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For a scary view of the future try this one for size

For your necessary edification.

Isn't this already happening by virtue of Echelon?

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Phil

yeah that kind of thing wouldnt fly here...

some things you might find interesting:

1953 -
Joint Army-Navy-CIA experiments are conducted in which tens of thousands of people in New York and San Francisco are exposed to the airborne germs Serratia marcescens and Bacillus glogigii.

1966 -
U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates.

it's a good thing we have laws here protecting us from the government. you know a guy died from the airborne germs spread in san francisco. when his son tried to sue the government, the judge informed him that he couldn't do it.

A sexier metal is Selenium. Runner up is Elerium-115

check out this link. It goes into various types of EMP bombs, device hardness, etc.

Try going to the same bank each time you work with your money and deal with human employees. That's what I do. They know me. I know them. There is no chance of an imposter, short of a disguise artist, ripping me off.

The problem is that people are being encouraged by the banks and corporate bodies to engage in impersonal money practices which ARE prone to identity theft, and in which Bio-metrics would be useful. As you pointed out yourself, the problem is only when such systems are abused.

And THE problem is that those who are trying to implement identity tracking systems will almost certainly perpetuate abuse. They cannot be trusted.

I have cut & pasted a short response made to somebody else above which I think addresses some of your conceptions. . .

Down at my local business supplies warehouse outlet, you can already buy thumb print readers designed to lock all but 'favored users' out of computers or whatever.)

For those of you who don't see why this is bad, consider how much fun it would be to have yourself locked out of the economy for having dissident political views. --Or for failing to pay a traffic ticket. You only get to buy bread if you heartily agree that Arabs are evil. Mm. Fun!

Being able to accurately trace & identify any individual, (National I.D. cards), and the on-going movement towards a virtual money society, (debit & credit cards: note the effects of the Euro introduction, where citizens are being strongly encouraged by authorities to avoid 'confusion' with the new cash by relying only on plastic money), will make it MUCH easier to control the populace.

Anybody who thinks that any aspect of this is a good thing should remove from their ears and eyes the filters which only allow in the 'Very Reasonable Sounding' B.S. arguments as supplied by the U.S. propaganda departments, and take a good, hard look around.

9/11 was almost certainly manufactured, and even if it wasn't, it is being exploited to the hilt. Turn off CNN, (propaganda), grow a spine, (ignore the accusations by the popular kids of 'tin-foil hatters'; Time to grow up, ignore the Gap wearing sheep and their desperate to be accepted /. counterparts, (Harsh, I know, but unfortunately quite true), and rely on yourself to form your own conclusions), --And get down to doing some critical research.

If you are critical enough, (of words from BOTH sides of the fence; Very important), intelligent enough, -and if you work for long enough to get a solid feel for all the available information, then you will begin to see another reality rise from the fog.

Otherwise, you might as well just accept a nice ear-tag.

Remember: Sheep get tagged & numbered. They also get fleeced. And eaten.

Some links to get started:

A brief, but solid essay on the nature & mechanics of propaganda, with examples from the U.S. during WWI to present. A 7 minute read, approx.

An article about Gulf War propaganda, outlining how the 'Babies Torn from Incubators by Iraqi Soldiers' was manufactured and used by Bush to instill war fever. 2 minute read.

Article on how IBM made a fortune during WWII by covertly supplying Hitler with the punch card technology used to process Jews for termination -Throws an interesting light upon national identification tracking systems.
7 minute read including excerpt.

Significant anomalies regarding the flight lists of the planes used in the terror attacks. 5 minute read, (10, including searches of the passenger lists to verify the writer's sources)

Empty but maintained concentration camps in the U.S. This link is half sensationalist, alarmist B.S.. Read with caution. Although it is worth noting that FEMA and the Rex 80 programs are real; the laws can be found on-line. Food for thought.

Okay. That's enough for now. Read. Think. And I hope nobody bothers me with dip-shit flames unless you've actually read this stuff. Flames are usually a waste of time with me, but if you have legit questions or criticisms, I'm always happy to respond and/or update my own knowledge base. Growing and learning is fun!

Good luck.

-Fantastic Lad

Some links to get started:

A brief, but solid essay on the nature & mechanics of propaganda, with examples from the U.S. during WWI to present. A 7 minute read, approx.

An article about Gulf War propaganda, outlining how the 'Babies Torn from Incubators by Iraqi Soldiers' was manufactured and used by Bush to instill war fever. 2 minute read.

Article on how IBM made a fortune during WWII by covertly supplying Hitler with the punch card technology used to process Jews for termination -Throws an interesting light upon national identification tracking systems.
7 minute read including excerpt.

Significant anomalies regarding the flight lists of the planes used in the terror attacks. 5 minute read, (10, including searches of the passenger lists to verify the writer's sources)

Empty but maintained concentration camps in the U.S. This link is half sensationalist, alarmist B.S.. Read with caution. Although it is worth noting that FEMA and the Rex 80 programs are real; the laws can be found on-line. Food for thought.

Okay. That's enough for now. Read. Think. And don't waste my time with dip-shit flames unless you've actually read this stuff. Flames are usually a waste of time with me, but if you have legit questions or criticisms, I'm always happy to respond and/or update my own knowledge base. Growing and learning is fun!

Good luck.

-Fantastic Lad

Some links to get started:

A brief, but solid essay on the nature & mechanics of propaganda, with examples from the U.S. during WWI to present. A 7 minute read, approx.

An article about Gulf War propaganda, outlining how the 'Babies Torn from Incubators by Iraqi Soldiers' was manufactured and used by Bush to instill war fever. 2 minute read.

Article on how IBM made a fortune during WWII by covertly supplying Hitler with the punch card technology used to process Jews for termination -Throws an interesting light upon national identification tracking systems.
7 minute read including excerpt.

Significant anomalies regarding the flight lists of the planes used in the terror attacks. 5 minute read, (10, including searches of the passenger lists to verify the writer's sources)

Empty but maintained concentration camps in the U.S. This link is half sensationalist, alarmist B.S.. Read with caution. Although it is worth noting that FEMA and the Rex 80 programs are real; the laws can be found on-line. Food for thought.

Okay. That's enough for now. Read. Think. And don't waste my time with dip-shit flames unless you've actually read this stuff. Flames are usually a waste of time with me, but if you have legit questions or criticisms, I'm always happy to respond and/or update my own knowledge base. Growing and learning is fun!

Good luck.

-Fantastic Lad

allegadly the Aurora can hit mach 10. for more info got to Aurora.

Here is a very interesting article on

ELECTROMAGNETIC BOMB - A WEAPON OF ELECTRONIC MASS DESTRUCTION

It's a very interesting read. Explains everything, with many pictures (;-))

cheers
mike

Here is a very interesting article on

ELECTROMAGNETIC BOMB - A WEAPON OF ELECTRONIC MASS DESTRUCTION

It's a very interesting read. Explains everything, with many pictures (;-))

cheers
mike