Domain: aliyun.com
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Comments · 8
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Re:Dear Andy Rubin,
I don't see "Android" at http://apps.aliyun.com/index.htm, just APK, which can be considered generic.
It's OK for Google to come up with "not Java", but it's not OK for Alibaba to come up with "not Android"?
Also, your first sentence is quite ironic. Let me fix it:
They are not experimenting, they are taking Java, making it not compatible with Java apps, and then advertising it as a form of Java. That is extremely harmful to the product and system image Sun has spent so long developing, and is basically stealing Sun's work
to compete with Sun.What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Poetic justice for Google destroying Sun.
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Re:When Microsoft did it, it was evil.
You seem to miss the part where Aliyun is chinese OS aimed purely at chinese market. They gain a lot from Android disappearing from China, and they don't lose anything.
Access to Google Play doesn't matter for them, for example. Looking at their appstore, it seems they've already got all popular applications there - pirated. Just quickly looking through the catalog I found 3 Angry Birds games - one from some chs2523, one from some yuhao886, and one from some kandee (who also developed Cut the Rope).
They claim "Android compatibility", but seems like - from Andy Rubin's claims - with introduced minor incompatibilities, just like MS did with Java.
They can drive out Android and have all chinese market for themself, still get sources (either from AOSP - or, can't exclude it knowing chinese practices - from partners like Acer) and still get apps copied^Wdeveloped by brand names like yuhao886, with added bonus of those apps being incompatible with official Android devices. Now who's filling MS's role in this case?
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Re:When Microsoft did it, it was evil.
You seem to miss the part where Aliyun is chinese OS aimed purely at chinese market. They gain a lot from Android disappearing from China, and they don't lose anything.
Access to Google Play doesn't matter for them, for example. Looking at their appstore, it seems they've already got all popular applications there - pirated. Just quickly looking through the catalog I found 3 Angry Birds games - one from some chs2523, one from some yuhao886, and one from some kandee (who also developed Cut the Rope).
They claim "Android compatibility", but seems like - from Andy Rubin's claims - with introduced minor incompatibilities, just like MS did with Java.
They can drive out Android and have all chinese market for themself, still get sources (either from AOSP - or, can't exclude it knowing chinese practices - from partners like Acer) and still get apps copied^Wdeveloped by brand names like yuhao886, with added bonus of those apps being incompatible with official Android devices. Now who's filling MS's role in this case?
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Re:When Microsoft did it, it was evil.
You seem to miss the part where Aliyun is chinese OS aimed purely at chinese market. They gain a lot from Android disappearing from China, and they don't lose anything.
Access to Google Play doesn't matter for them, for example. Looking at their appstore, it seems they've already got all popular applications there - pirated. Just quickly looking through the catalog I found 3 Angry Birds games - one from some chs2523, one from some yuhao886, and one from some kandee (who also developed Cut the Rope).
They claim "Android compatibility", but seems like - from Andy Rubin's claims - with introduced minor incompatibilities, just like MS did with Java.
They can drive out Android and have all chinese market for themself, still get sources (either from AOSP - or, can't exclude it knowing chinese practices - from partners like Acer) and still get apps copied^Wdeveloped by brand names like yuhao886, with added bonus of those apps being incompatible with official Android devices. Now who's filling MS's role in this case?
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Re:When Microsoft did it, it was evil.
You seem to miss the part where Aliyun is chinese OS aimed purely at chinese market. They gain a lot from Android disappearing from China, and they don't lose anything.
Access to Google Play doesn't matter for them, for example. Looking at their appstore, it seems they've already got all popular applications there - pirated. Just quickly looking through the catalog I found 3 Angry Birds games - one from some chs2523, one from some yuhao886, and one from some kandee (who also developed Cut the Rope).
They claim "Android compatibility", but seems like - from Andy Rubin's claims - with introduced minor incompatibilities, just like MS did with Java.
They can drive out Android and have all chinese market for themself, still get sources (either from AOSP - or, can't exclude it knowing chinese practices - from partners like Acer) and still get apps copied^Wdeveloped by brand names like yuhao886, with added bonus of those apps being incompatible with official Android devices. Now who's filling MS's role in this case?
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Re:When Microsoft did it, it was evil.
Wikipedia describes the OS as open source. I tried to look it up, but my knowledge of any language other than English is virtually non-existent. You would need to ask a native speaker who owns the phone to tell for sure.
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Re:It's not part of the Android ecosystem yet
We were surprised to read Alibaba Group's chief strategy officer Zeng Ming's quote "We want to be the Android of China" when in fact the Aliyun OS incorporates the Android runtime and was apparently derived from Android.
Based on our analysis of the apps available at http://apps.aliyun.com/ the platform tries to, but does not succeed in being compatible.
At least their app market has all the popular apps already, like Rovio's Angry Birds. Oh, wait, it's not Rovio's, it's chs2523's.
I'd understand Google's unwillingness to share pre-release source of Android when it's likely to end up in Acer partner's source tree of completely different OS, but cutting them off altogether is too drastic.
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Re:It's not part of the Android ecosystem yet
We were surprised to read Alibaba Group's chief strategy officer Zeng Ming's quote "We want to be the Android of China" when in fact the Aliyun OS incorporates the Android runtime and was apparently derived from Android.
Based on our analysis of the apps available at http://apps.aliyun.com/ the platform tries to, but does not succeed in being compatible.
At least their app market has all the popular apps already, like Rovio's Angry Birds. Oh, wait, it's not Rovio's, it's chs2523's.
I'd understand Google's unwillingness to share pre-release source of Android when it's likely to end up in Acer partner's source tree of completely different OS, but cutting them off altogether is too drastic.