Domain: blacklivesmatter.com
Stories and comments across the archive that link to blacklivesmatter.com.
Comments · 7
-
Re:Black Lives Matter
I love how you invent a whole new narrative for BLM that appears to have little or nothing to do with what BLM is about.
"It centers those that have been marginalized within Black liberation movements. It is a tactic to (re)build the Black liberation movement." -- BLM
If you look up the Black Liberation Movement that BLM refers to, you will see that the Black Panther Party was a part of that movement, too.
-
Re: Black Lives Matter
BLM advocates nonviolence and loving engagement. When people associated with BLM have engaged in violence, the organization has denounced their actions.
Can you cite any white supremacist organization that has denounced the actions of James Fields in Charlottesville?
There are a lot of legitimate reasons to criticise BLM, but comparing them to Nazis is absurd.
-
Re:The Guardian goes full racist
Do you know what the rallying cry of official BLM protests usually is? They chant it at their meetings, too. It's all over Youtube.
They are the words of a woman on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorists list, with a $2M bounty on her head, a woman with such militant far-left views that Cuba offered her protection.
Don't believe me and too lazy to head on over to Youtube? Well this rallying cry is also given as an attributed quote at the very top of the Black Lives Matter "Get Involved" webpage, ostensibly in her own handwriting. You can poke around to get a list of what they say they believe... "a huge list of vague leftist stuff." The women who started BLM have kept the specifics of platform deliberately vague, to the point of delivering one of the stupidiest, most content-free TED speeches I've ever heard. But I tend to think the Assata Shakur admiration is relevant.
And if you disagree, well, just imagine for a moment that there was a far-right white nationalist who had murdered people, escaped and taken refuge in a foreign fascist country and was on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorists list with a $2M bounty on his head. Now imagine that the all of the alt-righters were regularly chanting his words at all their meetings and there was a written attributed quote of him, maybe even written in his own goddamn handwriting, at the top of Breitbart or whatever the most popular alt-right movement/website was.
Now imagine that 90%+ of the right wingers you talked to claimed that the alt-right had nothing to do with white nationalism.
The mainstream right at least has the good sense to officially denounce people who openly idolize KKK leaders. If Trump says something stupid, the mainstream right actually (at least sometimes) says so and denounces him! But the mainstream left has no qualms about rolling out the red carpet for the BLM founders and pretending that they are a single-issue organization, despite what their own website says.
The left's biggest weakness in the coming culture wars will be its unwillingness to introspect, thinking that getting angrier and louder is the answer. But centrists and independents do notice these things that the left refuses to notice about itself and for whatever reason, more and more of them are feeling safer on the right. Three of my female family members voted Trump. They all previously voted Obama. Twice.
Unthinking, delusional "Trump must be stopped at all costs!!!" solidarity might just end up bringing the whole thing crashing down and ensure that an entire generation is lost to right wing ideologues. Please, just... wake the fuck up. -
Re:The Guardian goes full racist
Do you know what the rallying cry of official BLM protests usually is? They chant it at their meetings, too. It's all over Youtube.
They are the words of a woman on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorists list, with a $2M bounty on her head, a woman with such militant far-left views that Cuba offered her protection.
Don't believe me and too lazy to head on over to Youtube? Well this rallying cry is also given as an attributed quote at the very top of the Black Lives Matter "Get Involved" webpage, ostensibly in her own handwriting. You can poke around to get a list of what they say they believe... "a huge list of vague leftist stuff." The women who started BLM have kept the specifics of platform deliberately vague, to the point of delivering one of the stupidiest, most content-free TED speeches I've ever heard. But I tend to think the Assata Shakur admiration is relevant.
And if you disagree, well, just imagine for a moment that there was a far-right white nationalist who had murdered people, escaped and taken refuge in a foreign fascist country and was on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorists list with a $2M bounty on his head. Now imagine that the all of the alt-righters were regularly chanting his words at all their meetings and there was a written attributed quote of him, maybe even written in his own goddamn handwriting, at the top of Breitbart or whatever the most popular alt-right movement/website was.
Now imagine that 90%+ of the right wingers you talked to claimed that the alt-right had nothing to do with white nationalism.
The mainstream right at least has the good sense to officially denounce people who openly idolize KKK leaders. If Trump says something stupid, the mainstream right actually (at least sometimes) says so and denounces him! But the mainstream left has no qualms about rolling out the red carpet for the BLM founders and pretending that they are a single-issue organization, despite what their own website says.
The left's biggest weakness in the coming culture wars will be its unwillingness to introspect, thinking that getting angrier and louder is the answer. But centrists and independents do notice these things that the left refuses to notice about itself and for whatever reason, more and more of them are feeling safer on the right. Three of my female family members voted Trump. They all previously voted Obama. Twice.
Unthinking, delusional "Trump must be stopped at all costs!!!" solidarity might just end up bringing the whole thing crashing down and ensure that an entire generation is lost to right wing ideologues. Please, just... wake the fuck up. -
Let's Play Six degrees of "You're a Nazi" !
And one of the primary inspirations for the Black Lives Matter movement is a cop killer and 'domestic terrorist' on the FBI's Most Wanted List, with a $2M reward on her head, according to the original founders and promoters of the hashtag and larger movement.
This isn't a conspiracy theory. A *attributed* quote from Assata Shakur is on their homepage and if you head over to Youtube, you can hear this very line being chanted in unison at dozens of different BLM protests. The women in question are widely considered to be the founders and coordinators of BLM and have given countless interviews and speeches on the subject, including one at TED (not even TEDx, but straight TED.)
But guess what? I don't assume that the majority of people who support Black Lives Matter are pro-terrorism. It's a tiny fraction. It's a tiny fraction that happens to be running the show, but a tiny fraction nonetheless.
And the same goes with the alt-right and actual racists and actual Nazis. Trash the founders all you want, but it's going to end very, very badly if the left continues to treat the entire movement and label as a monolith. -
Re:Poor Nazis
It's so hard being a Nazi now a days, for some reason everyone seems to think your a vile repugnant monster.
While the left openly make death threats, BLM supporters openly call for 'white genocide' and other supremacist movements like islam and zionism get a pass? They're all equally vile!
How is this comment currently rated +5 Insightful?
Let's be clear on this -- there is no moral equivalency between far-right hate speech and the political left. It's like claiming Gandhi's philosophy and Hitler's philosophy were one and the same. It's crap. These things are not equally vile. Black Lives Matter has not called for 'white genocide'. Go look at their website if you want to know what they're about, but stop putting false words in their mouths.
Trying to make the case that Black Lives Matter, or Muslims, or Jews are no different than the neo-Nazis, or the Ku Klux Klan or skinheads, is just crazy. It's complete nonsense. Or possibly just makes you a out-and-out liar. I'm not buying that kind of bullshit, and I imagine no one else believes it either.
-
Re:And most don't care
That's because it doesn't affect most people. Besides, in relative terms it isn't too bad. Yes, pervasive surveillance infringes people's rights[1], and (speculatively) a small number of people who haven't done anything wrong get hurt by that. But the US (and the rest of the 5 eyes) aren't China, or North Korea, or ISIS. They aren't actively killing or seriously repressing large numbers of their own people. All this stuff just doesn't impact on the life of Joe Ordinary, so he doesn't care.
Some people within the United States may disagree with you. Pot, meet Kettle. Kettle, meet Pot.