Domain: cnl.com
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Comments · 17
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Re:Death of eCommerce
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What you say is true,
but I'd argue that there is some price fixing. One of the products of price fixing is piracy.
Consider that new CD releases (at least in my city) have been slowly getting cheaper by about a buck every other year since 1999. A lot of new releases try to include something extra, like multimedia files, or a DVD. Why? They're trying to give value to a consumer that won't bat an eye at breaking the law. Offer value, and you can beat free.
Right now, what really strikes me as suspicious is that Canadian DVD prices (I'm Canadian) and US prices are numerically the same. I went to the US and thought I could get the Kubrick DVD box set -- but it was 199$ USD! This shocked me, as the same set was 199$ CDN back home. That (at the time) meant Canada had it for 100$ CDN/64$ USD cheaper. CNL, a Canadian DVD retailer, was the only place I found online that had prices comparable to the local ones, because all the other sites were in USD and thus 1.5x as expensive as buying locally.
Ask yourself why a DVD would have the same numerical MSRP when things like video games and music CDs have different MSRPs in our two respective countries. Ask yourself why CNL says they can't ship to the US. -
Re:I dislike the RIAA
I buy all my anime from CNL. The selection is huge, and though the base prices aren't that great, with my discount I often pay less in Canadian$ than the MSRP is in US$. The shipping is pretty cheap, and I don't get screwed on customs. (I've ended up paying 50% extra on stuff from the US - there's no way I'm buying from there again. I have had better luck with stuff from overseas.)
'Course, I make enough that I've spent aroud $100/week on anime since I graduated. It's a huge change from being a starving student... ^_^
I agree with point "b"... I just need to get cable or adsl so I can finish downloading a series before (it gets released over here/I die of old age). -
CNL
The best place I've found in Canada is the C&L Internet Club - they've got a great selection and I've found them to be very reliable and quick with delivery. Their warehouse is in Vancouver, which is open to the public. They also have a sale on until July 1st...
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It's even more easy than that.
In Canada, a DVD of a certain movie could be about 14.99$.
In the US, that same region 1 DVD is 14.99$.
However, Canadian dollars cost less than US dollars. This is why US people should import all DVDs from Canada and never pay for them in the US, because the MPAA is just trying to segment Canada/US (which, considering NAFTA, shouldn't happen) for greater profits.
This is also why any Canadians that do online shopping will be boned hard if they don't go to the ONE Canadian DVD site online that exists: cnl.com. They have great, Canadian prices and will ship titles to the US too. -
Re:DVD of pre-talkie movies could shut down DMCAYou made a very good point so I did a bit of digging.
Does anybody know if Criterion CSS-encrypt *all* of their discs?
They distribute the first disc in the following list of pre-1923 DVDs for sale at CNL (The links may ask you to login as guest):
- Nanook Of The North - released in 1922
- Affairs Of Anatol - released in 1921
- Nosferatu: Special Edition - released in 1922
- Oliver Twist - released in 1922
- Robin Hood - released in 1922
- Tess of the Storm Country - release in 1922
- Foolish Wives - released in 1922
- Destiny - released in 1921
Ok, it appears there's a lot more there than I thought there would be. The list of 1921 discs is longer than the 1922 list and I haven't even checked for older ones. I'll stop here, but I'll bet at least one of those discs are CSS encrypted.
It would be interesting to know for sure, though. -
Re:DVD of pre-talkie movies could shut down DMCAYou made a very good point so I did a bit of digging.
Does anybody know if Criterion CSS-encrypt *all* of their discs?
They distribute the first disc in the following list of pre-1923 DVDs for sale at CNL (The links may ask you to login as guest):
- Nanook Of The North - released in 1922
- Affairs Of Anatol - released in 1921
- Nosferatu: Special Edition - released in 1922
- Oliver Twist - released in 1922
- Robin Hood - released in 1922
- Tess of the Storm Country - release in 1922
- Foolish Wives - released in 1922
- Destiny - released in 1921
Ok, it appears there's a lot more there than I thought there would be. The list of 1921 discs is longer than the 1922 list and I haven't even checked for older ones. I'll stop here, but I'll bet at least one of those discs are CSS encrypted.
It would be interesting to know for sure, though. -
Re:DVD of pre-talkie movies could shut down DMCAYou made a very good point so I did a bit of digging.
Does anybody know if Criterion CSS-encrypt *all* of their discs?
They distribute the first disc in the following list of pre-1923 DVDs for sale at CNL (The links may ask you to login as guest):
- Nanook Of The North - released in 1922
- Affairs Of Anatol - released in 1921
- Nosferatu: Special Edition - released in 1922
- Oliver Twist - released in 1922
- Robin Hood - released in 1922
- Tess of the Storm Country - release in 1922
- Foolish Wives - released in 1922
- Destiny - released in 1921
Ok, it appears there's a lot more there than I thought there would be. The list of 1921 discs is longer than the 1922 list and I haven't even checked for older ones. I'll stop here, but I'll bet at least one of those discs are CSS encrypted.
It would be interesting to know for sure, though. -
Re:DVD of pre-talkie movies could shut down DMCAYou made a very good point so I did a bit of digging.
Does anybody know if Criterion CSS-encrypt *all* of their discs?
They distribute the first disc in the following list of pre-1923 DVDs for sale at CNL (The links may ask you to login as guest):
- Nanook Of The North - released in 1922
- Affairs Of Anatol - released in 1921
- Nosferatu: Special Edition - released in 1922
- Oliver Twist - released in 1922
- Robin Hood - released in 1922
- Tess of the Storm Country - release in 1922
- Foolish Wives - released in 1922
- Destiny - released in 1921
Ok, it appears there's a lot more there than I thought there would be. The list of 1921 discs is longer than the 1922 list and I haven't even checked for older ones. I'll stop here, but I'll bet at least one of those discs are CSS encrypted.
It would be interesting to know for sure, though. -
Re:DVD of pre-talkie movies could shut down DMCAYou made a very good point so I did a bit of digging.
Does anybody know if Criterion CSS-encrypt *all* of their discs?
They distribute the first disc in the following list of pre-1923 DVDs for sale at CNL (The links may ask you to login as guest):
- Nanook Of The North - released in 1922
- Affairs Of Anatol - released in 1921
- Nosferatu: Special Edition - released in 1922
- Oliver Twist - released in 1922
- Robin Hood - released in 1922
- Tess of the Storm Country - release in 1922
- Foolish Wives - released in 1922
- Destiny - released in 1921
Ok, it appears there's a lot more there than I thought there would be. The list of 1921 discs is longer than the 1922 list and I haven't even checked for older ones. I'll stop here, but I'll bet at least one of those discs are CSS encrypted.
It would be interesting to know for sure, though. -
Re:DVD of pre-talkie movies could shut down DMCAYou made a very good point so I did a bit of digging.
Does anybody know if Criterion CSS-encrypt *all* of their discs?
They distribute the first disc in the following list of pre-1923 DVDs for sale at CNL (The links may ask you to login as guest):
- Nanook Of The North - released in 1922
- Affairs Of Anatol - released in 1921
- Nosferatu: Special Edition - released in 1922
- Oliver Twist - released in 1922
- Robin Hood - released in 1922
- Tess of the Storm Country - release in 1922
- Foolish Wives - released in 1922
- Destiny - released in 1921
Ok, it appears there's a lot more there than I thought there would be. The list of 1921 discs is longer than the 1922 list and I haven't even checked for older ones. I'll stop here, but I'll bet at least one of those discs are CSS encrypted.
It would be interesting to know for sure, though. -
Re:DVD of pre-talkie movies could shut down DMCAYou made a very good point so I did a bit of digging.
Does anybody know if Criterion CSS-encrypt *all* of their discs?
They distribute the first disc in the following list of pre-1923 DVDs for sale at CNL (The links may ask you to login as guest):
- Nanook Of The North - released in 1922
- Affairs Of Anatol - released in 1921
- Nosferatu: Special Edition - released in 1922
- Oliver Twist - released in 1922
- Robin Hood - released in 1922
- Tess of the Storm Country - release in 1922
- Foolish Wives - released in 1922
- Destiny - released in 1921
Ok, it appears there's a lot more there than I thought there would be. The list of 1921 discs is longer than the 1922 list and I haven't even checked for older ones. I'll stop here, but I'll bet at least one of those discs are CSS encrypted.
It would be interesting to know for sure, though. -
Re:DVD of pre-talkie movies could shut down DMCAYou made a very good point so I did a bit of digging.
Does anybody know if Criterion CSS-encrypt *all* of their discs?
They distribute the first disc in the following list of pre-1923 DVDs for sale at CNL (The links may ask you to login as guest):
- Nanook Of The North - released in 1922
- Affairs Of Anatol - released in 1921
- Nosferatu: Special Edition - released in 1922
- Oliver Twist - released in 1922
- Robin Hood - released in 1922
- Tess of the Storm Country - release in 1922
- Foolish Wives - released in 1922
- Destiny - released in 1921
Ok, it appears there's a lot more there than I thought there would be. The list of 1921 discs is longer than the 1922 list and I haven't even checked for older ones. I'll stop here, but I'll bet at least one of those discs are CSS encrypted.
It would be interesting to know for sure, though. -
Re:DVD of pre-talkie movies could shut down DMCAYou made a very good point so I did a bit of digging.
Does anybody know if Criterion CSS-encrypt *all* of their discs?
They distribute the first disc in the following list of pre-1923 DVDs for sale at CNL (The links may ask you to login as guest):
- Nanook Of The North - released in 1922
- Affairs Of Anatol - released in 1921
- Nosferatu: Special Edition - released in 1922
- Oliver Twist - released in 1922
- Robin Hood - released in 1922
- Tess of the Storm Country - release in 1922
- Foolish Wives - released in 1922
- Destiny - released in 1921
Ok, it appears there's a lot more there than I thought there would be. The list of 1921 discs is longer than the 1922 list and I haven't even checked for older ones. I'll stop here, but I'll bet at least one of those discs are CSS encrypted.
It would be interesting to know for sure, though. -
Re:Actual forward thinking from MPAA members?
None of the old films are digitised.
I have Metropolis on DVD right in front of me. I'd consider that old, especially considering it's not even a 'talkie'.
You'd be surprised at what you can find in digital form. I live in Canada and I've found that http://www.cnl.com has a lot of old stuff that you won't find in your local Future Shop (even though I found Metropolis there).
However, the service would have to get popular before you'll see old movies trickle in but the infrastructure, even though it requires big-ass servers is still cheaper than pressing DVDs. -
Suggested Canadian based online stores
I've gotten fed up buying my DVD's from Express.com in the US, who, while being cheap, tend to take a good 2 weeks to get to Edmonton because of customs holdups (I swear I'm on the customs hit list. They inspect EVERY package sent to me...) so I've found all kinds of worthwhile online stores based out of Canada. Thats a good thing for two reasons
... one, you avoid duty and Canada Post's $5 "handling fee", and two, Canada Post XPress Post is _really_ cheap and fast within Canada. 2-3 days for a couple of bucks.
So, for DVD's, I'll reccomend www.cnl.com based out of Vancouver. I've only been dealing with them for about 2 weeks now but I've been very happy, and they come highly reccomended to me. Consider, around midnight on a Wednesday I ordered 5 DVD's. Late Thursday I got a shipping confirmation, and I had the DVD's in my hands on Friday afternoon. All for $8 cdn shipping. Prices are quite reasonable, only a little bit more than buying from Express once you factor in shipping and customs fees, plus you get 'em in 2 days (or less), not 2 weeks.
For CD's, I usually buy from Chapters Online, but the trick with Chapters is to only buy items that are listed as "shipping in 24 hours". If it says anything else, especially the dreaded "1-2 weeks", expect to be waiting 1-2 months, if you get it at all. Other options are HMV who's prices seem okay. I preordered Moby's new CD from them because I came across a $5 coupon .. hasn't shipped yet so I can't comment on service. Finally, A&B Sound, who despite the spartan website, are reported to have nice prices.
For books, again, Chapters Online is your best bet. Really good prices, especially with a Chapters One Card (you pay a $15 yearly fee and get 10% off everything, along with $5 in coupons for every $100 you spend). But again, only order if its in stock (shipping in 24 hours), otherwise its a real crap shoot as to when you'll get it.
For computer hardware, the best is easily Onvia. Great prices, and even better free shipping. Nothing better than buying a 21" monitor at a decent price and not having to pay for shipping. Service is great, shipping is fast (they courier it, so 2-3 days or so), and prices are competitive. Fairly often they have $25 and $50 off coupons, too. I've also done a fair bit of shopping from NCIX, based out of Vancouver. Their prices range from really good, to comparable to my local prices, to a bit high, but they're worth checking out. I got a killer deal on my IBM Deskstar 7200rpm 30 gig from them a while back, and got my Pioneer 10x DVD player from them last year when virtually no stores anywhere in North America were selling them. I'll definately continue dealing with both.
Someone forwarded www.goldfishlegs.com to me the other day, and they've got reviews of Canadian E-Tailers, along with coupons and other goodies. I didn't agree with some of their reviews, but it seems like a useful site to keep bookmarked.
In general, my dealings with various Canadian online stores have been positive. Through harsh experience I've learned how to deal with Chapters (thankfully they're very responsive to e-mails), and I've only been ripped off once (www.stupidcomputers.com, they closed up shop and dissappeared, taking a lot of people's money with them. VISA refunded my money, thankfully). In general I'm willing to pay the little bit extra to buy from Canadian stores (support the economy _and_ get it in less than 2 weeks), except for extreme price differences and/or unavailability in Canada.
Hope this helps =) -
No trouble for me
I ordered a DVD from CNL on the 21st and received it yesterday morning without a hitch. Pretty good considering I'm at the extreme other end of Canada. What makes that interesting was the fact that I opted for Canada Post over UPS. Not only was it much cheaper, but UPS doesn't actually operate here and the minimum time I received a UPS package was about a week. I wouldn't have received it in time. Maximum time? A month. Ridiculous, even the USPS is much better than that.
I also made an order from Digi-Key which came in 3 days, despite the fact that I live in Canada. Probably had something to do with the fact that they let me use Purolator.
As an aside, with many people having DVD players nowadays, Christmas shopping has never been easier. I got three today: Pink Floyd's The Wall (awesome DVD, very well put together with tons of extra features), Jimi Hendrix: Live at Woodstock, and South Park.
Needless to say, I'm happy. I'm inviting some friends over tonight to watch The Wall (twice, the second time around with commentary by Waters and Scarfe) and drink a lot of booze.