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also how about ONE decent Linux X windows email client that doesnt suck and require gnome or KDE?

GNUmail? It requires GNUstep. But hey, you only forbade GNOME and KDE. :-)

Well you're right in many ways about the speed of the project, but have you tried it recently ? Its been gaining a lot of momentum the last year or so and a few userspace apps are getting quite impressive, especially GNUMail.app

However, I wasn't really trying to suggest that it was a feature match with Cocoa (or even OpenSTEP), I implied as much in my comment when I mentioned waiting for them to catch up. My point was purely in response to a comment saying that Objective-C the language would restrict your target platform. Forgetting OSX and OpenSTEP for a second if you just want to code stuff in Objective-C - gcc and the GNUStep non-gui classes are here ,useful and portable today.