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Re:I Couldn't Agree More
Dataconnections do exactly that as part of their preliminary six hours of testing. They give you a definition of a vaguely Fortran like language and then ask you to step through a hundred line program on paper and write down the final result. And, no, I didn't get the job.
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Re:Netmeeting and phone conferencing
NetMeeting, SunForum, SGIMeeting and HP Visualize Conference are all based on DC-Share from Data Connection. Therefore it's not surprising that they interoperate
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Re:Netmeeting and phone conferencing
NetMeeting, SunForum, SGIMeeting and HP Visualize Conference are all based on DC-Share from Data Connection. Therefore it's not surprising that they interoperate
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Re:I was in the final for the UK version of this.
Oh yeah, and one thing I forgot to mention - we got a load of gear from Data Connection, the sponsors of the year (not, alas, Lionhead!).
I still use the mousemat to this day . . . and the towel, although it's one of the thinnest I've ever seen. :-) -
Re:meh...Actually all of the effected Cisco products are in fact services that run on Windows. I know that this fact was a big concern among quite a few engineers at Cisco that wanted to port CallManager to L/Unix so that OS vulnerabilities wouldn't affect the stability of a product that they were aiming at Enterprise customers. Of course management went and did the exact opposite by tying the multimedia capabilities of CCM to an Exchange backend =(
Well, it's obvious you've looked at the Cisco IP Telephony products, but don't use them day to day:- Cisco CallManager has nothing to do with Microsoft Exchange, directly
- It has recently been stated by Cisco to their PArtners that CallManager 5.0 will be offered on a Linux-based "appliance" (this is quite a ways off, as CCM 4.0 will not be out of controlled release until the start of 2HCY2004)
- Rumour has it that CallManager/Windows will eventually disappear in favor of a Linux-based "appliance"
- CallManager relies on two other pieces: an LDAP server (CCM ships with DC-Directory from Data Connection and MS SQL 2000. Obviously, there are numerous Linux-based options for each (DC claims to have a Linux port of DC-Directory, and there are numerous database options for Linux) but at this time I am unsure which direction they are heading on this
- When you reference MS Exchange, you are thinking of the Unified Messaging & Voicemail product Cisco Unity, which has traditionally used MS Exchange as it's message store for voice messages
- There was no management decision to drive this product towards MS Exchange; it was developed by Active Voice from the ground up to be a Unified Messaging platform, and they chose the most popular platform to integrate with
- Cisco now offers a Cisco Unity for Lotus Domino which I have two customers running. Unity has to have heavy knowledge of it's Partner Message Store so it's not trivial to add support for new backends. I've heard they are planning a Linux-based appliance for this as well, but don't know one way or the other.
- Cisco IPCC Express product has already been ported to Linux, as Cisco Unity Express actually is not Unity at all, but a very customized IPCC Express script running on an embedded Linux platform (no, it is NOT IOS; you're thinking of CallManager Express, formerly known at ITS, which I have referenced on Slashdot previously
- This leaves us with a few other products in the AVVID portfolio still on Windows. Coming to mind is Cisco Emergency Responder, Cisco Personal Assistant, IPCC Enterprise, and Cisco Conference Connection (OEM'd; and Cisco just bought a company which offers a similar product with 20x the features)
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So, yes, Cisco is very married to Windows right now. However, this is actively changing. And additionally, there was no Cisco conspiracy to develop these products for Windows: CallManager (which came from Selsius) was already running on Windows NT 4.0, and Unity (which as I said came from
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Re:meh...Actually all of the effected Cisco products are in fact services that run on Windows. I know that this fact was a big concern among quite a few engineers at Cisco that wanted to port CallManager to L/Unix so that OS vulnerabilities wouldn't affect the stability of a product that they were aiming at Enterprise customers. Of course management went and did the exact opposite by tying the multimedia capabilities of CCM to an Exchange backend =(
Well, it's obvious you've looked at the Cisco IP Telephony products, but don't use them day to day:- Cisco CallManager has nothing to do with Microsoft Exchange, directly
- It has recently been stated by Cisco to their PArtners that CallManager 5.0 will be offered on a Linux-based "appliance" (this is quite a ways off, as CCM 4.0 will not be out of controlled release until the start of 2HCY2004)
- Rumour has it that CallManager/Windows will eventually disappear in favor of a Linux-based "appliance"
- CallManager relies on two other pieces: an LDAP server (CCM ships with DC-Directory from Data Connection and MS SQL 2000. Obviously, there are numerous Linux-based options for each (DC claims to have a Linux port of DC-Directory, and there are numerous database options for Linux) but at this time I am unsure which direction they are heading on this
- When you reference MS Exchange, you are thinking of the Unified Messaging & Voicemail product Cisco Unity, which has traditionally used MS Exchange as it's message store for voice messages
- There was no management decision to drive this product towards MS Exchange; it was developed by Active Voice from the ground up to be a Unified Messaging platform, and they chose the most popular platform to integrate with
- Cisco now offers a Cisco Unity for Lotus Domino which I have two customers running. Unity has to have heavy knowledge of it's Partner Message Store so it's not trivial to add support for new backends. I've heard they are planning a Linux-based appliance for this as well, but don't know one way or the other.
- Cisco IPCC Express product has already been ported to Linux, as Cisco Unity Express actually is not Unity at all, but a very customized IPCC Express script running on an embedded Linux platform (no, it is NOT IOS; you're thinking of CallManager Express, formerly known at ITS, which I have referenced on Slashdot previously
- This leaves us with a few other products in the AVVID portfolio still on Windows. Coming to mind is Cisco Emergency Responder, Cisco Personal Assistant, IPCC Enterprise, and Cisco Conference Connection (OEM'd; and Cisco just bought a company which offers a similar product with 20x the features)
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So, yes, Cisco is very married to Windows right now. However, this is actively changing. And additionally, there was no Cisco conspiracy to develop these products for Windows: CallManager (which came from Selsius) was already running on Windows NT 4.0, and Unity (which as I said came from
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Yes, there is. But may be tough to buy.
NetMeeting can interoperate with any H.323 and T.120 compliant conferencing system. The H.323 part--the video and audio conferencing--is available under Linux, with apps like GnomeMeeting and the OpenH323 Project's foundational work.
But there's no free T.120 client for Linux. T.120 is the whiteboarding and application sharing part of the protocol.
DataConnection is the company that did the core work for both NetMeeting and Sun's SunForum, which is a feature-for-feature NetMeeting-alike for Solaris. Their generic name for the product is DC-Share.
Last year they ported the product to Linux, and also have a Java version--with, yes, app sharing--but they don't do direct sales.. just OEM and licensing deals. Contact them and see if anyone is selling a Linux client based on their software.