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Re:This is .NET My Services, not all of .NET
In fact, they are creating something:
It's a decentralized system but with the same functionality as
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privacy
You know what really really makes me mad? The fact that the whole fucking world is talking crap about privacy, people dump shit on the government for taking their privacy, security cameras invade privacy and what else the "people" talk about. And under there noses is a company (let's call them Microsoft) that sells them an OS that they'll install, presents them with a nice dialog and asks if the user wants to create a passport.
PEOPLE WILL create those things... and people WILL use them and in a short while there is a company that has your Creditcard number, expiration date, all your favorite files, knows your surfing habits, knows who your friends are, knows what you like to buy, can present you with "special offers"
I've been preacing this ever since I heard about the passport thing, and passport is pretty old now.... PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR AND DON'T WANT TO KNOW as long as they can get their daily dose of minesweeper....
And we, the geeks, have seen this coming for quite some time now, but (as always with microsoft) by the time the people know what hit them, it's too late to turn back, all e-commerse sites will be
The world makes me sick, and most of all these ignorant people that don't seem to care about this kind of privacy.
But what can we do? Well since I hope there are some more talented writers than myself here, write a column for your (local) newspaper... convince people... THIS IS IMPORTANT
and for all the techies: check out
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Re:Beautiful!You ask what Open Source has to offer in the web services arena. JBoss is not the only one (though it is the best, IMHO).
Check out JOnAS, which serves as the core for Enhydra. Both are functional, real-world application servers.
Check out Exolab, consisting of OpenEJB, OpenJMS, OpenORB, and more. Again, this is another open-source application server.
For web services, check out Apache SOAP. The wonderful folks at IBM have gifted the open source community with a SOAP/WSDL/UDDI implementation. There was some talk a while back about JBoss integrating Apache SOAP into its offerings, although the mailing list now causes me to doubt this.
Of course, I'm taking Mono and dotGNU.
What does all this add up to? It looks to me that Mono and dotGNU provide migration paths for existing MS customers. J2EE provides a software scalability that is not possible with Microsoft application servers. Between Sun, SGI, and IBM, the MS/Intel hegemony don't stand a chance with respect to hardware scalability. And with JBoss, Microsoft can't compete on price. It seems to me that the Unix camp will do quite well with this whole web services thing.
That said, it's not like one side will win while the other side loses. No matter what happens, MS will have a sizable camp of die-hard devotees. Likewise with the Unix camp. Somewhere in between, web services will support mixed solutions. Throw in non-MS implementations of the CRE, and the current quality of Java under Windows (it's still better than Linux...and, yes, I have tried the IBM VM), and we've got a situation where the underlying platform is really not that important. Finally, I'll get to focus on what I do best (programming), while avoiding all the religious hype surronding MS vs. Unix.
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Re:Right on!Sure, right now Mono is only the
Here's a passport equivalent under development: dotgnu.
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Why does nearly everybody seem to miss this?The Mono project is not about implementing passport or hailstorm.
If you want one of those, take a look at dotgnu, but even there the strategy is to be a REPLACEMENT, not a plug compatible Microsoft clone.
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dotGNUUnless some entrepreneur creates a company to kill off Passport with a cheaper, better service, Mono will be a covenant with death.
Why doesn't he mention the dotGNU project, which is doing exactly that?
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OK, I read the whole thing and...PLEASE DON'T GET A PASSPORT FOR ANY REASON
the first thing that disturbs me is the Kids passport, I understand wanting to verify an adult through a credit card, but creating a passport account to do so isn't right, there's a lack of choice there. Furthermore, "participating websites" don't have to respect the same privacy policy as the main passport site (which by itself isn't so great) so I setup a kids passport (keep in mind MY KID) and then they go to nickjr.com, and Nick decides they like to share all the data with anyone who pays enough and "leavehomewhileyoustilknoweveything.com" decides to try to turn my kids against me through mail solicitations. Of course, when you have kids you think of them first.
the second thing I don't like is the internet access click through I mean, I do ISP tech support and a BIG part of that are calls from users who have reformatted due to a virus or system problem wanting to get back online. Currently, many who have an OEM version of windows after rebooting and being pingable from where I sit (cable modems with DHCP that get a connection after reboot), upon clicking the "big blue E" on the desktop to test their connection will be prompted to sign up for MSN(or dellnet or whoever the OEM partners with) to get online, often the only way around this is to cancel, go to windows control panel, open internet options and go to connections tab, and run "setup" to get the regular internet connection wizzard. Often times this also pitches internet acces through another vendor (and always offers an option to sign up with MSN for dialup), and even then there are times when the user isn't offered an option to use their already pingable LAN connection. Keep in mind that the whole time I'm "keeping a pulse" on my customers connection watching packets come back once per second. I ask myself, if the TCPIP knows to respond to a ping and therefore sees the connection through the cable modem already present, why doesn't Internet explorer follow this active connection? It sounds to me like the Win XP ups the ante by telling users some things won't work unless they get a passport. Will users not be able to run windows update without a passport? If so, they will have to not apply patches unless they submit to MS with their personla data. Wasn't that why the Code red worm spread so fast, unpatched servers? What about the next buffer overrun in outlook express, live with it unless you submit your data to MS.
The Linux user in me feels real comfy, I know that I could do nothing and still have full control in my system. Furthermore, I know that DotGNU will provide a similar service to passport and hailstorm apps although I may never need them. HOWEVER, the day I get real pissed is when I go to buy "Kernal Internals, Hown to extend Linux" (fictional book title) from BUY.com or BarnewsandNoble.com and I'm required to submit my passport, because I'm not going to have one.
PLEASE DON'T GET A PASSPORT FOR ANY REASON because it will propagate to online vendors and they may well just go ahead and go passport only if it MS can tell them"we now have 95% of internet users with passports, you'd be foolish not to go passport only, especially with our passport wizzard in FronT pAge XP!!!"
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Why not DotGNU, Dave ?
Are you listening to me, Dave ?
Are you, Dave ?
DotGNU.org as a decentralized id and all the web services on crapNET (tm) done the GNU way -
Where is dotGNU in this?
I haven't seen any mention of dotGNU in any of this talk about
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