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Re:Take a realistic approach
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Re:GoodIt's great for small places, but not city wide.
Tell that to WA Freenet.
The basic idea of offering Internet access as a public service is sound. The problem is that cities haven't thought of the Internet as a form of public infrastructure that--like subway lines, sewers, or roads--must be paid for. Instead, cities have labored under the illusion that, somehow, everything could be built easily and for free by private parties. -
Re:wirelessThe problem is...
Those are not the real barriers to adoption of freenets in the real world. If you look at projects like WA Freenet http://www.e3.com.au/, you can see the infrastructure here is being built by a handful of enthusiasts. If there was a coordinated effort by local governments, the network would be complete by now.
The key problem is that such a network, allowing things like VOIP and video streaming, would cut the legs out from under existing telcos and media groups. It would make a decentralised network which is unaccountable and uncontrollable (by the government). In Australia, common carrier laws are being used to stop the freenets from connecting to the bigger internet. If a workaround is found for that, another barrier will be put in place.
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Community networksWhat I'd like to see is peer-to-peer community networks which use each device as a node. That would free us from this centralised manipulation of the market.
There are already fairly successful attempts to provide this with existing wifi hardware - http://www.e3.com.au/, for example. How hard would it be to design devices that would set themselves up in a self-managed mesh network which requires no centre?
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Re:AOL and others should take heed
At no point will it be "free" as in beer.
Perhaps not in the US, but over here in Western Australia, we've been building a free-as-in-beer network since the early days of wireless networking. http://www.e3.com.au/ -
been done.been done...
By a buncha west australians...
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Forum for continuing discussion and action
For any Perth people that want to get involved, there's now a forum at www.e3.com.au (a website about Perth's free/community wireless network). A big thanks to Jason at that site. I've also made a tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/5xy2 for signatures, etc.
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Slashdotted, here's what I could recover
posted by Jason Jordan on Sunday August 18 2002 @ 05:14AM WST
ProjectsWe did it! It's gotta be a first! We don't need no car to car WLAN's - we go WarDriving at 250km/h in an aircraft... 8-)
Cap'n Richard, Will (Yagi), Peterh & me took "IGI" - a Grumman Tiger 4 seat aircraft up to 1500ft and flew around Perth picking up AP's with Netstumbler running on an Handheld Ipaq/Cantenna and Kismet on a Toshiba Tecra 9000 with built-in Antenna.
We stopped at Rotto first for a quick run to the Bakery, but then it was on. We got 92 AP's with Kismet... and 95 with NetStumbler.
You can check out the photos by clicking the link below. There is also an image generated by Cap'n Richard to demonstrate the track we took around Perth available on the Rogues site.
You can check out the Kismet & NetStumbler logs for yourself:- Kismet Network Log
- Kismet Network XML Log
- Kismet Network CSV Log
- NetStumbler Log (Binary)
- NetStumbler Summary Log
- NetStumbler Full Log
- NetStumbler wiscan Log
Note: The Kismet dump file is not included for security reasons. After reviewing it, I found IRC conversations, emails and clear netbios traffic for known local Perth users. I will follow up with them to "improve" their security.
Speaking of security... I wonder how ethical it would be to code up a script that maps to printers available on open/insecure WLAN netbios networks and print out "Your Wireless Network is insecure, Please fix it!"?
I know what the law says so I'd never do it... but it would give the sysadmins pause wouldn't it
... 8-)Reposted on Sunday August 18 2002 @ 05:14AM WST
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Slashdotted, here's what I could recover
posted by Jason Jordan on Sunday August 18 2002 @ 05:14AM WST
ProjectsWe did it! It's gotta be a first! We don't need no car to car WLAN's - we go WarDriving at 250km/h in an aircraft... 8-)
Cap'n Richard, Will (Yagi), Peterh & me took "IGI" - a Grumman Tiger 4 seat aircraft up to 1500ft and flew around Perth picking up AP's with Netstumbler running on an Handheld Ipaq/Cantenna and Kismet on a Toshiba Tecra 9000 with built-in Antenna.
We stopped at Rotto first for a quick run to the Bakery, but then it was on. We got 92 AP's with Kismet... and 95 with NetStumbler.
You can check out the photos by clicking the link below. There is also an image generated by Cap'n Richard to demonstrate the track we took around Perth available on the Rogues site.
You can check out the Kismet & NetStumbler logs for yourself:- Kismet Network Log
- Kismet Network XML Log
- Kismet Network CSV Log
- NetStumbler Log (Binary)
- NetStumbler Summary Log
- NetStumbler Full Log
- NetStumbler wiscan Log
Note: The Kismet dump file is not included for security reasons. After reviewing it, I found IRC conversations, emails and clear netbios traffic for known local Perth users. I will follow up with them to "improve" their security.
Speaking of security... I wonder how ethical it would be to code up a script that maps to printers available on open/insecure WLAN netbios networks and print out "Your Wireless Network is insecure, Please fix it!"?
I know what the law says so I'd never do it... but it would give the sysadmins pause wouldn't it
... 8-)Reposted on Sunday August 18 2002 @ 05:14AM WST
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Slashdotted, here's what I could recover
posted by Jason Jordan on Sunday August 18 2002 @ 05:14AM WST
ProjectsWe did it! It's gotta be a first! We don't need no car to car WLAN's - we go WarDriving at 250km/h in an aircraft... 8-)
Cap'n Richard, Will (Yagi), Peterh & me took "IGI" - a Grumman Tiger 4 seat aircraft up to 1500ft and flew around Perth picking up AP's with Netstumbler running on an Handheld Ipaq/Cantenna and Kismet on a Toshiba Tecra 9000 with built-in Antenna.
We stopped at Rotto first for a quick run to the Bakery, but then it was on. We got 92 AP's with Kismet... and 95 with NetStumbler.
You can check out the photos by clicking the link below. There is also an image generated by Cap'n Richard to demonstrate the track we took around Perth available on the Rogues site.
You can check out the Kismet & NetStumbler logs for yourself:- Kismet Network Log
- Kismet Network XML Log
- Kismet Network CSV Log
- NetStumbler Log (Binary)
- NetStumbler Summary Log
- NetStumbler Full Log
- NetStumbler wiscan Log
Note: The Kismet dump file is not included for security reasons. After reviewing it, I found IRC conversations, emails and clear netbios traffic for known local Perth users. I will follow up with them to "improve" their security.
Speaking of security... I wonder how ethical it would be to code up a script that maps to printers available on open/insecure WLAN netbios networks and print out "Your Wireless Network is insecure, Please fix it!"?
I know what the law says so I'd never do it... but it would give the sysadmins pause wouldn't it
... 8-)Reposted on Sunday August 18 2002 @ 05:14AM WST
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Slashdotted, here's what I could recover
posted by Jason Jordan on Sunday August 18 2002 @ 05:14AM WST
ProjectsWe did it! It's gotta be a first! We don't need no car to car WLAN's - we go WarDriving at 250km/h in an aircraft... 8-)
Cap'n Richard, Will (Yagi), Peterh & me took "IGI" - a Grumman Tiger 4 seat aircraft up to 1500ft and flew around Perth picking up AP's with Netstumbler running on an Handheld Ipaq/Cantenna and Kismet on a Toshiba Tecra 9000 with built-in Antenna.
We stopped at Rotto first for a quick run to the Bakery, but then it was on. We got 92 AP's with Kismet... and 95 with NetStumbler.
You can check out the photos by clicking the link below. There is also an image generated by Cap'n Richard to demonstrate the track we took around Perth available on the Rogues site.
You can check out the Kismet & NetStumbler logs for yourself:- Kismet Network Log
- Kismet Network XML Log
- Kismet Network CSV Log
- NetStumbler Log (Binary)
- NetStumbler Summary Log
- NetStumbler Full Log
- NetStumbler wiscan Log
Note: The Kismet dump file is not included for security reasons. After reviewing it, I found IRC conversations, emails and clear netbios traffic for known local Perth users. I will follow up with them to "improve" their security.
Speaking of security... I wonder how ethical it would be to code up a script that maps to printers available on open/insecure WLAN netbios networks and print out "Your Wireless Network is insecure, Please fix it!"?
I know what the law says so I'd never do it... but it would give the sysadmins pause wouldn't it
... 8-)Reposted on Sunday August 18 2002 @ 05:14AM WST
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Slashdotted, here's what I could recover
posted by Jason Jordan on Sunday August 18 2002 @ 05:14AM WST
ProjectsWe did it! It's gotta be a first! We don't need no car to car WLAN's - we go WarDriving at 250km/h in an aircraft... 8-)
Cap'n Richard, Will (Yagi), Peterh & me took "IGI" - a Grumman Tiger 4 seat aircraft up to 1500ft and flew around Perth picking up AP's with Netstumbler running on an Handheld Ipaq/Cantenna and Kismet on a Toshiba Tecra 9000 with built-in Antenna.
We stopped at Rotto first for a quick run to the Bakery, but then it was on. We got 92 AP's with Kismet... and 95 with NetStumbler.
You can check out the photos by clicking the link below. There is also an image generated by Cap'n Richard to demonstrate the track we took around Perth available on the Rogues site.
You can check out the Kismet & NetStumbler logs for yourself:- Kismet Network Log
- Kismet Network XML Log
- Kismet Network CSV Log
- NetStumbler Log (Binary)
- NetStumbler Summary Log
- NetStumbler Full Log
- NetStumbler wiscan Log
Note: The Kismet dump file is not included for security reasons. After reviewing it, I found IRC conversations, emails and clear netbios traffic for known local Perth users. I will follow up with them to "improve" their security.
Speaking of security... I wonder how ethical it would be to code up a script that maps to printers available on open/insecure WLAN netbios networks and print out "Your Wireless Network is insecure, Please fix it!"?
I know what the law says so I'd never do it... but it would give the sysadmins pause wouldn't it
... 8-)Reposted on Sunday August 18 2002 @ 05:14AM WST
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Slashdotted, here's what I could recover
posted by Jason Jordan on Sunday August 18 2002 @ 05:14AM WST
ProjectsWe did it! It's gotta be a first! We don't need no car to car WLAN's - we go WarDriving at 250km/h in an aircraft... 8-)
Cap'n Richard, Will (Yagi), Peterh & me took "IGI" - a Grumman Tiger 4 seat aircraft up to 1500ft and flew around Perth picking up AP's with Netstumbler running on an Handheld Ipaq/Cantenna and Kismet on a Toshiba Tecra 9000 with built-in Antenna.
We stopped at Rotto first for a quick run to the Bakery, but then it was on. We got 92 AP's with Kismet... and 95 with NetStumbler.
You can check out the photos by clicking the link below. There is also an image generated by Cap'n Richard to demonstrate the track we took around Perth available on the Rogues site.
You can check out the Kismet & NetStumbler logs for yourself:- Kismet Network Log
- Kismet Network XML Log
- Kismet Network CSV Log
- NetStumbler Log (Binary)
- NetStumbler Summary Log
- NetStumbler Full Log
- NetStumbler wiscan Log
Note: The Kismet dump file is not included for security reasons. After reviewing it, I found IRC conversations, emails and clear netbios traffic for known local Perth users. I will follow up with them to "improve" their security.
Speaking of security... I wonder how ethical it would be to code up a script that maps to printers available on open/insecure WLAN netbios networks and print out "Your Wireless Network is insecure, Please fix it!"?
I know what the law says so I'd never do it... but it would give the sysadmins pause wouldn't it
... 8-)Reposted on Sunday August 18 2002 @ 05:14AM WST
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Slashdotted, here's what I could recover
posted by Jason Jordan on Sunday August 18 2002 @ 05:14AM WST
ProjectsWe did it! It's gotta be a first! We don't need no car to car WLAN's - we go WarDriving at 250km/h in an aircraft... 8-)
Cap'n Richard, Will (Yagi), Peterh & me took "IGI" - a Grumman Tiger 4 seat aircraft up to 1500ft and flew around Perth picking up AP's with Netstumbler running on an Handheld Ipaq/Cantenna and Kismet on a Toshiba Tecra 9000 with built-in Antenna.
We stopped at Rotto first for a quick run to the Bakery, but then it was on. We got 92 AP's with Kismet... and 95 with NetStumbler.
You can check out the photos by clicking the link below. There is also an image generated by Cap'n Richard to demonstrate the track we took around Perth available on the Rogues site.
You can check out the Kismet & NetStumbler logs for yourself:- Kismet Network Log
- Kismet Network XML Log
- Kismet Network CSV Log
- NetStumbler Log (Binary)
- NetStumbler Summary Log
- NetStumbler Full Log
- NetStumbler wiscan Log
Note: The Kismet dump file is not included for security reasons. After reviewing it, I found IRC conversations, emails and clear netbios traffic for known local Perth users. I will follow up with them to "improve" their security.
Speaking of security... I wonder how ethical it would be to code up a script that maps to printers available on open/insecure WLAN netbios networks and print out "Your Wireless Network is insecure, Please fix it!"?
I know what the law says so I'd never do it... but it would give the sysadmins pause wouldn't it
... 8-)Reposted on Sunday August 18 2002 @ 05:14AM WST
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Re:Anyone remember this?Yeah I remember....
Perth: http://www.e3.com.au
Sydney: http://www.sydneywireless.com
Melbourne: http://www.x.net.auIn fact, if I could be bothered I'd post a link for multiple community wireless networks in all the major cities in Orstraya.
I think e3 has lists of all the Aussie sites anyway.
Knock yourself out.
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Shameless whoring
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