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Dijstra was a quiche eater

Expect.pm is great because you can use all those excellent perl modules (and you don't have to use tcl.)

One use I found for it is to put bash-like command-line editing on tools with lack command-line editing like Oracle's sqlplus. Just use it in conjunction with Term::ReadLine::Gnu and have ReadLine send commands to an Expect-controlled process. Sqlplus is finally usable!

-Bruce

Static pages are normally hard to keep updated, but there's light at the end of the tunnel. Software like WML make webmaster's life easy :-)

How about Ralf Engelschall's WML language? According to the copyright, WML came about in 1996.

How about Ralf Engelschall's WML language? According to the copyright, WML came about in 1996.

BOA looks nice, but I still think I'll rather take Website Meta Language - it lets me define the tags AND use Perl and other languages to build static pages.

Yes, it's a shame that not everybody is a programmer. I'm not a programmer...

So get off your lazy fat arse and learn. Nobody was born a programmer, and while some programmers are much better than others, 90% of that is hard work and dedication.

ePerl combines the into-HTML-embeddability of PHP with the power of Perl. Just have a look at http://www.engelschall.com/sw/eperl.

4 weeks ago Alan Cox spend a weekend i Denmark and Sweden giving talks in Stockholm and Lund to the local LUG he speeks very well!

Absolutely. He's brilliant. In fact, it seems like all the top people in Linux are brilliant speakers. Which came first, the brilliant speaking or the high position in the meritocracy?

This week at ApacheCon Europe I listened to Ralph Engelschall (mod_ssl, mod_rewrite, etc) speak. He was speaking in English, which (seeing he's Swiss) must be his third or fourth language. He was talking about SSL and security, which is a deep technical topic. He was lively, witty, inspiring, fun. He obviously enjoyed himself. He obviously knew his topic inside out. And he was able to communicate both his enjoyment and his knowledge.

I think what it comes down to is the meritocracy. Ralph Engelschall, like Alan Cox, got to his position in the meritocracy because he produces exceedingly could code ('damned cool voodoo'). You need to be pretty brilliant to produce code at that level, and many (though not all) pretty brilliant people are good speakers.

This makes place for the real WML !

PHP isn't really a competitor to Perl in the CGI space. PHP is embeded in an HTML page, whereas a Perl CGI is more likely to be in the backend, or at most generating HTML. There are HTML::Embperl, ePerl, and maybe other embeded perl options, but probably the way most people use Perl is not comparable to PHP.

It has structure in place for producing web documents in several languages. It's slow, but if you don't have much dynamic content, or you just want to know how it's implimented and maybe adopt for your PHP needs...

http://www.engelschall.com/sw/wml/

I don't use it for multi-lingual sites, but i would think it'd be pretty simple to set up. as far as the graphics, WML can help out there, too, through its support of the gfont language, which can create GIF images on the fly, using TeX fonts. with graphics for multiple languages, though, it may be tough creating buttons and the like because the length of the text could change so dramatically. i've not played with gfont either.

WML (and some tutorial pages, one describing multi-lingual sites) is at http://www.engelschall.com/sw/wml/. give it a try. it has made my web-development life much richer.

I don't use it for multi-lingual sites, but i would think it'd be pretty simple to set up. as far as the graphics, WML can help out there, too, through its support of the gfont language, which can create GIF images on the fly, using TeX fonts. with graphics for multiple languages, though, it may be tough creating buttons and the like because the length of the text could change so dramatically. i've not played with gfont either.

WML (and some tutorial pages, one describing multi-lingual sites) is at http://www.engelschall.com/sw/wml/. give it a try. it has made my web-development life much richer.

It has been my opinion for a long time that database driven dynamic web pages are entirely overused. If more people used things like Website Meta Language to preprocess their web site and make them "dynamically generated but statically served" that would take us a long way toward being able to index content.

There is a tradeoff. All of your content is then not only in a database it is also in the web pages. But in my experience most sites who are dynamically generating their content via PHP, ASP, perl, mod_perl, whatever, don't really have enough content to worry about it.

• Pass 1: Source Reading and Include File Expansion (ipp)
• Pass 2: Meta HTML Macro Construct Expansion (mhc)
• Pass 3: Perl 5 Programming Construct Expansion (eperl)
• Pass 4: M4 Macro Construct Expansion (gm4)
• Pass 5: Diversion Filter (divert)
• Pass 6: Character and String Substitution (asubst)
• Pass 7: HTML Fixup (htmlfix)
• Pass 8: Line Stripping and Output Fixup (htmlstrip)
• Pass 9: Output Splitting and Final Writing (slice)

• Pass 1: Source Reading and Include File Expansion (ipp)
• Pass 2: Meta HTML Macro Construct Expansion (mhc)
• Pass 3: Perl 5 Programming Construct Expansion (eperl)
• Pass 4: M4 Macro Construct Expansion (gm4)
• Pass 5: Diversion Filter (divert)
• Pass 6: Character and String Substitution (asubst)
• Pass 7: HTML Fixup (htmlfix)
• Pass 8: Line Stripping and Output Fixup (htmlstrip)
• Pass 9: Output Splitting and Final Writing (slice)

claims theoretical support for 4 gigs at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ51.html. Cdrom.com has some impressive stats too on their new box. The problem with trying ultra high-end stuff on PC hardware is the best you can really say to your boss is that it should work. Companies like Sun or SGI have already deployed hundreds (if not thousands) so you shouldn't end up with any suprises along the way.

Another alternative could be to buy a bunch of smaller (high end P2 and moderate memory+disk) clones and set a bunch of those up. New videos would be added to the servers in round-robin order and more popular videos could be placed on multiple servers. Now you would have one (or maybe more for reliability) redirectors which could redirect the request to the right server using mod_rewrite. Through the use of an external program (which would do a database lookup most likely), the user could be redirected to the proper server based on regular expression patern grabbing from the URL. See the "External Rewriting Engine" part in the Rewrite guide. It is also possible to transparently proxy the request so the user never sees http://www19.example.com/ugly/url/movie.xyz, but you probably aren't http streaming your movies anyway.

http://www.engelschall.com/sw/wml

it rules and it's open source.

try WML and the pain is over.