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  1. Re:NEBS compliant hardware required by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on UnitedLinux Pushes Into Telecom Market
    I've used Sun carrier grade hardware, don't know of any Intel based. Does any exist?

    Here is a list I compiled.



    IBM
    HP
    Intel,
    Crystal PC,
    Force Computer,
    RadiSYS



    There are many many Intel server vendors but there
    are only handful who makes NEBS compliant ones.

  2. PowerPC != Apple !!!! by amix · · Score: 2, Informative · on Red Hat To Support PowerPC, AltiVec

    The G3/G4, Power4 etc. belong to the PowerPC (PPC) family of CPUs. Of course, we all know this.

    However, few participating in the discussion seem to acknowledge, that there is more systems running PPC than Apple's Macs.

    PPC is important in the embedded market. It has a high performance, stays relatively cool There are 'computers on a card' (a PCI card with a G3/G4 on it plus memory). They communicate over TCP/IP (or proprietary protocols) over the PCI bus with the host system. Nice if you want to have a mini cluster, a physical firewall, or whatever...

    Then we have several (Micro)ATX mobos, some even for dual G4 (SMP). They get used mostly in the industry, however, this year will see two new home/office-desktop G3/G4 systems that have nothing in common with Apple. See here:

    So it is obvious that RedHat, being focussed more on industry/server markets than on hte Desktop (that is their current goal as far as I am informed) has some interest in supporting PPC development. Altivec is a very good instruction set and having optimizations for it will be a great benefit. Altivec is not only for MultiMedia, btw. !

    Theoretically, all these systems could run LinuxPPC !

    Personally I am happy to see some major resource supporting the PowerPC since I would prefer a PPC machine far more than the archaical, outlived, patched & hacked i86 platform (can you use all your PCI slots without clashes...? I can't and my MoBo is from April last year...) Also the PPCs keep quite cool, meaning one could live without an active fan, unlike the Athlon hair-driers...;-)

    For the enhusiasts: There are at least two other desktop (!) OS in the works, which are PPC native and come with SMP support: MorphOS (in the works since three years or more) and AmigaOS4.x

  3. PowerPC != Apple !!!! by amix · · Score: 2, Informative · on Red Hat To Support PowerPC, AltiVec

    The G3/G4, Power4 etc. belong to the PowerPC (PPC) family of CPUs. Of course, we all know this.

    However, few participating in the discussion seem to acknowledge, that there is more systems running PPC than Apple's Macs.

    PPC is important in the embedded market. It has a high performance, stays relatively cool There are 'computers on a card' (a PCI card with a G3/G4 on it plus memory). They communicate over TCP/IP (or proprietary protocols) over the PCI bus with the host system. Nice if you want to have a mini cluster, a physical firewall, or whatever...

    Then we have several (Micro)ATX mobos, some even for dual G4 (SMP). They get used mostly in the industry, however, this year will see two new home/office-desktop G3/G4 systems that have nothing in common with Apple. See here:

    So it is obvious that RedHat, being focussed more on industry/server markets than on hte Desktop (that is their current goal as far as I am informed) has some interest in supporting PPC development. Altivec is a very good instruction set and having optimizations for it will be a great benefit. Altivec is not only for MultiMedia, btw. !

    Theoretically, all these systems could run LinuxPPC !

    Personally I am happy to see some major resource supporting the PowerPC since I would prefer a PPC machine far more than the archaical, outlived, patched & hacked i86 platform (can you use all your PCI slots without clashes...? I can't and my MoBo is from April last year...) Also the PPCs keep quite cool, meaning one could live without an active fan, unlike the Athlon hair-driers...;-)

    For the enhusiasts: There are at least two other desktop (!) OS in the works, which are PPC native and come with SMP support: MorphOS (in the works since three years or more) and AmigaOS4.x

  4. PowerPC != Apple !!!! by amix · · Score: 2, Informative · on Red Hat To Support PowerPC, AltiVec

    The G3/G4, Power4 etc. belong to the PowerPC (PPC) family of CPUs. Of course, we all know this.

    However, few participating in the discussion seem to acknowledge, that there is more systems running PPC than Apple's Macs.

    PPC is important in the embedded market. It has a high performance, stays relatively cool There are 'computers on a card' (a PCI card with a G3/G4 on it plus memory). They communicate over TCP/IP (or proprietary protocols) over the PCI bus with the host system. Nice if you want to have a mini cluster, a physical firewall, or whatever...

    Then we have several (Micro)ATX mobos, some even for dual G4 (SMP). They get used mostly in the industry, however, this year will see two new home/office-desktop G3/G4 systems that have nothing in common with Apple. See here:

    So it is obvious that RedHat, being focussed more on industry/server markets than on hte Desktop (that is their current goal as far as I am informed) has some interest in supporting PPC development. Altivec is a very good instruction set and having optimizations for it will be a great benefit. Altivec is not only for MultiMedia, btw. !

    Theoretically, all these systems could run LinuxPPC !

    Personally I am happy to see some major resource supporting the PowerPC since I would prefer a PPC machine far more than the archaical, outlived, patched & hacked i86 platform (can you use all your PCI slots without clashes...? I can't and my MoBo is from April last year...) Also the PPCs keep quite cool, meaning one could live without an active fan, unlike the Athlon hair-driers...;-)

    For the enhusiasts: There are at least two other desktop (!) OS in the works, which are PPC native and come with SMP support: MorphOS (in the works since three years or more) and AmigaOS4.x

  5. Re:PPC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Two Shots In The Arm For PPC Linux
    >Yeah, so where do I buy a PPC motherboard and CPU?

    Here:

    Some stuff in the works is here:

    And some (German) announcement of a PPC System on a PCI card,aka MicroServer, would make a nice hardwared personal Firewall ;-))

  6. Re:PSOS and a longer OSS rant. by Zach+Frey · · Score: 1 · on ISI, Mitsubishi to Develop New Operating System

    Somebody moderate this rant up! I've been working with pSOS, VxWorks, etc. for some years now, and I can agree with what you say wholeheartedly.

    One small item:

    But if my target is some weird iron featuring the latest funky embedded microprossesor from motorola, there is zero chance of linux being ported to my target by somebody else, least of all motorola themselves.

    This seems to be the whole point of MontaVista -- they take that "weird iron" and get Linux running on it. So far, they seem to have only tackled Pentium CompactPCI systems, but I expect that given time and incentive ($$$) they will branch out. Certainly Force isn't an Intel-only shop.

    And if Mot were smart, they'd help push Linux onto their funky embedded chips, especially the 68360 and the PowerPC 860 series. But I've never been able to figure out Mot's OS "strategy" ... they seem to just want to make cool hardware and not to have to worry about what's running on top of it.