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Re:It's sad to see
The bastion of US freedom, your constitution is based upon a document of British freedom, the Magna Carta written some 700 years earlier.
No, the US Constitution is based on the constitution of the Iroquios Confederacy. As a printer Benjamin Franklin was asked by the Confederacy to print copies of their constitution.
And the Magna Carta was issued in 1215, less than 600 years before the USA Constitution was written. Ah, I see you say that later, so your math is bad?
Most European states saw the separation of church and state long before the US
Except many of the first European settlers to come to the Americas were fleeing religious persecution. What's ironic is that once they had the freedom to follow their religion they started persecuting followers of other religions as well as burning innocents on the stake.
Falcon
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It Used to BeI was a child in the 1950's, and at that time we looked at the police as our friends; someone to go to if we had trouble, and they would actually help. We even sought them out and liked to joke and talk with them; they were not intimidating at all. Somewhere between then and now the situation has changed. I have lately heard parents telling their children to basically avoid police, and how they are to oh-so-carefully behave if they encounter one.
In part this may come from a change in the attitude of the police from one of "serve and protect," to one of "control and contain" the population. Things like the Taser make it easier for them to keep away from any sort of "social" or intellectual contact with the people; they can just quickly end any sort of situation without thought - they just blindly use their "training" for each and every situation and thus maintain the us-vs-them attitude. Of course, maybe kids have changed, and perhaps Tasers and intimidation are the only way to deal with them these days. Whatever the reason, it seems like a not so good situation for our country to get itself into.
They are tasering 12 year olds. If a person cannot handle a pre-teen child's tantrum without a Taser, they should not be in the police force. While I'm at it, just why CAN'T SIX (count them, SIX) policemen handle a single "Don't tase me, bro." college student without a Taser or other tool beyond handcuffs?
But of course, this is neoAmerica, and torture of non-citizens has been approved at the highest levels of our government; it is only a short matter of time before torture is approved for citizens as well.
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Re:Did You Look at the Pictures?
Yes, and buggered if I can see a 757. Tried to find an alternative source for the video and found this though. Its
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knew I'd seen it before...
Here is a few things I am sure everyone has seen but it is very interesting and there are certainly some REALLY good questions and analysis in here.
http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm
http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/penta gon.php
One question comes to mind seeing these pictures...
Where is the "skid" mark?
The whole (before the collapse of the 3rd and 4th floors) is WAY to small for a 757, so what was it?
There is no wreckage...
I don't really go that deep into the conspiracy thing but looking at this with scale models of planes and the pentagon make it obvious that it wasn't a 757.
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Can someone please explain...
...what happened at the pentagon on 9/11? The photographic evidence seems to contradict the the official story... Look
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Re:Yay for broadband!
...and independent media productions, exposing all manors of foul political play, manipulation, and cover-ups in the earth's favorite democracy. Stuff like this:
http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/penta gon.php
Anyways... Anything that allows people to interface and exchange information is a good thing. Chances are better that we'll be able to get closer to the truth through this sea of confusion. -
Re: Nothing to see here
Oh please. Not since the Vietnam war has America been so bitterly divided politically, with each party's lunatic fringe trying to out-do the other. I for one am just as likely to believe this story as I am the memory hole video about a missile hitting the Pentagon on 9/11.
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Bush Administration in Action
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Ooh, look! They saved the big bug for the electionPeople have known about this vulnerability for ages. Microsoft created the damned thing, for goodness sake. The people in charge of determining how JPEGs are processed when they return a data overflow ARE NOT THAT INCOMPETENT! This is NOT a bug.
And it was carefully timed. The more fear and confusion on the web, the less attention will be given to the important issues, namely the election coming up in. . . How Many Days??
For goodness sake, Gates is part of the Homeland clique; he's spent time in planning meets with Homeland honchos to better determine how Microsoft could 'help out'.
Not that it actually matters. This is now merely an internal struggle between pawns; Kerry is just as much a dangerous bastard as Bush. .
WASHINGTON (AFP) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry's campaign blasted the Bush administration for "another national security failure" on Iran's nuclear program and urged that Tehran be threatened with tougher sanctions.
Campaign spokesman Mark Kitchens told AFP that the White House's "arrogant unilateralism" had made it harder to get the necessary cooperation from European allies and the UN nuclear watchdog to rein in Iran's ambitions.
He made his comments a day after a State Department spokesman expressed alarm over Iran's admitted program of uranium enrichment and declared that Tehran was making an "unrelenting push toward nuclear weapons capability."
"Recent developments represent another national security failure for the Bush administration," Kitchens said as the Kerry campaign sharpened its attacks on President George W. Bush six weeks before the November 2 election.
--That is, (pardon my editorializing), both parties, despite their surface disagreements, are pushing for an escalation against Iran. This is the exact same technique as was used against Iraq. There is almost no difference.
Run a bunch of bullshit stories about the 'sudden' threat of Iranian nuclear intentions to gain a big, sloppy, predictable and easily directed emotional response from all the American twits and drones.
Israel complains and whines that the UN should do something, despite the fact that there have been illegal nukes in the arsenals of the Promised Land for decades. Double standards, anyone? (Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot. The Zionists are the Good Guys. They're allowed to commit genocide so long as they own all the news papers and have it called 'anti-terrorism'.)
The UN is bullied into creating a half-assed directive by which Iran can be observed, tested and punished if they don't meet some arbitrary dead-line.
It doesn't matter what the heck the actual findings are when the UN inspectors are sent in, the American media and the psychopaths in government will simply tell lies and spin the hell out of everything to get what they want, which is. .
Cluster bombs in Iran, dead children, de-stablized government and CIA installed despot. Just like in Iraq. --And needless to say, all Americans between the ages of 19 and 38 carrying machine guns.
The most ridiculous part is that EVERYBODY WILL FUCKING FALL FOR IT AGAIN. --Because Americans have been the subject of a century long campaign to make them poor, ignorant, fat, drugged, and retarded.
A nuclear bomb in some American city set off by the Mossad or CIA in yet another false-flag operation around election time would be a good way to spur things along if this JPEG bullshit driving people away from the web doesn't prevent enough communication and public discourse.
We'll see.
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Lonegunmen and Pentagon .From the top of my head, I like these two tid bits. . . (Neither story censored; more like, totally overlooked.)
Six months before 9-11, an episode of the Lone Gunmen featured the following; "The FOX TV series The Lone Gunmen (X-Files spin off) airs their opening episode "Pilot" six months before 9/11 which depicts a secret U.S. government agency behind a plot to crash a Boeing 727 into the WTC via remote control and blame it on foreign terrorists in the hopes of generating a bigger military budget."
A lot of the X-Files was channeled stuff through Carter's noodle, it is thought, and I tend to agree. A lot was also poop, but that's how it goes. .
Anyway, my other current fave was this neat little flash movie which looks into the Pentagon Crash, suggesting that it was a drone aircraft and not a passenger jet which hit the government complex.
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