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Just go at http://www.genocide2600.com/jp/.

If you're above 18, then you may want to look in directory nun (WARNING: it is the alleged picture of a nun covered by seminal fluid, so you may not want to see it, especially if you are at work, and your boss is expected to visit you)

Ken looks like a cracker of the worse type, doing media manipulation (slashdot), and whining.

Technically, Ken was the only one who hinted his data would not be returned. He did manage to backup one directory though: http://www.genocide2600.com/jp/. Strange sense of priorities on his part.

I agree 100% with your comments about JP but everything you said also applies to Ken Williams. He decided to use his security site as a platform to publish crap about soneone else and then tried to blame JP for his site being removed. Next, he and his coherts at crackernews.com go on to claim Harvard destroyed all of the security related files (which can be found in the BugTraq archives) but they manage to "recover" the infamous /jp/ directory and place it online. I certianly see where Ken's priorities are now! He, like JP and many others in the "hacker" community has chosen to spend more of his time trying to destroy specific people rather than help the community as a whole. The strangest part of this whole situation is that even after Ken's little game has been exposed, people still try to defend him.

I know Ken Williams, and although I didn't see the material in question or talk to him yet about all this, I do not think he would put the kind of content being described on his site. It seems (from Harvard's email) that he is getting his data back, which is good - I know that he has put a LOT of time into it.

If I knew more about this, I would comment on it, but PacketStorm is no longer up, so I can't see what JP alleged was on the site. The 'public letter' that JP refers to is at his old site, which is now inoperative.

It's too bad Vranesevich didn't contact Ken directly instead of Harvard. If he wanted the offending material removed, Ken could have done that, not Harvard. No, he wanted the ENTIRE SITE removed. That's pretty selfish; there was so much more to the site that just the small part the he had a problem with.

It's also interesting that Vranesevich describes AntiOnline's mission as 'putting an end to malicious hackers', but does any of the material that offended him really have anything to do with hacking? From his (JP's) description of it, it doesn't seem so. Assuming, of course, that what he said was on the site really was - which I am not convinced of. Perhaps a better question is, is Ken a malicious hacker? Not as far as I know, and in fact it seems that since he provided for free a very large and useful website that took much of his time to maintain, he definately NOT a 'malicious hacker'. In fact, I believe Ken (and PacketStorm) were (and hopefully will be again) very useful to many people around the world. I certainly don't think PacketStorm was getting 400,000+ hits/day because of AntiOnline insults/threats (if there were any there in the first place). Maybe JP should define what exactly a 'malicious hacker' is.

IMHO, it's irresponsible to create a parody-in-bad-taste of a person or group you don't like, and associate it with a legitimate "hacker" security tools site. It's just as likely to sabotage your own reputation. as that of the target.

In another thread above, someone posted the url of an alleged copy of the data that was in the disputed directory. I don't know whether this is the actual content from the page but it seems likely.

He claims he had no backups of his site but managed to post the directory in question:

http://www.genocide2600.com/jp/

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http://www.genocide2600.com/jp/

They "lost" all backups of the security archive but managed to keep that directory! My new formula:

Antionline=Packetstorm

Do you really believe Harvard would have given the backups back w/o slashdot and hackernews making it public?

Of course. Just like the /jp/ directory in question, Ken's claim the admins "noted the likelihood that all information on the machine, and all backups would be destroyed" was a pathetic attempt to make Antionline look bad. In other words, he is doing the same thing which caused me to stop visiting Antionline (except to make fun of JP of course).

Here's a little interesting thing. They claim all backups to their Bugtraq archive/Security site were destroyed but somehow managed to reconstruct the directory in question and place it at http://www.genocide2600.com/jp/. I don't know if the link will work because those k-rad guyz are blocking some referrers... just like antionline.