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Gimp 0.99.19
Joseph Fisk wrote in with news to my ears: the latest version of The Gimp is out and about. Snag it from the same place as always. -
Gimp 0.99.19
Joseph Fisk wrote in with news to my ears: the latest version of The Gimp is out and about. Snag it from the same place as always. -
The X Desktop (Editorial)
Here is something to think about. A friendly war is being waged over what your X desktop will look like in the years to one. Hit the link below to read about the two major contenters, KDE and Gnome, what I think about them, and why they need to work together.The Battle for the Unix Dekstop is on. It's pretty much accepted that nobody cares about CDE anymore, and the future lies along another path. But what path is that? Two have emerged now. The major contendors for our future are Gnome and KDE.
There are many similiarities between the two standards. Both feature good looking, extensible widget sets. Both provide a unified look and feel accrossed applications. And both have an army of passionate supporters.
But the differences are where the problems lie. KDE has been criticized for it's use of Qt, Troll's popular widget set used in numerous applications. The problem is that Qt isn't "Free" in the RMS definition of the word. People beat on K for this. Realisticly, Qt is 'Free Enough' for all but the most hard core user, but many people are opposed to the tool kits we rely on being anything less than Free. I don't think that this alone is reason to shelf KDE, but it looks like public opinion is headed that way already.
The second major opposition to KDE is the similiarities that it has with Windows. Hard core unix users often use unix to get away from the interface that KDE has tried so hard to emulate. The similiar widgets, and the start-button like cascading menu however are a good start for new users seeking handholding as they adapt to a new OS. I think it's important that the veteran Unix users realize that, and just remember that this interface is for the newbies.
Gnome doesn't have license issues- the G in Gnome stands for GNU, and the whole package is under the GPL. Gnome is the younger of the desktop options, and it shows. While K has a full Window Manager and numerous applications showing off slick integration, Gnome is all rough edges. But these rough edges are being smoothed at an amazing rate as GTK gets closer and closer to one point oh. And don't forget the premiere Gnome Application, The Gimp. A new desktop won't drive installation for many systems, but the Gimp will. And since you already need GTK, why not throw the rest of Gnome on too? This reasoning will drive Gnome forward.
Recently RedHat opened up their Advanced Development Labs and announced that one of their major projects was advancing the X desktop. To that end, they snagged Raster, one of the talented programmers largely responsible for The Enlightenment Window Manager. Soon after, Raster ported E's image library (imlib) to work with Gnome's GDK.
But now KDE has released beta 3, and while the stability is a bit lacking, and there are holes you could drive a family sized sedan through, it is a cohesive product that is getting very close to it's goal of producing a standard X based desktop that looks good, is easy for a new user to adapt too, and is reasonably customizable and extendable. Some distributions have decided that K is already strong enough to ship.
But what now? I wish I had a simple answer here, but I don't. I see 2 groups of people working on amazing software. But I don't want this whole effort to result in the need for every modern unix system to install 2 more sets of libraries to run a few more applications. And I don't want to see programming efforts duplicated by multiple people around the world.
I don't mind diversity, it really is what makes Unix the cool thing it is today, but this time we need to work together. Both KDE and Gnome have a web browser. This can't be efficient! Both will have status indicators, irc clients, panel applications, task viewers and text editors. And each of these programs will have a couple of talented coders hacking away on them.
So I don't know what the answer is. Perhaps a set of C++ wrapper classes that allow KDE applications to compile under GTK? There must be away to bring together these 2 wonderful products in a way that allows both of them to accomplish their goal of a better UI for X in less time.
What do you guys think?
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Mark Kilgard Disappears
Aspirin The Fox wrote in to tell us that Mark Kilgard, famous OpenGL advocate, and disappeared from SGI. This information was announced on an OpenGL game developers list. Is this related to the cozying up of MS & SGI during the Fahrenheit deal? -
Gimp.org Contest
Snorfle writes "The next Gimp.Org contest is under way! This time it is even more exciting... the topic is a logo for GNOME, and RHAD Labs is giving the winner a drawing tablet! There are a couple entries already, so hurry up and upload yours as well. Creating the official GNOME logo could be your chance to be famous!" This is a contest I could sink my teeth into. Wouldn't mind a drawing template either- I love those cool Wacom ones with the eraser built in. -
Gimp.org Contest
Snorfle writes "The next Gimp.Org contest is under way! This time it is even more exciting... the topic is a logo for GNOME, and RHAD Labs is giving the winner a drawing tablet! There are a couple entries already, so hurry up and upload yours as well. Creating the official GNOME logo could be your chance to be famous!" This is a contest I could sink my teeth into. Wouldn't mind a drawing template either- I love those cool Wacom ones with the eraser built in. -
Linux Quake Logo Contest
Shaw Terwilliger asked me to plug The Linux Quake Page's new Logo Contest. You've got 10 days left to submit your entry. Special consideration given to Free Software. IMHO "Special Consideration" is a bad idea. If Free Software needed special treatment, I wouldn't have created all the images on Slashdot in The Gimp. -
New Gimp
Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote in to let us know that 0.99.18 of everyone's favorite free Image Manipulation Program is available. I believe you also need GTK 0.99.3 so don't forget to snag it too. -
New Gimp
Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote in to let us know that 0.99.18 of everyone's favorite free Image Manipulation Program is available. I believe you also need GTK 0.99.3 so don't forget to snag it too. -
New GTK
Piotr Mitros was the first to write in and tell us that the new GTK is out- apparently it breaks Gimp 17, but 18 will be out soon. Hope I'll be able to compile these guys... the last few have been harry and I really want to check out the several improved plug-ins. Grap it off of Gimp.org. -
Linux Expo Updates
Thank Adrian Likins for letting us know that The LinuxExpo Website has been updated. They now list costs, dates, events and lot's of other information. The dates don't overlap any of my classes, so there is a very good chance that I'll be there. Hope to see ya. -
Gimp Contest Winners Announced
Manish Singh let me know that the Animated Gif Contest Winner has been posted to Contest.gimp.org. Virtual Wilbur & Ewing's cool animated Tux took the prize, although my favorite was the bizarre brown animated texture. Cool stuff if you haven't seen them yet. -
Gimp Contest Winners Announced
Manish Singh let me know that the Animated Gif Contest Winner has been posted to Contest.gimp.org. Virtual Wilbur & Ewing's cool animated Tux took the prize, although my favorite was the bizarre brown animated texture. Cool stuff if you haven't seen them yet. -
GNOME Updates
Adrian Likins, who seems to be the Slashdot Ambassador to all things Gimp, wrote in to let us know that GNOME has released 0.11. I'm gonna try to get K and GNOME running and see what I think of both of them now that they both have fairly up to date versions. -
Gimp Contest
Shawn T. Amundson sent in a note to let us know that the Gimp Contest has announced the January Competition:a Gzilla Spinner. Ought to be very cool. The winner for October's Animated Gif contest will be announced soon. There were a couple of amazing entries, if you didn't check them out, you should. -
New Gimp & GTK
Thanks to the zillions of you who let me know that both the Gimp and GTK have updated (0.99.17 and 0.99.2 respectively). Grab them from the ftp site. Off I go to grab my copy. -
New Gimp & GTK
Thanks to the zillions of you who let me know that both the Gimp and GTK have updated (0.99.17 and 0.99.2 respectively). Grab them from the ftp site. Off I go to grab my copy.