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Re:L4/Hurd
L4/Hurd has been experiencing massive development for more than a year now.
If by massive development, you mean 2 guys cranking out a total of about 500 lines of code, then you are correct. 99% of the talk on the L4/Hurd mailing list is just that. Talk. Of course you know that L4 isn't going to be used. So even those 500 lines are going to disappear. The Hurd could have been something interesting/usable, but its currently been 20 years of vaporware. -
Re:Feh.
Too bad QNX is proprietary. L4 does look pretty promising even if there doesn't seem to be much real world usage. However, according to a section about GNU Hurd at gnufans.org, L4 is deprecated, whatever that means in this context. Why can't any good opensource microkernels ever seem to get off the ground?
I'll admit that the example about Windows XP/KDE/Gnome was a pretty crappy example though. I don't see me CPU usage consistently skyrocketing from the windowing system. :b -
What's the difference?RMS hates everything! I still use his software and like his free software philosophy and will even be reviewing the HURD/GNU live CD tommorrow. Anybody using Open Source at all, be it from OpenSolaris, Linux, or BSD, would have to agree that he's the source of some damn fine software. But he gets loonier every year. He doesn't seem to get that the saying "That Government governs best which governs least." applies to renegade free-love commune governments as well. He's getting as bad as Theo and ESR.
Man, you should check out the lone pure GNU distro: made with Debian co-operation, but the tension is thick even there...and Debian should be one of RMS's best friends!
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Hurd Donations
That would be like saying if the HURD could spend $1billion on R&D they could probably produce a finished OS. The lack of the $1 billion is the key here.
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Re:Agreed... FSF.
NeoOffice/J? Looks like a port of OO.o to a non-free platform. Who cares? How many people is that going to affect? Might as well apply the money to a project that needs it, and is worthwhile. Hurd anyone?
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donate money
And if you're really inclined to help the Hurd along, and have more money than hack time, you could always make adonation.
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Plan 9
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Rumor mill
The developers are working on it slowly now, although one is arranging to get funds to work on it a substantial fraction of his time.
Interesting. Which developer is hoping to get funding? Is it one of the current Hurd contributors like Marcus Brinkmann, Neal Walfield, Ognyan Kulev or Michael Banck? What would they want to work on? The port to L4? Who's sponsoring him? Is it the g10code people? They've collected donations for Hurd development in the past. How close is this to happening? I haven't seen anything on the hurd mailing lists (although I unsubscribed a year ago when they became 95+% spam).Please include you rampant unsubstantiated speculations below.
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Re:Agree. Better places to put in effort
Actually, I just got it booting on my Asus A7N8X with Western Digital WD1200JB and NVidia GeForce FX 5900. Turns out there is a newly discovered bug in gnumach which barfs when you have lots of RAM installed. Add the command uppermem 523648 to Grub's boot entry and magically it all works.
For the more adventurous, you can check out Hurd on L4. The link is to a wiki page that I have been working on recently. But while you can actually run the Hurd and do things in the X-Window system with Gnumach, the L4 variant is just getting off the ground. Some recent crucial code porting has recently occured and we may soon see a libc0 for Hurd on L4 with any luck. If you want to spend about an hour making a bootable debugger then check out the link
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