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A reliable flow rate is important if you want to try to understand how a leak of as much as 100,000 barrels/day during a time when we are supposedly retrieving "only" 1,734,000 barrels per day in total from the Gulf is related to declining oil prices.

Put another way: "Gee...how come just one leak is equal to 1/18th of the total amount of oil that is supposedly being pumped out of the Gulf of Mexico? When there are "nearly 4,000 active oil and gas platforms" in the Gulf of Mexico?"

here's an outdated page (from '05), but it took me 3 seconds of googling to find. it says oil profit margins are about 6.8%, close to my 5% estimate. http://www.gravmag.com/oil.html#dollar

How about the fact that Canada is the USA's #1 supplier of Oil? This information is at least two years out of date, but that's not very far out of date at all. If somebody has a more recent link, great, but it won't have changed a whole lot.

Lots of targets up here that WILL hurt you.

With whole oil thing the middle east actually is the primary supplier to EUROPE not the U.S. we get most of ours from south america, africa and canada

Yep. Here's a nice map showing where the US gets its oil imports. The top four sources are Canada, Mexico, Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, each at about 15%. Which one is the top source varies from month to month. Other Middle East sources -- Iraq, Kuwait, UAE -- add up to about 15% as well. Summing up, about 50% comes from the Western Hemisphere, about 30% from the Middle East, and the other 20% from places like Africa, the North Sea producers, and Indonesia.

No. The US doesn't invade it's neighbours. It invades complete strangers on the other side of the planet.

Complete strangers? Hmm, I thought one of the arguments against the war in Iraq was that the US was in bed with them beforehand (similarly the Afghanis and Taliban). I think if we were really complete strangers they'd have been much safer. Don't you agree?

It's easier to get the funding through Congress that way.

Huh? Source? Basis? Clue? I think Congress usually wants a reason (and in the case of Iraq, apparently got a good enough one, since Repubnocrats and Demolicans both approved the action.) It's hard to give a reason to invade a complete stranger. Uh oh. IHBT?

Of course, if South America were overflowing with oil, well I'm sure someone would come up with a nice excuse. It's not like South America doesn't have its share of dictators and civil rights violations we couldn't use as justifcation.

Here's where you kill your own argument in-utero. The US gets more of its oil from Venezuela (13%) than it does from Iraq (8%). This is true now, and was true before the war. Check out that site for more surprising facts about the US and oil (some of which provide much better ammo for assaults like the one you attempted and failed at so miserably.)

My favorite (doesn't help you at all, and is quite OT): In 1996, the USA was the world's leading [oil] producer, with about 7.5 million barrels per day

Whether or not your intentions are good (I think so) doesn't aid your incredibly weak attempt at an argument.

No. The US doesn't invade it's neighbours. It invades complete strangers on the other side of the planet.

Complete strangers? Hmm, I thought one of the arguments against the war in Iraq was that the US was in bed with them beforehand (similarly the Afghanis and Taliban). I think if we were really complete strangers they'd have been much safer. Don't you agree?

It's easier to get the funding through Congress that way.

Huh? Source? Basis? Clue? I think Congress usually wants a reason (and in the case of Iraq, apparently got a good enough one, since Repubnocrats and Demolicans both approved the action.) It's hard to give a reason to invade a complete stranger. Uh oh. IHBT?

Of course, if South America were overflowing with oil, well I'm sure someone would come up with a nice excuse. It's not like South America doesn't have its share of dictators and civil rights violations we couldn't use as justifcation.

Here's where you kill your own argument in-utero. The US gets more of its oil from Venezuela (13%) than it does from Iraq (8%). This is true now, and was true before the war. Check out that site for more surprising facts about the US and oil (some of which provide much better ammo for assaults like the one you attempted and failed at so miserably.)

My favorite (doesn't help you at all, and is quite OT): In 1996, the USA was the world's leading [oil] producer, with about 7.5 million barrels per day

Whether or not your intentions are good (I think so) doesn't aid your incredibly weak attempt at an argument.

This is the first time I've heard of the Flatirons actually being made of "massive chunks of iron". I believe they are actually sandstone. They are named for their visual appearance.

I can attest to the awful reception of the WWV signals in Boulder, though they are occasionally intelligible. Still, this seems like a strange topic for /..