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Photo links via Google...
http://corporate.honda.com/environment/fuel_cells
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http://www.honda.co.jp/FCX/ (Flash in Japanese)
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/10/hondas_mor e_pow.html (chassis)
http://world.honda.com/news/2005/4050629.html (with family)
http://www.hondanews.com/CatID2045?view=p&page=1&f irstcat=false&kw=05familyfcx (image gallery)
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Re:100+ MPG Honda InsightWell, let's do a comparison, shall we?
1994 Geo Metro XFi
1 liter, 3 cylinder, 49 HP
1621 pounds
53/58 MPG (55 MPG combined)
Head Room: 37.8 in. front, 36.5 in. rear
Shoulder Room: 51.6 in. front, 50.5 in. rear
Hip Room: 51.1 in. front, 42.5 in. rear
Leg Room: 42.5 in. front, 29.8 in. rear
Passenger Capacity: 4
Average price: $2,072
2000 Honda Insight
1 liter, 3 cylinder, 67 HP (plus electric motor)
1850 pounds
61/70 MPG (65 MPG combined)
Head Room: 38.8 in. front
Shoulder Room: 50.5 in. front
Hip Room: 48.7 in. front
Leg Room: 42.9 in. front
Passenger Capacity: 2
Average price: $10,658
1988 Honda CRX HF
1.5 liter, 4 cylinder, 62 HP
1819 pounds
45/53 MPG (48 MPG combined)
Head Room: 37.0 in. front
Shoulder Room: 53.5 in. front
Hip Room: 54.9 in. front
Leg Room: 40.8 in. front
Passenger Capacity: 2
Average price: $3,282
As you can see, the Geo Metro weighs only 200 pounds less than the Honda Insight or Honda CRX, has comparable front passenger room, and can carry two extra passengers! It also gets better milage than the CRX, and costs $1,000 less than the (6 years older) CRX and more than $8,000 less than the Insight. So, if the goal is low-cost commuting, the Metro is the best value.
Sources:- Geo Metro gas milage, specifications, and prices
- Honda Insight gas milage, specifications, and prices
- Honda CRX HF gas milage, specifications, and prices
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Some REAL points about hydrogen
FC have extremally low power density, compared to internal combustion engines. So they weight more.
Moreover, the cheaper FC use PEM, and have an efficency less than 40%
So you don't gain efficency using a fuel cell instead of an internal combustion engine for moving your car.
Look for example at the Honda FCX : with 3.8 kg of hydrogen, it has a range of 190 miles.
Because 1 kg of hydrogen has the same content of energy as 1 gallon of gasoline, this car can do 50 mpg(about 21 km/l), the same as hybrid cars or diesel cars.
Moreover hydrogen can be made by many thing, but none cheaper then methane !!! So you pay a lot more, for having the same level of CO2 emitted
Last thing: nuclear cannot be used NOW for the production of hydrogen, because it requires nuclear plants operating at 850 C (at least), instead of 4-500 C of the current generation. -
Re:Help .... who?
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Variable Cylinders
It just so happens that later this year Honda will be releasing a hybrid V6 Accord that will shut down 3 cylinders to increase fuel economy. The so-called VCM technology will also be used on a model to be announced later this year as well.
Go to http://www.hondanews.com/CatID2003?mid=20040105271 29&mime=asc for slightly more details, along with some info about next year's fuel cell car.
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Re:Subsidies
Actually, Honda says that hybrids already do qualify. Check out this link.