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This reminds me of that anecdote from years back about a question asked by a clueless user on how he can "download all of the Internet" at once and take it with him... Seriously, are we supposed to believe, that "virtually all" of AT&T Internet traffic passes through one facility in San Francisco? It is likely, they have the same rooms in all major nodes, though...

Sir, I disagree. If it could happen in 1999 it can happen now. I also vaguely remember reading about another company, more recent, on engadget that was going to do the same thing but with compression and dual layered dvds.

> > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

> >

> > SYDNEY, Apr 1 1999 -- Viper Communications (http://www.viper.net.au)

> > today announced a revolution in Internet technology, known as

> > "Internet On CD." The product consists of the entire contents of the

> > Internet, packaged into a 6-CD collection. It includes such popular

> > sites as Microsoft, Yahoo and Playboy.

> >

> > "We believe that this product will be very well-received in the

> > marketplace," said Lotat Shubtill, marketing director and the driving

> > force behind product development. "With Internet links rapidly

> > achieving saturation, users will appreciate being able to browse the

> > entire Internet from their CD-ROM drive."

http://archive.humbug.org.au/aussie-isp/1999-04/msg00000.html

Would you argue that spammers are absolved of responsibility due to their clients? Whilst many might be pushing their own products, there are plenty that consider it part of an advertising initiative for clients. (Often portrayed as a part of a guerrilla marketing strategy - as seen here.) For every greedy client, there must be a litigious lawyer willing to take the case - they might not be solely to blame but they contribute to the problem.

What a bunch of political bullshit. For fuck sake people, it's a Linux distribution, not the United Nations. During the many years I spent at the University of Queensland I ran into Anthony Towns a bunch of times. Back then he was a fun loving geek, and I doubt much has changed. We both attended HUMBUG semi-regularly, and had a few laughs. The politics at HUMBUG were annoying too. For a bunch of geeks sitting in a lecture theatre playing around with Linux and ignoring whoever was giving a "presentation" that month, there was a heck of a lot bureaucracy, what with voting held annually for president, vice-president, treasurer, secretary and librarian. There's such a thing as too much organisation. Especially when people lose sight of the big picture and get bogged down in administrivity.

To see the blogs of those involved and commenting, go here.
See Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho and Joey Hess in particular. Anthony Towns (the Release Manager in question) has also blogged on the issue.

To see the blogs of those involved and commenting, go here.
See Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho and Joey Hess in particular. Anthony Towns (the Release Manager in question) has also blogged on the issue.

Indeed Linus is here, as well as Bdale and others. We got together for a meal at one of Adelaide's fine resturants. Lots of great conversations were had, the ususal stuff. Discussions of dumb vendors, brilliant past innovations and at other end of the table invisible Rabbits were mentioned. See the usual stuff... An image for you gratification... The really interesting thing is that this is being posted from a pub on Rundle street via free wifi! Ahhh yes, this Linux.conf will be good. Oh and it's the Second year in a row that Linus has attended, not the third... But where is Hemos ???

Or convince the LUG to become a general UUG like my local group HUMBUG (Home Unix Machine Brisbane User Group) which is for Linux, BSD, or any Unix for that matter.

A good description of this process has been made by Steve Albini, in Some of your friends are already this fscked.

Please. Don't sugar coat it for nerds. The word is 'fucked'.

If you'd ever spent any, er, "quality" time with fsck(8) , you'd know that it's not a sugar-coating...

Ole

(Whaddaya know, my sig is actually relevant.)

You may still be able to get a capped OnRamp Express from Telstra but that'll cost $999/month.

Telstra's been changing the rules of the game again and redirectors have become a lot more difficult to have installed in towns nearby.

The main cost is the per meg charging where its actually cheaper now to send bandwidth from a capital city to the US than it is to send it to your rural ISP.

You can investigate wireless but there are restrictions on it for which you'll need a telco carriers licence.

Lurk on the OZ-ISP list for a while and get a feel of how other people are doing.
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