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  1. Re:I am offended by mapkinase · · Score: 1 · on Muslim Groups Attempt to Censor Wikipedia
    Once it is not tribal, ethnic, racial, it is not tribalism.

    Being religious is no more tribal, than being a Democrat, Republican, socialist or libertarian.

    Islam is reaching to everybody. In many Ahadeeth Prophet, sal Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam, addresses to the whole humanity.

    As any ideology, Islam has ideological barriers, axioms, denying which means denying Islam.

    Whether its the more moderate kind "My faith is right, but I suppose I'll let you have yours" to the more virulent "My faith is right, and we will only co-exist when you believe as I do", it all boils down to our baser natures."

    I believe Allah has the words just for you in this case
    (addressing to the Prophet, sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam):

    109:1 Say : O ye that reject Faith!
    109:2 I worship not that which ye worship,
    109:3 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
    109:4 And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,
    109:5 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
    109:6 To you be your Way, and to me mine.

    and the famous even among non-Muslims:

    2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.

    "but he was hardly free." He was free to exercise his religion. Everyone has their boundaries. Muslims did not transgress to the affairs of other religious communities and vice versa. Muslims were in power, but they had an obligation to protect non-Muslims - only Muslims served in the army, only Muslims paid the tax (Zakah) for the poor.

    You have to understand that tolerance has limitations. Adherent to every ideology has its boundaries that do not prohibit to communicate, to benefit for each other in the area limited by the boundaries. Take for example, you and me. We have different ideologies, but we both enjoy the environment of communication provided by Slashdot. We share technology, we share amusement of technology, we might share the same food.

    Even within our different ideologies we might find many common things. We just do not have to force each other to accept what is different.
  2. Re:I am offended by mapkinase · · Score: 1 · on Muslim Groups Attempt to Censor Wikipedia
    Once it is not tribal, ethnic, racial, it is not tribalism.

    Being religious is no more tribal, than being a Democrat, Republican, socialist or libertarian.

    Islam is reaching to everybody. In many Ahadeeth Prophet, sal Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam, addresses to the whole humanity.

    As any ideology, Islam has ideological barriers, axioms, denying which means denying Islam.

    Whether its the more moderate kind "My faith is right, but I suppose I'll let you have yours" to the more virulent "My faith is right, and we will only co-exist when you believe as I do", it all boils down to our baser natures."

    I believe Allah has the words just for you in this case
    (addressing to the Prophet, sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam):

    109:1 Say : O ye that reject Faith!
    109:2 I worship not that which ye worship,
    109:3 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
    109:4 And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,
    109:5 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
    109:6 To you be your Way, and to me mine.

    and the famous even among non-Muslims:

    2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.

    "but he was hardly free." He was free to exercise his religion. Everyone has their boundaries. Muslims did not transgress to the affairs of other religious communities and vice versa. Muslims were in power, but they had an obligation to protect non-Muslims - only Muslims served in the army, only Muslims paid the tax (Zakah) for the poor.

    You have to understand that tolerance has limitations. Adherent to every ideology has its boundaries that do not prohibit to communicate, to benefit for each other in the area limited by the boundaries. Take for example, you and me. We have different ideologies, but we both enjoy the environment of communication provided by Slashdot. We share technology, we share amusement of technology, we might share the same food.

    Even within our different ideologies we might find many common things. We just do not have to force each other to accept what is different.
  3. Re:I am offended by mapkinase · · Score: 1 · on Muslim Groups Attempt to Censor Wikipedia
    Islam is OPPOSITE to tribalism. In his (sal Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam) pretty famous Farewell cermon (see e.g), the Prophet (sal Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said:

    All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

    There has been some tribalism in the history of Muslims. Sadly, it is going on now as well. But this is not because of Islam, but in spite of Islam. Arabs vs Turks, Tajiks vs Pushtu, Arabs vs non-Arabs in Sudan - it's all due to lack of knowledge of Islam.

  4. Islam and independent thinking by free+space · · Score: 3, Informative · on Old Islamic Tile Patterns Show Modern Math Insight

    The Quran even declares independant thinking illegal, and "a sure road to hell". See Quran 33:36.


    What drove you to that conclusion?

    Here's a translation of the verse in Question (I also read it in the original Arabic): "It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path"

    It roughly means "believers are not to disobey Allah or his prophet". Why does that makes you think it prohibits independent thinking?

    There are may verses of the Quran and many quotes of the prophet that encourage thinking and reasoning (for example Quran verses 4:82, 47:24, 16:11 to 16:13).

    In fact, a complete branch of Islamic studies is called Ijtihad, which is all about independent thought.

    to quote an online Islamic site: "A scientific approach has been encouraged in the Qur'an with the objective of ascertaining its truthfulness. It provides man with a chance to verify its authenticity." so in Islam, independent thinking is in fact an essential part of the religion.
  5. Islam and Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on The Pseudoscience of Intelligent Design

    Isn't it amazing that Islam is the only religion that does not contradict science

  6. Re:One place to look by Rei · · Score: 4, Interesting · on The Continuing Hunt for PATRIOT Act Abuses

    If you don't believe that you don't understand middle eastern culture

    As an example:

    "A shaheed, which means martyr, is a person who is killed as a result of the efforts he makes in support of Allah's cause. Whether he is felled by an enemy bullet or assassinated or taken prisoner and executed is immaterial. As long as the prime reason for killing him is the effort he is making in support of Islam, then his death is martyrdom. He is a shaheed and a shaheed is admitted into heaven without having to account for his sins."

    the only justice for a murder victim is for the murderer to be put to death

    That is known as "retribution", not prevention. I didn't say that believing in retribution instead of/more than prevention is an invalid concept; only that it is quite hard to validate the death penalty in terms of prevention.

  7. Re:General question... by MJOverkill · · Score: 1 · on Anti-Missile Laser Weapon Successfully Tested
    PR or no I think the root cause is Islam and the us vs. them mentality that it promotes.

    Wow, what an ignorant statement. Please, enlighten yourself before you make such prejudiced remarks

  8. Wrong sites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll · on Update on Playfair

    Go here and tell the terrorists to knock off their senseless aggression.

  9. Arabic numbers were an INDIAN invention..... by Salgak1 · · Score: 4, Informative · on 235,000 Fewer Programmers by 2015
    Actually, the Arabs only POPULARIZED the "Arabic" number system: it came from India, originally, and was adopted by Arab traders, who saw its' ease of use as a clear reason to move to the "Arabic" numbering system.

    Even the Muslims say so. . .

  10. Public Standards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Microsoft Wants to Take on Google
    But remember, God already has some pretty good public standards registered, including: