Domain: javalobby.com
Stories and comments across the archive that link to javalobby.com.
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Re:sources
Another good Java community is http://www.javalobby.com/
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Re:is surprize good?
Every language with some substance will evolve have its "puzzlers".
By the way, here is a great online puzzlers lecture by the two same guys. Its located here: http://www.javalobby.com/av/javapolis/25/bloch-puz zlers?source=archives but unfortunately you'll need to login to see it. Enjoy! -
Swarmstream audio/video presentation available
Here is a good presentation of this technology:
Justin's presentation (Flash). I just watched it earlier today.
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Re:Borland and .NET
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Re:Your wish shall be granted. :-)Java's memory footprint is currently too large to allow numerous java programs of a moderate complexity (and size) to be running simultaneously on the desktop. Until Sun gets VM sharing going, we will not see Java attain a strong desktop presence.
I presume you mean something like this?
No, I think he meant something more in the lines of Dynamically Loaded Classes as Shared Libraries: An approach to Virtual Engine Scalability. Open called "JVM Sharing", try searching javalobby.com.
This is first on my wishlist for Java. Sorely needed. BTW, this is a JVM optimization so anyone can add this to they JVM without breaking compatibility.
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Code, Joe Code. Licensed to bloat.
Ok, I'm not such a neo-Luddite that I would come on slashdot and suggest faster processors are a bad thing. Nor will I participate in a pointless flame-fest vis-a-vis the limitations of x86 architecture. For better or worse, it's what most people are running and it's what most software runs on. So be it.
However, I am going to wonder aloud how long it will be until "1.7 Ghz" becomes a requirement for my office suite.
The brilliant minds who formulated object-oriented code, modular design, and reuse could not possibly have fathomed the current state of affairs. The anti-OO crowd claims that reuse is a pipe dream, but I've got a hard drive full of mature products built by reusing and extending code from previous versions. And I do mean full. Those apps are getting huge.
Without even checking, I can imagine the dreamers at Javalobby are already wondering if 1.7 Ghz is what it will take to make Java viable for client apps. How do I know this? Am I psychic? No. I just remember them saying the same things when 600 Mhz and 1 Ghz processors came out.
At some point, we're going to realize that bigger software is not always better. I've found my personal salvation programming for the Palm platform.
As for desktop and client apps, I'm worried. I'm worried that we're using fast hardware to fix inefficient code (when it should be the other way around). I'm worried that the stupid Office paperclip will develop speech recognition capabilities and will deactivate my CD player to verbally ask me if I need help through my headphones.
Perhaps there is a solution. We should consider keeping this kind of speed out of the hands of developers for a few years. If I ran a software company, I would want my developers restricted to about 333 Mhz at the most. Any performance problems will become readily apparent. They can have all the RAM they want (speeds up the compiler), but I want raw CPU horsepower kept to grandma/grandpa levels.
I know this runs counter to current trends, but I think it's a least worth consideration. We have only slow software to lose. -
Java Community Process... Yeah Right!
In his speech, Alan Baratz (of Sun) implies they're considering moving Mozilla to something like the Sun Community Process... To see what the Java community thinks of the SCP, check out this article on Javalobby.com.
The Sun Community Process has been very little use to anyone, even Sun, because Sun is mainly ignoring the Community. I certainly hope AOL isn't dumb enough to do this to Mozilla. As one poster on the Javalobby article points out, Mozilla is actually not doing that badly, outside of the press... -
Exactly
I like your attitude. This story is a bit old, and it was on the Java Lobby website some time ago. In the replies to that story there were a lot of things that sounded like "This isn't open or free. If it isn't I don't like it. Sun should give me all its technology for free, because I deserve it." A lot of people seem to have this attitude, but I personally don't see what is wrong with a company charging for what they invent. This is a capitalistic society after all. But I imagine I am rambling on and complaining for no reason at all. Just my oppinion. I don't mean to offend anyone or start any wars about OSS or anything. Sorry I am anonymous, but I don't feel like getting an account.