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Dimes aren't marching.
Support a very christian ideal of helping babies inutero
Support science that is often used to kill or dehumanize those same babies thus alienating a large portion of your donar base.
Profit?
https://www.lifeissues.org/200...
http://www.roseandherlily.com/...Kind of makes you wonder why their donations are declining. Maybe they need to figure out a better way to appeal the the sympathy atheists naturally have to not yet human blobs of flesh.
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Re:In a big tent, turnabout is fair play.Tackhead> wrote:
Yeah, because a few dozen women would never die if abortions were legal.
Now that I've matched your inflammatory statement with my own, let's get back to what seems to be the issue: the theocratic leanings of this administration's supporters. Several times, posters on Slashdot will paint Pro-Lifers as religious people wanting to force their view on the world. Although there are many of them, not all Pro-Lifers advocate an end to contraceptive abortion for theological reasons. They have looked at the issue from a scientific view and can see that the embryo/fetus is a separate living organism from the human female. It is also scientifically proven that this embryo/fetus is human, too.
Many Pro-Choicers feel comfortable making value judgments on other human's lives, despite that being a throwback to many of the dark times in human history. (Nazi's "master race" ideals, slave owners' views that black people weren't really human, etc.) Objectively, though, Pro-Choicers have little justifications for keeping abortion legal.
The argument that pregnant women will harm themselves by seeking illegal abortions holds as much water as saying that "no trespassing" signs & high fences harm trespassers because those would-be trespassers can fall while climbing over the high fences. Advocating killing the embryo/fetus (a human being) to guard against the harm the mother (another human being) might do to herself is a trade off of evils. Instead, women need equality and the power in their relationships to keep from being `stuck` with a pregnancy to begin with.
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Re:Life starts at conception
t's flame bait because you don't know if it's more or less promising research.
I'm sorry I didn't post the multitudes of papers available on the subject. I figured anyone who can get on the internet and view slashdot was fully capable of using Google to do a little research to backup my claim.
So if thousands of well-educated people in their field say this shows promise and someone outside their field says no it's pointless then either they're clueless or they're trying to start a flame war.
Oh, so I must be the only one who came up with adult stem cells as an alternative? There are thousands of scientists who believe adult stem cells are the better alternative. While embryonic stem cell research makes a Slashdot headline for actually doing something, adult stem cell research has had MANY results already.
http://www.marrow.org/MEDICAL/diseases_treatable_b y_stem_cell_transplants.html
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=860
http://www.lifeissues.org/cloningstemcell/adultste msuccess.htm
http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/bpnews.asp?ID=19641
http://www.stemcellresearch.org/facts/prentice.htm
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2002/2918stem_cel ls.html
etc.
So, with incredible results already being done, why focus on the back-burner? It's like continuing to research the vacuum tube when we've got transistors. -
Re:cloning a human being is unethicalLooks like your pride is always two steps ahead of your logic.
I didn't say your inputs were unwelcome. I pointed out the context of the discussion.
I was doing a reductio ad-absurdum on the argument with the other guy.
For evidence, consider this old post.
Embryos and fetuses aren't just clumps of cells. Note how this fetus behaves when you kill it:
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The plural of fetus is not fetii, it is fetuses.
At this stage this baby is kicking, moving its arms and has likely urinated.
plunges a scissors into the neck at the base of the skull. This injures or severs the spinal cord and results in instant decerebrate rigidity, that is, a spastic arching of the back
We might note the happening at times, of what is called an "oops" delivery. This is when he has delivered all of the child except the head and is preparing to kill him, when the mother gives one big push and the head pops out. Now he has a living child in his arms, and he says, "Oops."
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Re:science has a place but God is greaterWhat does infants have to do with abortions? Abortions are not murder.
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Unlike your conscience is irredemably seared, you'd agree the fetus above is human.
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At this stage this baby is kicking, moving its arms and has likely urinated.
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plunges a scissors into the neck at the base of the skull. This injures or severs the spinal cord and results in instant decerebrate rigidity, that is, a spastic arching of the back
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We might note the happening at times, of what is called an "oops" delivery. This is when he has delivered all of the child except the head and is preparing to kill him, when the mother gives one big push and the head pops out. Now he has a living child in his arms, and he says, "Oops."
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The embryos that are aborted are not even self-aware for crying out loud!
Now, at what point did the embryo become human? Answer: it always was - leave it alone. -
Certain types
But I'm still pro-choice. I would advocate against unplugging certain types of AI. I consider myself a humanist. Oh, and I'm anti-death penalty.
You seem to have a informed opinions on several issues
At this stage this baby is kicking, moving its arms and has likely urinated.
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plunges a scissors into the neck at the base of the skull. This injures or severs the spinal cord and results in instant decerebrate rigidity, that is, a spastic arching of the back
We might note the happening at times, of what is called an "oops" delivery. This is when he has delivered all of the child except the head and is preparing to kill him, when the mother gives one big push and the head pops out. Now he has a living child in his arms, and he says, "Oops."
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You were an embryo once
mean a developing embryo should be given the same rights as me until someone can conclusively disprove the existence of the god,
You too were an embryo once, and utilized your right to live.
Here is one way that right can be taken away:
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At this stage this baby is kicking, moving its arms and has likely urinated.
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plunges a scissors into the neck at the base of the skull. This injures or severs the spinal cord and results in instant decerebrate rigidity, that is, a spastic arching of the back
We might note the happening at times, of what is called an "oops" delivery. This is when he has delivered all of the child except the head and is preparing to kill him, when the mother gives one big push and the head pops out. Now he has a living child in his arms, and he says, "Oops."
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