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because i'm the founder of www.LiveChatConcepts.com which features 14 websites around live sporting events such as http://www.livebaseballchat.com/ http://www.livefootballchat.com/ http://www.livehockeychat.com/ http://www.livebasketballchat.com/ etc etc - i see a lot of these sites streaming media (we dont stream any media, just provide chats that start and close with each event) I can understand why IP owners are trying to get them shut down as they pay a lot for the rights to stream football/basketball/soccer etc. When people use blogger/justin.tv etc as a tool to bypass these PPV's you have to understand that is moeny being taken out of their pocket. You might say well the NFL makes 9b a year thats plenty, maybe but my neighbour works for a stadium and if you dont pay...he doesnt get paid if you know what i mean. So whilst it's easy to poke fun of the courts going after blogger (though not sure why they didnt go after justin.tv etc is beyond me) the point is what should they be doing to recoup their money? Any Thoughts?

Will it have a virtual keyboard though? I cant wait for these to be released to use for watching baseball games and chatting on http://www.livebaseballchat.com/ but the only problem is that with a netbook and wifi i'm not sure what additional value this is going to be offering. I think i'd miss the keyboard for typing. Cheers, Dean

As founder of http://www.livebaseballchat.com I think you could have done a better job of including more references to http://www.livebaseballchat.com into your post.

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As founder of http://www.livebaseballchat.com I think you could have done a better job of including more references to http://www.livebaseballchat.com into your post.

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As founder of http://www.livebaseballchat.com I think you could have done a better job of including more references to http://www.livebaseballchat.com into your post.

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As founder of http://www.livebaseballchat.com I think you could have done a better job of including more references to http://www.livebaseballchat.com into your post.

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As founder of http://www.livebaseballchat.com I think you could have done a better job of including more references to http://www.livebaseballchat.com into your post.

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"As a content provider (I'm the founder of http://www.livebaseballchat.com/ stuff like this annoys the hell out of me." - by dean.collins (862044)
on Monday June 15, @07:54PM (#28342445

You probably DO try to stall it, but, when your adbanner hosters "F-YOU-OVER" as this article seems to imply? Well, then it's time for ME to do something about it (as have folks like Opera w/ their built-in toolsets for this, & folks like NoScript &/or Adblock for Mozilla FireFox products).

Also? I have to note, your scripts & adbanners cut into MY LINE SPEED, which I pay for out of my pocket - I want ALL OF WHAT I PAY FOR, regardless of what your standpoint is, & that obviously, is YOUR INCOME... so, I block your ads out. IF you see the security guide I authored below (which shows up by the truckload on say, GOOGLE, by querying "HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000"? You'll see I am one of the folks warning others about bogus banners, & did so years before THIS incident & others occurred, because of javascript's F'd up DOM - I knew this WAS coming!)

So, to do so to protect even IE?? Well - You can always use a HOSTS file! Why?? Read on:

The beauty of that is, IS that HOSTS files (custom ones especially for THIS type of lunacy occurring) extend to EVERY web-bound app you have (unlike Adblock/AdBlock Plus, that only work in Mozilla/FireFox products)

So - think programs like Email also, where HTML is used (alongside scripting, the REAL "problem" (with bad adbanners for example, it IS the "delivery mechanism" basically - because it's truly the "root of all evil" here most times, & anyone can verify that statement @ SECUNIA or SECURITYFOCUS.COM for example, from their last 4-5 yrs. of data or more on records of exploits they have)).

HOSTS files provide not only security benefits here, but, also speedup benefits too, as a bonus (by blocking ads you gain speed, but blocking scripting even gets you more (only use it on sites you trust OR cannot do without to stay safe(r) vs. bad scripted pages/bad scripted adbanners)).

HOSTS files, customized ones, work here... & it's a solution that's easily edited/added to, + understood by users, as a bonus - Because as one of my best pals whom I 'turned onto' these has stated, verbatim? "All you need to do, is know how to use notepad.exe, how to read english, & to get a decent one to start with - as well as sources that update the data one needs to blockout bogus sites" (& I list a few below!)

The one I use here is populated with my own lists for HOSTS files since 1997 (30.000 entries long, mostly for adbanner blocking @ first 1997-2001), then later for security 2002 onwards...

I extended it further (to 654,000 unique entries currently & yes, I have to stop the Windows DNS client for that, it's 14mb for Windows NT/2000/XP/Server 2003, & up to 19mb (using 0.0.0.0) OR 26mb (using 127.0.0.1) for Windows VISTA/Server 2008/Windows7) per sources like:

1.) StopBadWare.org
2.) SRI
3.) Dancho Danchev's ZDNet Blog
4.) SpyBot "Search & Destroy" Immunize lists
5.) PLUS/LASTLY, using other reputable known HOSTS files shown @ wikipedia.com, here -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_file [wikipedia.org]

All DAILY updated here, or nearly daily.

(& kept free of repeat entries via a program I wrote to do that, as well as alphabetize the entries, plus change them to a "faster up off disk into memory" internal schema for blocking out bad sites & adbanners, by going from the larger, slower 127.0.0.1 default loopback adapter IP, to either 0.0.0.0 (for VISTA/Server2k8/Windows 7, a mistake on MS' part I mentioned to they here -> http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/02/09/recognizing-improv

As a content provider (I'm the founder of http://www.livebaseballchat.com/ stuff like this annoys the hell out of me.

I mean we go to all the effort to secure passwords, code tc - then our users are infected with ads they view....

We were sourcing our banner ads from Pubmatic but after a two 'problem ads' about 3 weeks I've cut it back to Google + banners we sell internall direct to end companies.

I dont have any answers but if you have a problem with a website be sure to let the content owners know - they might not even realise they have a problem.

Cheers,
Dean Collins
http://www.livebaseballchat.com/

As a content provider (I'm the founder of http://www.livebaseballchat.com/ stuff like this annoys the hell out of me.

I mean we go to all the effort to secure passwords, code tc - then our users are infected with ads they view....

We were sourcing our banner ads from Pubmatic but after a two 'problem ads' about 3 weeks I've cut it back to Google + banners we sell internall direct to end companies.

I dont have any answers but if you have a problem with a website be sure to let the content owners know - they might not even realise they have a problem.

Cheers,
Dean Collins
http://www.livebaseballchat.com/