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I've given more than one open source content management solution a spin and IMHO, LogiCreate does a better job than most at form-content separation. I think their business model is to give away most parts but then charge for the web-store component, but go check it our for yourself: www.logicreate.com

I've given more than one open source content management solution a spin and IMHO, LogiCreate does a better job than most at form-content separation. I think their business model is to give away most parts but then charge for the web-store component, but go check it our for yourself: www.logicreate.com

Got an app that causes a fatal library error in PHP because of a syntax error in an include? It'll die. Silently. At runtime, i.e. when your customer is using it.

This is a design issue, not a PHP issue. With a proper controller system (not part of PHP, but can be designed in PHP with things like LogiCreate) this is simply not true. Use a user-defined function to do the includes and have it trap the error, or dig deeper into error-handling in PHP.

This is the result of lazy or unclued-in thinking on the part of a PHP programmer, not PHP itself. While I wish PHP provided better ways of handling this directly, it's certainly possible to put together good design in PHP to handle things like this.

The author's name of the original post is a link to something called LogiCreate, a commercial content management system. There's a news announcement on that page about the educational version, but no link to it.

Meanwhile, I'm curious about what they mean by open source. There's a few notes about an LCPL open source license, but I don't see any terms for the license anywhere. The closest is this explanation that it's similar to the Qt license.

I wonder what the terms of the license are???

The author's name of the original post is a link to something called LogiCreate, a commercial content management system. There's a news announcement on that page about the educational version, but no link to it.

Meanwhile, I'm curious about what they mean by open source. There's a few notes about an LCPL open source license, but I don't see any terms for the license anywhere. The closest is this explanation that it's similar to the Qt license.

I wonder what the terms of the license are???

Thanks for the kind words. We'll buy you some more pizza next time you're in town. :)

In all seriousness, we could use more contributors and testers for LC - all you slashdotters into PHP are welcome to join us at http://www.logicreate.com

Our own http://www.logicreate.com product is an example of a complex system which makes PHP development of large scale projects easier than you'd think, based on the tediousness of most online PHP tutorials.

Yes this is primarily a shameless plug, but rather than just saying 'PHP is not a toy' I figured I'd give an actual example. :)

>What happens when we have a problem that my sysadmin can't solve?

I live in Michigan (outside of Detriot) where there are tons of consulting companies who specialize in providing these types of services for companies. One that comes to mind is located in Ann Arbor, MI called "The Linux Box" which is a firm that specializes in nothing but helping companies use and maintain Linux in their corporate environments.

I am from Mississippi originally, and you are right in that finding a Unix geek there would be extremely difficult unless you are in a bigger city (which there aren't that many).

Something I like to ask IT managers is, "The last time you had a problem with an NT server did you solve it by calling Microsoft?" I have probably spoken to hundreds of people in this type of position and I haven't gotten a YES yet. Why? The main reason is that Microsoft doesn't provide support directly for its OS. I sold hardware for about 5 years and everytime we sold a PC, we (being the manufacturer) were required to support the operating system and whatever we sold them. Sometimes the on-site firm we used as support had to go out and try to fix it. If we called Microsoft for support we never got an aswer or a bug fix. We ALWAYS had to resort to forums and online news posting to solve the problems, or contact the manufacturer of the products we used.

I guess my point is that Microsoft has done a great job at convincing the IT managers they have support, but the truth is they don't. It is another illusion Microsoft has everyone buying into.

I do mention the numbers about apache and others though. As someone else pointed out "businesses use what everyone else is using" and this is a key point to selling it to non-technical people who really don't know any better. Their mentality is "If it is good enough for the goose, it is good enough for the gander".

I met with the executive vice president of a very large advertising agency this past week about using our companies product which has been built using open source technologies. During our introductions he kept mentioning Windows and ASP pages. I didn't really know where he stood as far as using a product built to run o pen source technologies. So I asked him, "I am going to mention two words to you and you tell me what comes to mind........Open Source".

He thought a minute and said, "Well, stability, scalability, more functional, and ease of use". I don't know where he got the ease of use but everything else he said I couldn't believe.