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Re:Don't forget earlier stories about her.
I am not an American but I always assumed dumpster diving was legal as long as you weren't going onto private property (such as jumping a fence).
A quick search pulls up:
Almost every human activity ultimately manifests itself in waste products and ... any individual may understandably wish to maintain the confidentiality of his refuse. State v. Smith, 510 P.2d 793, 798 (Alaska 1973) (nonetheless holding that police could search garbage without warrant).
The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that the police may legally search, without a search warrant, trash or garbage that individuals put out for collection. California v. Greenwood, 486 U.S. 35 (1988). Read the case here.
The argument has been made that garbage from different residences is "promptly intermingled with other garbage in the truck such that its origin can no longer be identified." California v. Rooney, 483 U.S. 307, 322 (1987) (White, J., citing respondent's argument).
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Re:IDS
I tried DenyHosts and found it disapointing. These days I use login_sentry which has been improved by a friend of mine. Check it out, cross platform too (/etc/hosts.deny).
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Re:Highly annoying
login_sentry is an updated version of sshd_sentry:
http://www.lumiere.net/~j/login_sentry/login_sentr y
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Re:The Supreme Court ruled..
That once your garbage hits the curb, its public domain.
The only reference to this that I could track down was the following Supreme Court ruling:
http://www.lumiere.net/~fib/trash/5337i15.txt
An excerpt:The Supreme Court, Justice White, held that defendants did
The problem is that the case doesn't involve dumpster diving. Essentially, the cops suspected that a guy was a drug dealer. He put out the garbage, they picked it up and went through it, and got a search warrant based upon the fact that they found paraphernalia among his trash. When they served the warrant, they found narcotics in his house and busted him.
not have reasonable expectation of privacy protected by the Fourth
Amendment in garbage which they placed in opaque bags outside their
house for collection by trash collector.
There are two obvious and different interpretations of this ruling:
1) When you place your garbage outside your house [I saw no mention of refuse from businesses], it's not illegal for anyone to take it.
or,
2) When you place your garbage outside your house, it's not illegal for the police to take it and use what they find to obtain a search warrant.
IANAL, but I lean toward #2. This was a 4th Amendment case (illegal search and seizure) as best as I can tell, not a trespassing or theft case. I looked, but couldn't find any other related rulings or court opinions. I'd be interested in seeing em, though, if others can dig up more.