Domain: mcso.org
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Re:personally, i like this method better...
The MCSO has an Animal Crimes Investigation Unit. As much as I wish that were the name of a new show on CBS, it's not
:/http://www.mcso.org/Mash/Anima...
The MCSO:ACIU has "real" police staff, but is supplemented by posse members -- volunteer deputies, who do MCSO "easy lifting" like traffic control, mall parking lot patrols, and serving court orders to nonviolent offenders and deadbeat dads.
It's still important to remember that the MCSO "..has the responsibility of providing basic patrol, investigative and detention services to contract towns & cities and to the unincorporated communities within the county." -- meaning it just serves everything in Maricopa County that isn't a real city
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Re:WTF?
Who the fuck cares about facial recognition, I say arm the citizens and save money and time.
Go to Somalia and find out how good that works out.
Why go to Somalia? You don't have to travel outside of the United States. (And many countries have one or more of these sorts of laws.)
America's Toughest Sheriff, Joe Arpaio
As chief law enforcement officer for the county, Arpaio continues to reduce crime with hard-hitting enforcement methods. . . . The posse, whose ranks have increased to 3000 members under Arpaio, is the nation's largest volunteer posse. Posse men and women help in search and rescue and other traditional police work as well as in special operations like rounding up deadbeat parents, fighting prostitution, patrolling malls during holidays, and investigating animal cruelty complaints. The posse's contributions are invaluable and essentially free to taxpayers.
Wait, there's more! (This sort of law is common in the US.)
"901.18 Officer may summon assistance. -- A peace officer making a lawful arrest may command the aid of persons he deems necessary to make the arrest. A person commanded to aid shall render assistance as directed by the officer. A person commanded to aid a peace officer shall have the same authority to arrest as that peace officer and shall not be civilly liable for any reasonable conduct in rendering assistance to that officer." --- Advisory Legal Opinion - AGO 75-200
In most cases, this means you.
That's not all. If you are an American male, you are probably in the militia - US Federal, and state - even if you don't know it.
41.050. The militia of the state shall include all able-bodied citizens and all other able-bodied residents, who, in the case of the unorganized militia and the Missouri reserve military force, shall be more than seventeen years of age and not more than sixty-four, and such other persons as may upon their own application be enrolled or commissioned therein, and who, in the case of the organized militia, shall be within the age limits and possess the physical and mental qualifications prescribed by law or regulations for the reserve components of the Armed Forces of the United States, except that this section shall not be construed to require militia service of any persons specifically exempted by the laws of the United States or the state of Missouri. The maximum age requirement may be waived by the adjutant general on a case-by-case basis.
Federal: Sec. 311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied
males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section
313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a
declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States
and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the
National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are -
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard
and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members -
Sheriff Joe has been doing it for years
Maricopa County Sheriff's Office has been posting mugshots for years. I still have the screencap that one time a co-worker got busted (and no, he never came back to work)...
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Re:Unproportional
No, it's a jail.
http://www.mcso.org/submenu.asp?file=tentcity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tent_City#.22Tent_Cit y.22:_Maricopa_County_Jail_Modification.2C_Phoenix .2C_AZ.
Note however, there are convicts there serving sentences of up to one year. If you are sentenced to more than one year you are sent to a full fledged prison. That might be the source of some of your confusion. -
Re:Until the GPS signal is intercepted
>Triangulation requires heavier gear than that.
and in 5 years?
I can think of a lot of technologies that have been around for five years that are still as big as they were ten years before that. The iridium cell phones and satellite equipment we deal with at work haven't changed in size since the beginning. It takes a substantial level of consumer demand to shrink and improve technology...that's the other side of Moore's Law that the technocratic elite will admit.
but it would call home, to the ip of the correctional facility or such other agency. No need to see what's inside the message to know the kind of device making the call.
Assuming this is IP based, you'd have to be on the same IP network in promiscuous mode to see connections originating from the monitoring device to the facility. Most secure implementations of this would involve tunneling in some aspect, so good luck being on that network. You'd have to basically hack one of the devices or have detailed specifications of its operation. Even if you could do that, you'd only see IP addresses, which don't correlate in anyway to what you'd be able to see by triangulating a possible transmitter--the layer of encryption, the first in the case of GPRS, is too low.
Now, in the unlikely event of actually being able to do all this, the equipment and knowledge needed and the laws you'd be breaking would make the entire operation out of reach of the two kids at Starbucks. I can't imagine a possible scenario where, except by perhaps some extremely fanatical vigilante/victims rights group that would go to these lengths.
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Re:Same as always
Dude. You missed the point. The original
poster's point was that there are *unintended*
consequences of some creative sentencing,
not that people on probation are sometimes
not following the rules.
Your logic reminds me of how this guy thinks. That guy ain't cool. Think on that. -
Re:I would feel safer if...
This ruling doesn't stop the problem, just the live feeds. You can see mugshots of everyone that is currently in the booking center at the the Madison St. jail right now.
http://www.mcso.org/submenu.asp?file=MugIndex/
These people haven't even seen a judge yet, and this link posts your full name, race and birthdate. Crimes for everything from solicitation to homicide are posted for all accused.
I'd rather have the grainy web cam if I got locked up. -
Maricopa County Sheriff's Office
I used to be an officer in the jail system this article is talking about. Sheriff Joe Arpaio is a total media whore. He is a semi-decent lawman but is way overrated. He spends most of his day trying to find some reason to get in front of a camera. Almost anyone I asked who worked at MCSO before he was the sheriff said that he is much worse than the previous guy. MCSO has great officers (both Deputies and Detention Officers- jail gaurds) but the sheriff makes it a horrible place to work.
A great website about Sheriff Joe- http://www.arpaio.com/
While the webcam has been down for a while... you can still see booking photos (mug shots) for many people who were recently arrested on MCSO's website- http://www.mcso.org/submenu.asp?file=MugIndex -
Sheriff Joe ArpaioThis is county with America's Toughest Sheriff
I especially like this:
The same is true for his chain gangs which work six days a week contributing thousands of dollars of free labor to the community.
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Re:Complex Codes!
Don't forget:
Lots and lots of fat people (you walk down the street and it's unbelievable).
Heh. I'm in Tempe, right next to ASU. For every 2 fat people, you get 3 really, REALLY hot college babes. Can't complain here.
Unlivably hot & dry weather, nearly all year long.
Oh, hell yeah. Why do you think I moved out here? Can't STAND cold. Ugh.
2nd lowest % of students graduating to college in US.
Sad, innit? Something should be done about that...
Near universal gun ownership.
Yeah, that REALLY weirded me out when I first came here. About one out of every 5 people is walking around with an openly displayed firearm. Felt like I was in the Wild West. Oh wait... I am (just 150 years late).
More speed than a Hell's Angels convention.
Yeah... something should be done about this one, too. Like maybe legalizing LSD and Marijuana, so people don't have to get fucked up with nasty shit that just happens to be easier to make and hide.
A quality of life that rivals Las Vegas.
Eh, can't complain TOO bad.
Get burned?
White supremacists here, there, and everywhere.
Yeah... something should be done about that. I personally think the meth, the racism, and the lack of education are all part of the same problem - having a jackass control freak for a sheriff doesn't help, either.
Eh well. You take the good with the bad, no matter where you go.