Domain: nsbasic.com
Stories and comments across the archive that link to nsbasic.com.
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NSB/AppStudio for web apps?
This might be a step up from what you want to do, but NSB/AppStudio might be a suggestion. The IDE is available in 19 languages (Dutch is complete, Danish partially). All the menus, prompts and error message are localized.
It creates apps which run on iOS and Android devices, which makes it more fun and relevant for kids starting out. They can take the apps with them and run them on their iPhone/iPad/iPod/etc.
It uses a programming language with a drag and drop design screen, instead of a cartoon (like Scratch) interface, so it's a more serious tool. Programming languages currently supported are JavaScript and BASIC. (There's some English there, learning keywords, but I don' t think that's so bad).
Runs on Mac or PC.
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Re:Why BASIC? What for?
There is a Visual Basic for smartphones (compiles to iPhone and Android) - NS Basic. I've been using their stuff for 10 years (when they did the same thing for the Palm platform), and they're quite good.
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Early interview still more interesting
There's only one interview with Stroustrup that's worth reading: http://www.nsbasic.com/desktop/info/interview.shtml
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Re:Obligatory quote (his 1998 "interview")
Someone had to mention his other famous interview
As it says on the bottom of your link: http://www.nsbasic.com/ce/info/interview.shtml, that interview is a hoax. -
Obligatory quote (his 1998 "interview")
Someone had to mention his other famous interview.
The way I see C++ these days: it might be your only choice if you are building a mass-market "horizontal" app (like, say, mozilla), and even then I would consider alternatives such as Objective C or plain ANSI C. But for "enterprise" apps, it is absolutely dreadful! Like someone said, it is the language with the most error-inducing features.
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Interview with Stroustrup
How can any not read this interview with Stroustrup? http://www.nsbasic.com/ce/info/interview.shtml
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Obligatory reminder of the other Interview
"I Did It For You All..."
After all these years, I have my doubts this interview was really a hoax.
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Re:VB Alternatives
Or NS Basic/Desktop... http://www.nsbasic.com/desktop
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Yes, nHTTPd is actually useful
The Newton webserver- nHTTPd- part of the Newton Personal Data Sharing (NPDS) system has been mentioned on here a few times over the last 3 or 4 years I've been reading Slashdot.
Most of the time, I imagine that people see NPDS as a novelty, like running Apache on WinCE. And to some who run it, it is just a novelty. However, unlike some Htttpd for CE, NPDS actually manages to be useful. It serves your Dates, Names, Todo and Notes data, accessing the object-oriented database that makes up the Newton system for data storage. Of course, it can also serve regular HTML pages. I've actually seen a couple organizations that were using a Newton as a drop-in solution to managing contacts and meeting schedules. Incredible!
I suppose someone could write a C++ CGI that access the WinCE DBs for the analogous data on a WinCE/PocketPC device, but then you're stuck doing it in C++, which if a major pain in the ass compared to NewtonScript. Does anyone know of NSBasic (started on the Newton, of course :P) or a similar RAD language for the PocketPC can access the internal WinCE dbs?
In other news, someone is getting me a 2100 in exchange for attempting to develop a Squeak VM for the Newton! I recently had to sell my super-nice Newton 2100u setup, and I've missed my Newt a great deal. I guess it's one of those things where you don't understand it unless you've had a Newt yourself... but in my switch attempt to an iPAQ and more recently a Jornada 720, I've been left wanting in a lot of respects, and really can't wait to get my Newton back!