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"There's no vote fraud!"

Again, BULLSHIT. How can you tell if there's vote fraud if you don't ID the voter? You can't.

Republicans know there is voter fraud. In the first person. https://www.denverpost.com/201...

http://occupydemocrats.com/201...

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=946...

http://nhpr.org/post/mancheste...

https://www.arktimes.com/arkan...

http://archive.jsonline.com/ne...

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/...

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/0...

Yesiree, Republicans know full well that there is voter fraud, and that is because so much Votter Fraud is performed by Republicans - highly ranked ones even - And your wet dream of a voter ID is going to do nothing, not one thing but eliminate a trite old chestnut of a talking point.

Personally, I'm in favor of voter ID - but given that Republicans bring it up every election cycle like it is the cure blessed by God himself for them thar godless commiecrats and their letting them chocolate people - who always commit fraud, amirite? - is just Bullshit - to use your term.

Phase it in, make it free ( hey, maybe we can get that Russian Oligarch who funnels money to Republicans through the NRA to chip in ) and start long before elections.

But how is that going to actually stop Republican election fraud? Or is that Okay because the Republican party has shown it has a lock on the moral high ground?

http://www.snopes.com/anti-tru...
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nb...
http://www.alternet.org/electi...
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the...
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/1...
https://www.rt.com/viral/36431...
http://occupydemocrats.com/201...
http://www.nytimes.com/video/u...
http://mashable.com/2016/03/12...
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/...
https://thinkprogress.org/sher...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fb...

Don't act as if this is some one-sided thing. Please.

Look at the vile hatred that was spewed from one side in particular.

http://www.snopes.com/anti-tru...
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nb...
http://www.alternet.org/electi...
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the...
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/1...
https://www.rt.com/viral/36431...
http://occupydemocrats.com/201...
http://www.nytimes.com/video/u...
http://mashable.com/2016/03/12...
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/...
https://thinkprogress.org/sher...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fb...

Don't act as if this is some one-sided thing. Please.

The vast majority of people on either side are completely peaceful. But when you look at the retoric that was spewed by one candidate in particular, it's not hard to see why people are angry.

Also, what happened to the whole "rigged election" thing? Seems like the ol' Trumpster clammed up on that subject right around November 8th, didn't he?

http://www.snopes.com/anti-tru...
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nb...
http://www.alternet.org/electi...
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the...
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/1...
https://www.rt.com/viral/36431...
http://occupydemocrats.com/201...
http://www.nytimes.com/video/u...
http://mashable.com/2016/03/12...
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/...
https://thinkprogress.org/sher...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fb...

Don't act as if this is some one-sided thing. Please.

http://www.snopes.com/anti-tru...
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nb...
http://www.alternet.org/electi...
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the...
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/1...
https://www.rt.com/viral/36431...
http://occupydemocrats.com/201...
http://www.nytimes.com/video/u...
http://mashable.com/2016/03/12...
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/...
https://thinkprogress.org/sher...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fb...

Don't act as if this is some one-sided thing. Please.

http://www.snopes.com/anti-tru...
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nb...
http://www.alternet.org/electi...
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the...
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/1...
https://www.rt.com/viral/36431...
http://occupydemocrats.com/201...
http://www.nytimes.com/video/u...
http://mashable.com/2016/03/12...
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/...
https://thinkprogress.org/sher...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fb...

Don't act as if this is some one-sided thing. Please.

http://www.snopes.com/anti-tru...
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nb...
http://www.alternet.org/electi...
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the...
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/1...
https://www.rt.com/viral/36431...
http://occupydemocrats.com/201...
http://www.nytimes.com/video/u...
http://mashable.com/2016/03/12...
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/...
https://thinkprogress.org/sher...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fb...

Don't act as if this is some one-sided thing. Please.

"We tried that already with the Occupy movement. It ended up being judo'd into supporting those rat bastard "Tea Party" conservixtremists.

Sorry, but there's simply NO WAY you were not on SOME drug when you typed that!

The "Occupy Movement" was synthetic - it was setup by organizers affiliated with the Democrats who recruited and/or encouraged a bunch of losers to "take to the streets" and "occupy" a few parks - but was NEVER intended to succeed in doing ANYTHING to the Wall St. Bankers who FUNDED Barack Obama. "Occupy Wall Street" was an attempted leftist-populist SMOKESCREEN sponsored in many ways by the Democrats who, you will note, spoke glowingly about the movement and refused to enforce many laws against its actions (for as long as it was useful). It was an attempt to create a counter-balance to the TEA partiers on newscasts through an election cycle (originally, to get Obama through 2012, but now bits are trying to re-ignite for 2014). The "occupiers" were "useful idiots" who undoubtably stood for many OPPOSITE THINGS from the TEA Party, but did not understand that their true masters would never let them be effective; that was NOT the plan. They were NOT "judo'd into supporting" the TEA Party. .. the individual "occupiers" were just used by the politicians and their friends at ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC etc for an election cycle and then were discarded when the tactic failed to convince middle America that the TEA PArty was equally synthetic and obnoxious. Every polluted park, drug overdose, rape, smashed window, etc just further highlighted the complete CONTRAST with the TEA Partiers who did no none of those things.

"The problem is that it is angry average Joe against teams of highly intelligent, highly motivated, professional weasels working for the big two parties"

No. The problem is [1] that the many "angry average Joe" characters you cite are angry about DIFFERENT THINGS and want to go in ENTIRELY different directions for solutions, and [2] that the government is now SO big and involved in EVERYTHING that polititians can easily create a myriad of "wedge issues" to get various "angry average Joes" to support them (beacause of those "wedges") as they harm those Joes with other policies. The "Angry Average Joe" who goes to "occupy" thinks the solution is Marxism (even though that has NEVER worked). The "Angry Average Joe" who joins the TEA Party wants to go back to the small government with limited authority our founders gave us (which DID work). These positions CANNOT be merged; they are POLAR OPPOSITES. This gets gamed by politicians who then argue over things like abortion, gay marriage, global warming, etc as a way to drag people to their sides REGARDLESS of issues of Marxism vs Freedom (and, yes, those two are OPPOSITES... you CANNOT re-distribute wealth without first STEALING it at gunpoint)