Domain: psyc.eu
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Comments · 8
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Try PSYC?
I'm told that PSYC is much better than XMPP -- both on the protocol level, the way the stream is decoded, and the ability to scale.
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Re:EFnet is already paralyzed
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Re:Federation?
Given that the interserver federation in xmpp doesn't scale well ( see http://about.psyc.eu/Jabber#Scalability ), I'm guessing the thought of federation is too scary an option for facebook. 60% of the packets in an xmpp network are presence packets and xmpp uses an extremely naive way of distributing these (i.e. it sends an xmpp presence message for each user in the buddy list, even if many of the users are on the same xmpp server and the presence packet could be only sent once for all of them and exploded by the server at the other end). This probably wouldn't be too much of an issue if not many people have buddies on other xmpp servers, but could be disastrous if it becomes popular. I'm guessing they'd also be reticent to do this because it would decrease their lockin of users, if you don't need a facebook account to talk to facebook users why would you bother using facebook.
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Re:Bandwidth and Hosting
Hopefully the Google Wave protocol developers are taking at serious look at what the PSYC people have to say about Jabber and XML. (Among other things PSYC can currently be used as a more efficient server-to-server protocol for XMPP servers. Those pages discuss what they see as flaws in XMPP's design which make PSYC more suited than XMPP for that use.)
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Re:Bandwidth and Hosting
Hopefully the Google Wave protocol developers are taking at serious look at what the PSYC people have to say about Jabber and XML. (Among other things PSYC can currently be used as a more efficient server-to-server protocol for XMPP servers. Those pages discuss what they see as flaws in XMPP's design which make PSYC more suited than XMPP for that use.)
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Re:Actually, pretty funny
I was looking into the ideas you discussed and found this page on distributed social networks. It has a lot of links, but no indications of any products.
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XMPP has some problems
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Decentralized Social Networking
Count me in on this one.
We have a decentralized trust metric system built into http://about.psyc.eu/
which so far we use for surfing profiles along the social network - but we
are actually a messaging protocol and looking into using trust metrics for
multicast routing (not IP Multicast, more like IRC).
I can see we have an overlap with appleseed in the requirements for the
distributed trust model but we are heading different direction in their
application which means appleseed on top of our protocol could be a major
enhancement and a win on both sides!
We should look into that. Somebody throw some time at me.