Domain: psyced.org
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Re:Why?
That's why the model going forward is going to be something like
http://convergence.io/
http://perspectives-project.org/
http://patrol.psyced.org/ -
Workaround (partial)
For the paranoid/cautious: there exist extensions to FF which monitor suspicious changes to certificates (i.e., possible MITM attacks). I use Certificate Patrol.
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Re:Self Signed Certificates
Certificate Patrol: http://patrol.psyced.org/
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Re:So now where should hobbyists turn?
Against what trusted source would they verify the fingerprint?
Using the following two Firefox plugins gets you pretty effective certificate vouching:
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Re:XMPP
They're both not incredibly brilliant on bandwidth.
XMPP throws bandwidth to the air because it makes very stupid unicasting of every message that needs to get to several destinations, and also because it uses XML which is very stupid for a messaging technology.
IRC has huge overheads because of the distributed user and channel database that it keeps synchronizing across its network.
But should you have a bit of time to spare, there is a technology which does
* not keep a shared database across its servers
* use multiple multicast trees instead of just one like IRC does
* is client-compatible to both IRC and XMPP
It is called PSYC, and it is open-source too.
Have a look at http://www.psyced.org/ -
Re:The IRCD could have helped with some of that...
unless your ircd uses an authentication scheme which is completely
bot-free (there is no NickServ in the first place).
check out http://www.psyced.org/ for sane identities and safer ircing. -
But why IRC?
I've never figured out why it is that IRC is so popular. It tends to be unstable, it's architecture lends itself to takeover attempts where services aren't in place (and even then if services goes down), and the noise level is pretty high. It's just always amazed me that it's still so popular today despite being so, well, crappy. I'm not really trying to plug a project here, but I do think it's somewhat relevent to the discussion. I've been messing around with PSYC, the Protocol for Synchronous Communication. I have to say it's pretty promising, and it even has an IRC interface so legacy IRC clients can connect and use its services. There's also a PSYC client, access via telnet, XMPP/Jabber, SMTP, NNTP, POP3, and even a few things using SIP. I'd urge anyone who is interested in communication and collaboration to check it out. Basically you end up with a more or less decentralized network for IRC. It works in some ways like Jabber, as rooms/channels exist on certain servers, but there can never be any nick collisions or takeover attempts, rooms can't be taken over, no splits, etc. It's pretty interesting, at least IMHO.
:)