Slashdot Mirror

Start here, and work your way down.

SOOooo I looked around on their website....nope...can'e download an entire package of OpenLinux....and then I thought....wait a second..support! shouldn't ceasing support of a product that they sold a few weeks ago put them under some kinda liability?? so i dug around on the ftp site....and it didn't take to long to find exactly what i was looking for. ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/updates/OpenLinux/3.1.1/Work station/CSSA-2003-020.0/SRPMS/. The Linux kernel packed in source RPM format! yes, they ARE still distributing the source code for very thing which they believe contains their own proprietary code!

"The Linux business model was bound to change..."

Mr. Mcbride is showing that he just doesn't understand that Linux is not a business model.

Linux is a reality of the market. Deal with it.

Free Software and Open Source are ralities of the market. Deal with that too.

If someone wants to contribute to the industry through Open Source and Free licensing, they can.

No entrance fee required.

For the first time in the history of the industrial revolution, an educated hobbyist can create something that will take business a corporation.

And nothing can be done about it. No legislation required.

And no amount of hair gel will change anything.

"The Linux business model was bound to change..."

Mr. Mcbride is showing that he just doesn't understand that Linux is not a business model.

Linux is a reality of the market. Deal with it.

Free Software and Open Source are ralities of the market. Deal with that too.

If someone wants to contribute to the industry through Open Source and Free licensing, they can.

No entrance fee required.

For the first time in the history of the industrial revolution, an educated hobbyist can create something that will take business a corporation.

And nothing can be done about it. No legislation required.

And no amount of hair gel will change anything.

ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/updates/OpenLinux/3.1.1/Serv er/CSSA-2003-020.0/SRPMS

Here's some more interesting news about SCO. According to Netcraft, SCO's website is ironically hosted on Linux.

Well, SCO is still not out of cash... aparantly. So, for them to stop, they need to run out first. Since they have to pay for bandwidth... I guess using a little wouldn't hurt.

So, got bandwidth? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time...

Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here

(for all you non-English speakers)
a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here

a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here

a 7.9mb mp3 of a Calcomra confrence call (May 2002) from here

a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here

a 4.5mb vector image of the Calcomra logo from here

OR

a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here

***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /comv/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them...

36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip')
wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip

12.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/ecomsktop/ecomsktop_24_it.pdf

10mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF

7.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3

4.2mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3

5.4mb:
wget http://www.sco.com/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3

9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF

4mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf

And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times:
wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

Well, SCO is still not out of cash... aparantly. So, for them to stop, they need to run out first. Since they have to pay for bandwidth... I guess using a little wouldn't hurt.

So, got bandwidth? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time...

Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here

(for all you non-English speakers)
a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here

a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here

a 7.9mb mp3 of a Calcomra confrence call (May 2002) from here

a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here

a 4.5mb vector image of the Calcomra logo from here

OR

a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here

***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /comv/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them...

36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip')
wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip

12.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/ecomsktop/ecomsktop_24_it.pdf

10mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF

7.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3

4.2mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3

5.4mb:
wget http://www.sco.com/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3

9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF

4mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf

And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times:
wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

Well, SCO is still not out of cash... aparantly. So, for them to stop, they need to run out first. Since they have to pay for bandwidth... I guess using a little wouldn't hurt.

So, got bandwidth? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time...

Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here

(for all you non-English speakers)
a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here

a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here

a 7.9mb mp3 of a Calcomra confrence call (May 2002) from here

a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here

a 4.5mb vector image of the Calcomra logo from here

OR

a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here

***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /comv/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them...

36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip')
wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip

12.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/ecomsktop/ecomsktop_24_it.pdf

10mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF

7.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3

4.2mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3

5.4mb:
wget http://www.sco.com/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3

9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF

4mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf

And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times:
wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

Well, SCO is still not out of cash... aparantly. So, for them to stop, they need to run out first. Since they have to pay for bandwidth... I guess using a little wouldn't hurt.

So, got bandwidth? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time...

Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here

(for all you non-English speakers)
a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here

a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here

a 7.9mb mp3 of a Calcomra confrence call (May 2002) from here

a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here

a 4.5mb vector image of the Calcomra logo from here

OR

a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here

***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /comv/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them...

36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip')
wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip

12.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/ecomsktop/ecomsktop_24_it.pdf

10mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF

7.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3

4.2mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3

5.4mb:
wget http://www.sco.com/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3

9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF

4mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf

And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times:
wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

Well, SCO is still not out of cash... aparantly. So, for them to stop, they need to run out first. Since they have to pay for bandwidth... I guess using a little wouldn't hurt.

So, got bandwidth? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time...

Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here

(for all you non-English speakers)
a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here

a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here

a 7.9mb mp3 of a Calcomra confrence call (May 2002) from here

a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here

a 4.5mb vector image of the Calcomra logo from here

OR

a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here

***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /comv/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them...

36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip')
wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip

12.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/ecomsktop/ecomsktop_24_it.pdf

10mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF

7.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3

4.2mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3

5.4mb:
wget http://www.sco.com/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3

9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF

4mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf

And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times:
wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

Well, SCO is still not out of cash... aparantly. So, for them to stop, they need to run out first. Since they have to pay for bandwidth... I guess using a little wouldn't hurt.

So, got bandwidth? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time...

Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here

(for all you non-English speakers)
a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here

a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here

a 7.9mb mp3 of a Calcomra confrence call (May 2002) from here

a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here

a 4.5mb vector image of the Calcomra logo from here

OR

a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here

***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /comv/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them...

36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip')
wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip

12.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/ecomsktop/ecomsktop_24_it.pdf

10mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF

7.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3

4.2mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3

5.4mb:
wget http://www.sco.com/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3

9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF

4mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf

And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times:
wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

Well, SCO is still not out of cash... aparantly. So, for them to stop, they need to run out first. Since they have to pay for bandwidth... I guess using a little wouldn't hurt.

So, got bandwidth? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time...

Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here

(for all you non-English speakers)
a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here

a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here

a 7.9mb mp3 of a Calcomra confrence call (May 2002) from here

a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here

a 4.5mb vector image of the Calcomra logo from here

OR

a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here

***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /comv/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them...

36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip')
wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip

12.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/ecomsktop/ecomsktop_24_it.pdf

10mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF

7.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3

4.2mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3

5.4mb:
wget http://www.sco.com/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3

9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF

4mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf

And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times:
wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

I doubt it, but they're still distributing 2.4.13.

Since they've stopped distributing the infringing code, I presume it must have show up in 2.4.14 or later.

You think Sun is hot? You should check out SCO!

;-)

I just reviewed the licences between AT&T and IBM that are posted on SCO's site as Exhibit A and Exhibit B.

In section 3.03 of exhibit B it clearly states that "AT&T" may revoke the licence for non-compliance. Moreover paragraph 4 of the first page contains a standard "no alterations unless signed in writing" clause. I see nothing that allows AT&T to sell this termination right without IBM's approval.

I just reviewed the licences between AT&T and IBM that are posted on SCO's site as Exhibit A and Exhibit B.

In section 3.03 of exhibit B it clearly states that "AT&T" may revoke the licence for non-compliance. Moreover paragraph 4 of the first page contains a standard "no alterations unless signed in writing" clause. I see nothing that allows AT&T to sell this termination right without IBM's approval.

Article 78 is a New York state law, and would not apply in Utah.

Actually, if you read the original contracts between IBM and AT&T posted on SCO's site as Exhibit A and B, the forum selection clauses provide that the state law of New York applies. See for example, section 7.13 of Exhibit A and section 6.05 of Exhibit B.

Article 78 is a New York state law, and would not apply in Utah.

Actually, if you read the original contracts between IBM and AT&T posted on SCO's site as Exhibit A and B, the forum selection clauses provide that the state law of New York applies. See for example, section 7.13 of Exhibit A and section 6.05 of Exhibit B.

An SCO complaint in a "fact" pleading jurisdiction would likely have been much more involved and likely IBM would have had a different response.

Please take a few minutes and read SCO's original complaint.

SCO Files Civil Lawsuit Against IBM in Utah State Court

That's right. SCO filed in state court.

IBM filed a snarky "Notice of Removal" which basically says "yo, morons, unlike you we are NOT a Delaware corporation, so try suing us in the right court, mmmkay? Diversity of jurisdiction and all that."

It takes about five minutes to figure out what state IBM is incorporated in. It's at the front of Exhibit A, it's on their 10-K's, and so on. So either SCO did very poor legal preparation, or they intentionally filed in the wrong court for some mysterious reason.

All these and more available at:

SCO Lawsuit Documents

An SCO complaint in a "fact" pleading jurisdiction would likely have been much more involved and likely IBM would have had a different response.

Please take a few minutes and read SCO's original complaint.

SCO Files Civil Lawsuit Against IBM in Utah State Court

That's right. SCO filed in state court.

IBM filed a snarky "Notice of Removal" which basically says "yo, morons, unlike you we are NOT a Delaware corporation, so try suing us in the right court, mmmkay? Diversity of jurisdiction and all that."

It takes about five minutes to figure out what state IBM is incorporated in. It's at the front of Exhibit A, it's on their 10-K's, and so on. So either SCO did very poor legal preparation, or they intentionally filed in the wrong court for some mysterious reason.

All these and more available at:

SCO Lawsuit Documents

Why don't y'all read the contract for yourself?

SCO lawsuit against IBM

Read Exhibit A, Exhibit B, and Exhibit C, in particular.

SCO can revoke the license for breach of contract. The procedure for doing this is not at all clear.

My question is: what is SCO going to ask a court to do? Is SCO going to ask for a preliminary injunction, or what?

The test for a preliminary injunction is: (1) the moving party's chances of success on the merits of their case and (2) the "balance of harm": how much harm that SCO suffers if they do not get a preliminary injunction, and how much harm IBM suffers if SCO does get a preliminary injunction.

On part (1), it's anyone's guess.

On part (2), the "balance of harm" strongly favors IBM.

SCO does not claim that IBM's distribution of AIX has harmed SCO in any way whatsoever. Thus, stopping the distribution of AIX will have zero effect on SCO's alleged suffering. In contrast, stopping the distribution of AIX will have an immediate, large, irreparable effect on IBM in the marketplace. It is grossly unfair to subject IBM to such a penalty without a trial on the merits first.

If not a preliminary injunction, what else could SCO do after Friday the 13th?

Disclaimer: IANAL
Disclosure: I am short SCOX

('disclaimer' and 'disclosure' mean subtly different things ... I always wanted to use them both in the same post!)

http://ir.sco.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=1095 07

I suppose they could still be d/b/a, but it looks like they really are "The SCO Group" now.

If anyone can make a good assesment of the situation without compromising any IP, its Richard M. Stallman. He should be allowed, paid even, to view all the documents and given time to make a critical assesment.

You mean the Richard M. Stallman that SCO quotes out of context on their web site, in what some people have seen as an attempt to smear the Open Source/Free Software movements?

Somehow I don't see that one flying...

Well, SCO is still not out of cash... aparantly. So, for them to stop, they need to run out first. Since they have to pay for bandwidth... I guess using a little wouldn't hurt. So, got bandwidth? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time... Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here (for all you non-English speakers) a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here a 7.9mb mp3 of a Caldera confrence call (May 2002) from here a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here a 4.5mb vector image of the Caldera logo from here OR a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here a 128mb iso evaluation of the SCOoffice 'Volution' product from here ***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /dev/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them... 36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip') wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip 12.9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/edesktop/edesktop_24_it.pdf 10mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF 7.9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3 4.2mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3 5.4mb: wget http://www.sco.de/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3 9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF 4mb: wget sco.de/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times: wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

Well, SCO is still not out of cash... aparantly. So, for them to stop, they need to run out first. Since they have to pay for bandwidth... I guess using a little wouldn't hurt. So, got bandwidth? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time... Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here (for all you non-English speakers) a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here a 7.9mb mp3 of a Caldera confrence call (May 2002) from here a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here a 4.5mb vector image of the Caldera logo from here OR a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here a 128mb iso evaluation of the SCOoffice 'Volution' product from here ***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /dev/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them... 36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip') wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip 12.9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/edesktop/edesktop_24_it.pdf 10mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF 7.9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3 4.2mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3 5.4mb: wget http://www.sco.de/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3 9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF 4mb: wget sco.de/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times: wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

Well, SCO is still not out of cash... aparantly. So, for them to stop, they need to run out first. Since they have to pay for bandwidth... I guess using a little wouldn't hurt. So, got bandwidth? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time... Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here (for all you non-English speakers) a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here a 7.9mb mp3 of a Caldera confrence call (May 2002) from here a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here a 4.5mb vector image of the Caldera logo from here OR a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here a 128mb iso evaluation of the SCOoffice 'Volution' product from here ***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /dev/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them... 36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip') wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip 12.9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/edesktop/edesktop_24_it.pdf 10mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF 7.9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3 4.2mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3 5.4mb: wget http://www.sco.de/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3 9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF 4mb: wget sco.de/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times: wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

Well, SCO is still not out of cash... aparantly. So, for them to stop, they need to run out first. Since they have to pay for bandwidth... I guess using a little wouldn't hurt. So, got bandwidth? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time... Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here (for all you non-English speakers) a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here a 7.9mb mp3 of a Caldera confrence call (May 2002) from here a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here a 4.5mb vector image of the Caldera logo from here OR a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here a 128mb iso evaluation of the SCOoffice 'Volution' product from here ***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /dev/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them... 36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip') wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip 12.9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/edesktop/edesktop_24_it.pdf 10mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF 7.9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3 4.2mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3 5.4mb: wget http://www.sco.de/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3 9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF 4mb: wget sco.de/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times: wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

Well, SCO is still not out of cash... aparantly. So, for them to stop, they need to run out first. Since they have to pay for bandwidth... I guess using a little wouldn't hurt. So, got bandwidth? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time... Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here (for all you non-English speakers) a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here a 7.9mb mp3 of a Caldera confrence call (May 2002) from here a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here a 4.5mb vector image of the Caldera logo from here OR a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here a 128mb iso evaluation of the SCOoffice 'Volution' product from here ***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /dev/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them... 36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip') wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip 12.9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/edesktop/edesktop_24_it.pdf 10mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF 7.9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3 4.2mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3 5.4mb: wget http://www.sco.de/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3 9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF 4mb: wget sco.de/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times: wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

Well, SCO is still not out of cash... aparantly. So, for them to stop, they need to run out first. Since they have to pay for bandwidth... I guess using a little wouldn't hurt. So, got bandwidth? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time... Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here (for all you non-English speakers) a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here a 7.9mb mp3 of a Caldera confrence call (May 2002) from here a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here a 4.5mb vector image of the Caldera logo from here OR a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here a 128mb iso evaluation of the SCOoffice 'Volution' product from here ***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /dev/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them... 36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip') wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip 12.9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/edesktop/edesktop_24_it.pdf 10mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF 7.9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3 4.2mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3 5.4mb: wget http://www.sco.de/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3 9mb: wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF 4mb: wget sco.de/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times: wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

80. Any software licensed under the GPL (including Linux) must, by its terms, not be held proprietary or confidential, and may not be claimed by any party as a trade secret or copyright property.

5. You are not required to accept this License, since you have not signed it. However, nothing else grants you permission to modify or distribute the Program or its derivative works. These actions are prohibited by law if you do not accept this License. Therefore, by modifying or distributing the Program (or any work based on the Program), you indicate your acceptance of this License to do so, and all its terms and conditions for copying, distributing or modifying the Program or works based on it.

You can clearly see on http://www.sco.com/scosource/unixtree/unixhistory0 1.html an arrow drawn from Linux 2.2.16 kernel to the SCO UnixWare. Unfortunately you don't see any arrow going the other direction :). Check out http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html for a non obfuscated version of the graph.

"Reference to the SCO web site shows that they own certain intellectual
property and that they correctly attribute the trademark to The Open Group.
SCO has never owned "UNIX". SCO is licensed to use the registered trademark
UNIX "on and in connection" with their products that have been certified by The
Open Group, as are all other licensees," the statement said.

"These are the only circumstances in which a licensee may use the trademark
UNIX on and in connection with its products. Statements that SCO 'owns the
UNIX operating system', has 'licensed UNIX to XYZ' are clearly inaccurate and
misleading."

Q: What is SVR6?
A: SVR6 is the code name for the next-generation operating platform designed to take advantage of Web services and is the foundation of our SCOx strategy. As the owners of the UNIX operating system, it is incumbent upon SCO to advance the UNIX kernel for both 32-bit and 64-bit architectures. This will be accomplished through the support of key industry partners who will also contribute to this next-generation platform. SVR6 will be formally announced at our upcoming SCO Forum event to be held in Las Vegas, Nevada on August 17-19 at the MGM Grand Hotel.

"We have also never contributed Unix source code to the Linux kernel," he said

There is a (partial?) list of SCO's contribution to the Linux kernel on SCO's own web site: http://www.sco.com/developers/community/contrib/li nux.html

Whether any of these contributions are "Unix source code" or other stuff, is not stated on that page.

College CS professors have programs that will check these things specifically for cheating (Even identical commenting isn't impossible, but identical spacing patterns are very very very very unlikely.)

SO SCO give me the source you already say it's offending, so you can't take it off my CD. (I ALREADY HAVE YOUR SOURCE SCO MUHAHAHAHA.) We rewrite it, recompile, and viola any *offending* source is gone.

Don't like that case? Then, I'll copy my Caldera Linux CDS (copied for asethetic purposes only I assure you) which I downloaded 2 weeks ago from your site: ftp.sco.com. I'll recompile (that is if your kernel will even make config.) Sue me, and sue yourself.

I consider the law prohibiting the sharing of copies with your friend the moral equivalent of Jim Crow. It does not deserve respect.
Richard Stallman, Free as in Freedom, Richard Stallman's Crusade for Free Software: O'Reilly (2002) at p. 72

The whole GNU project is really one big hack. It's one big act of subversive playful cleverness...
Richard Stallman, Revolution OS (DVD)

Bruce Perens

This is becoming a tradition. I go there and break the law every year in the name of free speech.
Bruce Perens, explaining his plan to demonstrate how to modify DVD technology to attendees of an Open Source convention.

We have to remember that Linux is a follow-on to UNIX. It's not just a UNIX clone. It's actually a UNIX successor.
Bruce Perens, mpulse magazine, December 2001.

Now, I'm not one to be shocked when businesses show disregard for truth and ethics, but this is quite a campaign they've got going here. I, for one, would hate to see IBM buy out SCO, as it would reward acting in this sort of fashion, not only for SCO, but for companies in similar situations in the future -- I'd much rather see them either get their pants countersued off by IBM and possibly other organizations as well, or have the judge throw out their case and give them a good censuring.

Correct link is http://www.sco.com/scosource/complaint3.06.03.html . Paragraph 78 and 80 with emphasis added:-

78. The primary purpose of the GNU organization is to create free software based on valuable commercial software. The primary operating system advanced by GNU is Linux.

80. Any software licensed under the GPL (including Linux) must, by its terms, not be held proprietary or confidential, and may not be claimed by any party as a trade secret or copyright property.

It didn't happen because BSD was defended by a university's law team.

Despite IBM's advocacy of Linux, the bottom line is a corporation, and their interest is in protecting IBM's shareholders investment. If SCO for example offer to settle with IBM for little or nothing, provided IBM accepts parts of SCO's complaint (paragraph 78 and 80), SCO effectively win against everybody except IBM.

Even if SCO think it unlikely that their claims will fly, they are trying. From their complaint (emphasis added)

78. The primary purpose of the GNU organization is to create free software based on valuable commercial software. The primary operating system advanced by GNU is Linux.

80. Any software licensed under the GPL (including Linux) must, by its terms, not be held proprietary or confidential, and may not be claimed by any party as a trade secret or copyright property.

Link is http://www.sco.com/scosource/complaint3.06.03.html

Do you have a link corroborating that?

http://www.sco.com/scosource/complaint3.06.03.html

80. Any software licensed under the GPL (including Linux) must, by its terms, not be held proprietary or confidential, and may not be claimed by any party as a trade secret or copyright property.

I think means para 78 and 80. Which read (emphasis added):-

78. The primary purpose of the GNU organization is to create free software based on valuable commercial software. The primary operating system advanced by GNU is Linux.

80. Any software licensed under the GPL (including Linux) must, by its terms, not be held proprietary or confidential, and may not be claimed by any party as a trade secret or copyright property.

Link is http://www.sco.com/scosource/complaint3.06.03.html

Okay, the SCO complaint is here, if I understand your reference properly.

Paragraph 80 doesn't explicitly claim that GPL'ed material is public domain, though part of their commentary could be construed thusly.

Paragraph 77 makes no claim whatsoever as to Linux being public domain and SCO IP, and merely discusses Stallman, making two mistakes: Richard Stallman was never a professor at MIT, and his organization is FSF, not GNU.

This section generally is full of groaners of this sort. Paragraph 84 being the one that entertained so many people here previously, of course.

Actually SCO claims Linux is in the public domain:

Paragraphs 77 to 81 of SCO's complaint describe their view of "General Public License" [sic]. In Paragraph 80, read their claims on GPL copyrights (they say there aren't any). Paragraph 77 (and their general claims overall) seek to thus establish Linux is a combination of public domain and nefariously obtained proprietary SCO IP. If the court accepts this line of reasoning, we are left with the situation, where SCO will be able to claim exclusive copyright on the overall work of Linux.

Chris Sonntag made it completely clear when he publcly said 'we hope to get our arms around all the Linux out there' and 'there is no legal use of Linux'?

I think nearly everybody is missing what SCO's real goal is. Of course they would like it IBM gives them a truckload of money, or SCO's own product sales pick up, but they do NOT really expect either to happen.

What they actual want: Defacto or Actual CONTROL OVER LINUX.

Chris Sonntag made it completely clear when he publcly said 'we hope to get our arms around all the Linux out there' and 'there is no legal use of Linux'?

Defacto control can be achieved by establishing (at least in business people's minds) that Linux infringes their IP, but never revealing exactly how. They will simply say: Look MS settled (and yes they really were threatened with a SCO lawsuit), Look IBM settled (they might, I bet they would if SCO offered to settle for a undisclosed ($1) amount), Gartner, Aberdeen, Yankee Consulting say Linux may infringe, etc.

Full control (SCO owns Linux copyright) may be established by asserting Linux is a combination of public domain work (GPL stuff) and copyrighted SCO stuff. In other words, they want the courts to assign them OVERALL COPYRIGHT FOR LINUX. Their Legal complaint makes this 100% clear that this is their position:

Paragraphs 77 to 81 of SCO's complaint describe their view of "General Public License" [sic]. In Paragraph 80, read their claims on GPL copyrights (they say there aren't any). Paragraph 77 (and their general claims overall) seek to thus establish Linux is a combination of public domain and nefariously obtained proprietary SCO IP. If the court accepts this line of reasoning, we are left with the situation, where SCO will be able to claim exclusive copyright on the overall work of Linux.

... I have severely not impressed.

If you want a laugh, check out "IBM Files a Notice of Removal" from the SCO lawsuit documents. IBM points out that Boies filed the complaint in the wrong court.

Disclosure: I am short SCOX.

in only 80 lines of code?

According to find, grep and wc, a Mandrake 2.4.21-pre kernel (not including the Documentation/ tree) comes to 4.37 million non-blank lines. According to The SCO Group's lawyers, two thousandths of a percent of the Linux kernel was contributed by them. Gee, that was worthwhile. And considerably less than their own website claims.

Of course, they didn't nominate the file containing the 80 lines, it might well be net/tcp_ecn.h or better yet lines 3-24 of math-emu/single.h (-:

1. Linux steals code from SCO. (This is what SCO is claiming -- theft of IP via IBM's developers.)
2. Linux gives code to SCO. (In my mind a likely possibility, given that SCO-- once Caldera Linux-- sold a Linux distrobution.)
3. Linux and SCO both borrow the same code from a third, public doman or BSD-style licensed source.

Personally, I place the first option as the least possible for two reasons: first, that I doubt any decently-skilled programmer would believe that (improperly donated) proprientary code would remain undetected in a open source program. (The "many eyes" principle doesn't make just bugs shallow!) Secondly, SCO "damning evidence" chart of UNIX history shows two arrows going FROM Linux to UnixWare around August 2000 (on either side of UnixWare 7.1.1+LKP), one coming from the Linux 2.2 branch and the other from the Linux 2.4 branch. This chart also shows one (and only one) arrow leading into Linux ... from BSD 4.4 around the end of 1994 (Linux 1.1.52).

I'm laughing my head of at this whole brouhaha. SCO can't keep their story straight (one day it's trade secrets, then copyright, then patents, then ...) nor can they even lie convincingly on their webpage. Somebody please start a class action lawsuit positing fraud against these folks.

Got bandwidth? Want to use some of it rather than let it go to waste? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time...

Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here

(for all you non-English speakers)
a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here

a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here

a 7.9mb mp3 of a Caldera confrence call (May 2002) from here

a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here

a 4.5mb vector image of the Caldera logo from here

OR

a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here

a 128mb iso evaluation of the SCOoffice 'Volution' product from here

***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /dev/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them...

36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip')
wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip

12.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/edesktop/edesktop_24_it.pdf

10mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF

7.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3

4.2mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3

5.4mb:
wget http://www.sco.de/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3

9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF

4mb:
wget sco.de/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf

And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times:
wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

Got bandwidth? Want to use some of it rather than let it go to waste? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time...

Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here

(for all you non-English speakers)
a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here

a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here

a 7.9mb mp3 of a Caldera confrence call (May 2002) from here

a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here

a 4.5mb vector image of the Caldera logo from here

OR

a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here

a 128mb iso evaluation of the SCOoffice 'Volution' product from here

***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /dev/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them...

36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip')
wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip

12.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/edesktop/edesktop_24_it.pdf

10mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF

7.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3

4.2mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3

5.4mb:
wget http://www.sco.de/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3

9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF

4mb:
wget sco.de/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf

And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times:
wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

Got bandwidth? Want to use some of it rather than let it go to waste? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time...

Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here

(for all you non-English speakers)
a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here

a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here

a 7.9mb mp3 of a Caldera confrence call (May 2002) from here

a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here

a 4.5mb vector image of the Caldera logo from here

OR

a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here

a 128mb iso evaluation of the SCOoffice 'Volution' product from here

***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /dev/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them...

36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip')
wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip

12.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/edesktop/edesktop_24_it.pdf

10mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF

7.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3

4.2mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3

5.4mb:
wget http://www.sco.de/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3

9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF

4mb:
wget sco.de/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf

And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times:
wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/

Got bandwidth? Want to use some of it rather than let it go to waste? Mad at SCO? Want to learn more about their products and/or hear them talk? Last time they pulled the file when slashdot wanted to know how to administrate their Linux server. This time...

Download a 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here

(for all you non-English speakers)
a 12.9mb Italian OpenLinux manual pdf from here

a 10mb Unixware administration pdf from here

a 7.9mb mp3 of a Caldera confrence call (May 2002) from here

a 4.2mb mp3 of a SCO confrence call from here

a 4.5mb vector image of the Caldera logo from here

OR

a 6.8mb SCO education Linux courseware pdf from here

a 128mb iso evaluation of the SCOoffice 'Volution' product from here

***If you want to get these interesting files easier, you can also launch an unspecified number of wget processes. You can even -O /dev/null them if you don't want to use disk space, but still want to download them...

36.6mb: (removing the space in 'zip')
wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip

12.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/edesktop/edesktop_24_it.pdf

10mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/UW7NET~1.PDF

7.9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/06032002.mp3

4.2mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/q2.mp3

5.4mb:
wget http://www.sco.de/images/pdf/12-11-01.mp3

9mb:
wget sco.com/images/pdf/aep/OS5NET~1.PDF

4mb:
wget sco.de/images/pdf/unixware/946000000b.pdf

And, if you need their entire website for offline viewing... not wanting to waste bandwidth downloading things multiple times:
wget -r -l0 http://www.sco.com/