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"Microsoft's poor record at building a somewhat secure operating system." - by cpghost (719344) on Tuesday March 29, @12:09PM (#35654070) Homepage

See below... & if you're going to talk? Don't do it out your ass!

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Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/29/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (e.g., & of ALL things? Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes another, iirc, etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to - go figure, eh?).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/28/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2008: (03/28/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21744/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2010:(03/29/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30853/?task=advisories

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

(The single 1 here also, like Windows 7 above, has an EASY work-around, & thus? Again, "NO PROBLEMO"!)

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Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.x:
(03/29/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34591/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)

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So, that "all said & aside"?

For a "poor track record", MS has practically INVULNERABLE systems out there in their current stuff (& recent lesser versions also)... & NOT JUST THE OS, but the entire "gamut" of what you need to do business online, today (and, as you can see? QUITE safely!)

I.E.-> They're doing a HELL OF A GOOD JOB on the security front!

APK

P.S.=> So, shall we compare a NIX/Open SORES OS in Linux's "latest/greatest"? Lets, & here goes:

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Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x (03/29/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/?task=advisories

Unpatched 7% (19 of 259 Secunia advisories)

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LMAO - THAT? That's more than 3x as many as Windows 7 has that are unpatched, & I'd wager there aren't workarounds for them (or as many as MS has shown above)...

Plus?

ROTFLMAO - THAT'S ONLY THE LINUX KERNEL MIND YOU, not the entire 'gamut/array' of what actually comes in a Linux distro that has (such as the attendant GUI, Windows managers, browsers, etc. that ship in distros too that have bugs, and yes, THEY DO) THAT ADDS EVEN MORE BUGS that COMPOUNDS THAT # EVEN MORE!

(It gets even WORSE when you toss on ANDROID (yes, it's a LINUX variant too), because it's being shredded on the security-front lately, unfortunately)

BOTTOM-LINE:

What this all comes down to, is all the "Pro-*NIX propoganda straight outta pravda" practically doesn't stand up very well against concrete, verifia

EAT YOUR WORDS:

"Microsoft's poor record at building a somewhat secure operating system." - by cpghost (719344) on Tuesday March 29, @12:09PM (#35654070) Homepage

See below... & if you're going to talk? Don't do it out your ass!

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/29/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (e.g., & of ALL things? Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes another, iirc, etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to - go figure, eh?).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/28/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2008: (03/28/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21744/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2010:(03/29/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30853/?task=advisories

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

(The single 1 here also, like Windows 7 above, has an EASY work-around, & thus? Again, "NO PROBLEMO"!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.x:
(03/29/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34591/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)

---

So, that "all said & aside"?

For a "poor track record", MS has practically INVULNERABLE systems out there in their current stuff (& recent lesser versions also)... & NOT JUST THE OS, but the entire "gamut" of what you need to do business online, today (and, as you can see? QUITE safely!)

I.E.-> They're doing a HELL OF A GOOD JOB on the security front!

APK

P.S.=> So, shall we compare a NIX/Open SORES OS in Linux's "latest/greatest"? Lets, & here goes:

---

Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x (03/29/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/?task=advisories

Unpatched 7% (19 of 259 Secunia advisories)

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LMAO - THAT? That's more than 3x as many as Windows 7 has that are unpatched, & I'd wager there aren't workarounds for them (or as many as MS has shown above)...

Plus?

ROTFLMAO - THAT'S ONLY THE LINUX KERNEL MIND YOU, not the entire 'gamut/array' of what actually comes in a Linux distro that has (such as the attendant GUI, Windows managers, browsers, etc. that ship in distros too that have bugs, and yes, THEY DO) THAT ADDS EVEN MORE BUGS that COMPOUNDS THAT # EVEN MORE!

(It gets even WORSE when you toss on ANDROID (yes, it's a LINUX variant too), because it's being shredded on the security-front lately, unfortunately)

BOTTOM-LINE:

What this all comes down to, is all the "Pro-*NIX propoganda straight outta pravda" practically doesn't stand up very well against concrete, verifia

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.x: (03/28/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34591/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)

---

So, on the note of security? Windows, and its attendant "full gamut/suite" of what you need to do a business setup today?? Near "bulletproof & bugfree" (7 errs, none of which are TRULY exploitable remotely or unable to be EASILY worked around or patched for)...

Bottom-Line here, is this, especially to mgt. & business owners:

Fear? SELLS... ask ANY life insurance salesman that much, & easily too... so does secure toolsets to do business with, & finally? MS truly IS, "getting there"... & perhaps not only because MS provides a FULL array of high quality tools to do business with, that's unmatched for features & is EASY to use, but... it's now secure too, finally (for now @ least, lol, going by the known vulns counts).

APK

P.S.=> So - per the points on security in my last post I just replied to, to add on a zero known holes IE9 to?

QUESTION: Can MacOS X or Linux say the same for all the parts it has for this built-in, OR produced DIRECTLY by Apple, & NOT by 3rd parties (same with Linux too)??

I don't think so...

(That is, unless someone here can show me otherwise comparing what's used there AND is produced by the Apple company ALONE (not 3rd party stuff))... apk

For a business? Security, matters... especially since CORPORATE DATA is what hacker/crackers want now mostly, see here as an example thereof:

McAfee: Cybercrime Focused On Corporate Data:

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/127765/20110328/cybercrime-mcafee-corporate-data-study-web-security.htm

(Simply because information, IS power - sheer, unadulterated COMPETITIVE power!)

Perhaps especially in this art & science of computing, AND in business!

E.G.-> Sales people... they LIVE & DIE by their contacts lists - you steal THAT, and what they're charging their customers?? You can contact them, directly, with SOLID #'s to target to beat & "undercut" the competitor, easily... because you KNOW what's being charged for goods & services BY your competitor, to said potential customer!

(Yes - perhaps not "THE" very 'best example' but, I'm not a data-criminal hacker, but I can "Channel that inner criminal" & think like that type might, easily enough... so can you, think about it - another might be patent data on an upcoming design of something etc. (list goes on, ad-infinitum)).

So - on that note?

How's MS doing on SECURITY vs. KNOWN VULNERABILITIES now, especially for the "full gamut" of what you NEED to do business online, today? Heh... very, Very, VERY well!

E.G./To wit (with valid verifiable concrete data from a respected source for it, in SECUNIA.COM):

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/28/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (e.g., & of ALL things? Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes another, iirc, etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to - go figure, eh?).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/28/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/28/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005:(03/28/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

So - "BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

Fact is - I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

APK

P.S.=> As far as tools go though? Sure, in YOUR experience, since you obviously FAVOR Macs & obviously use them more or prefer them on your end?? Sure... what you said is expected... but, even I, a "diehard" Delphi, VB, .NET, C++, Java guy realize that certain tools DO

For a business? Security, matters... especially since CORPORATE DATA is what hacker/crackers want now mostly, see here as an example thereof:

McAfee: Cybercrime Focused On Corporate Data:

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/127765/20110328/cybercrime-mcafee-corporate-data-study-web-security.htm

(Simply because information, IS power - sheer, unadulterated COMPETITIVE power!)

Perhaps especially in this art & science of computing, AND in business!

E.G.-> Sales people... they LIVE & DIE by their contacts lists - you steal THAT, and what they're charging their customers?? You can contact them, directly, with SOLID #'s to target to beat & "undercut" the competitor, easily... because you KNOW what's being charged for goods & services BY your competitor, to said potential customer!

(Yes - perhaps not "THE" very 'best example' but, I'm not a data-criminal hacker, but I can "Channel that inner criminal" & think like that type might, easily enough... so can you, think about it - another might be patent data on an upcoming design of something etc. (list goes on, ad-infinitum)).

So - on that note?

How's MS doing on SECURITY vs. KNOWN VULNERABILITIES now, especially for the "full gamut" of what you NEED to do business online, today? Heh... very, Very, VERY well!

E.G./To wit (with valid verifiable concrete data from a respected source for it, in SECUNIA.COM):

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/28/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (e.g., & of ALL things? Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes another, iirc, etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to - go figure, eh?).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/28/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/28/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005:(03/28/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

So - "BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

Fact is - I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

APK

P.S.=> As far as tools go though? Sure, in YOUR experience, since you obviously FAVOR Macs & obviously use them more or prefer them on your end?? Sure... what you said is expected... but, even I, a "diehard" Delphi, VB, .NET, C++, Java guy realize that certain tools DO

For a business? Security, matters... especially since CORPORATE DATA is what hacker/crackers want now mostly, see here as an example thereof:

McAfee: Cybercrime Focused On Corporate Data:

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/127765/20110328/cybercrime-mcafee-corporate-data-study-web-security.htm

(Simply because information, IS power - sheer, unadulterated COMPETITIVE power!)

Perhaps especially in this art & science of computing, AND in business!

E.G.-> Sales people... they LIVE & DIE by their contacts lists - you steal THAT, and what they're charging their customers?? You can contact them, directly, with SOLID #'s to target to beat & "undercut" the competitor, easily... because you KNOW what's being charged for goods & services BY your competitor, to said potential customer!

(Yes - perhaps not "THE" very 'best example' but, I'm not a data-criminal hacker, but I can "Channel that inner criminal" & think like that type might, easily enough... so can you, think about it - another might be patent data on an upcoming design of something etc. (list goes on, ad-infinitum)).

So - on that note?

How's MS doing on SECURITY vs. KNOWN VULNERABILITIES now, especially for the "full gamut" of what you NEED to do business online, today? Heh... very, Very, VERY well!

E.G./To wit (with valid verifiable concrete data from a respected source for it, in SECUNIA.COM):

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/28/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (e.g., & of ALL things? Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes another, iirc, etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to - go figure, eh?).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/28/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/28/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005:(03/28/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

So - "BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

Fact is - I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

APK

P.S.=> As far as tools go though? Sure, in YOUR experience, since you obviously FAVOR Macs & obviously use them more or prefer them on your end?? Sure... what you said is expected... but, even I, a "diehard" Delphi, VB, .NET, C++, Java guy realize that certain tools DO

For a business? Security, matters... especially since CORPORATE DATA is what hacker/crackers want now mostly, see here as an example thereof:

McAfee: Cybercrime Focused On Corporate Data:

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/127765/20110328/cybercrime-mcafee-corporate-data-study-web-security.htm

(Simply because information, IS power - sheer, unadulterated COMPETITIVE power!)

Perhaps especially in this art & science of computing, AND in business!

E.G.-> Sales people... they LIVE & DIE by their contacts lists - you steal THAT, and what they're charging their customers?? You can contact them, directly, with SOLID #'s to target to beat & "undercut" the competitor, easily... because you KNOW what's being charged for goods & services BY your competitor, to said potential customer!

(Yes - perhaps not "THE" very 'best example' but, I'm not a data-criminal hacker, but I can "Channel that inner criminal" & think like that type might, easily enough... so can you, think about it - another might be patent data on an upcoming design of something etc. (list goes on, ad-infinitum)).

So - on that note?

How's MS doing on SECURITY vs. KNOWN VULNERABILITIES now, especially for the "full gamut" of what you NEED to do business online, today? Heh... very, Very, VERY well!

E.G./To wit (with valid verifiable concrete data from a respected source for it, in SECUNIA.COM):

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/28/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (e.g., & of ALL things? Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes another, iirc, etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to - go figure, eh?).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/28/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/28/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005:(03/28/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

So - "BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

Fact is - I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

APK

P.S.=> As far as tools go though? Sure, in YOUR experience, since you obviously FAVOR Macs & obviously use them more or prefer them on your end?? Sure... what you said is expected... but, even I, a "diehard" Delphi, VB, .NET, C++, Java guy realize that certain tools DO

For a business? Security, matters... especially since CORPORATE DATA is what hacker/crackers want now mostly, see here as an example thereof:

McAfee: Cybercrime Focused On Corporate Data:

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/127765/20110328/cybercrime-mcafee-corporate-data-study-web-security.htm

(Simply because information, IS power - sheer, unadulterated COMPETITIVE power!)

Perhaps especially in this art & science of computing, AND in business!

E.G.-> Sales people... they LIVE & DIE by their contacts lists - you steal THAT, and what they're charging their customers?? You can contact them, directly, with SOLID #'s to target to beat & "undercut" the competitor, easily... because you KNOW what's being charged for goods & services BY your competitor, to said potential customer!

(Yes - perhaps not "THE" very 'best example' but, I'm not a data-criminal hacker, but I can "Channel that inner criminal" & think like that type might, easily enough... so can you, think about it - another might be patent data on an upcoming design of something etc. (list goes on, ad-infinitum)).

So - on that note?

How's MS doing on SECURITY vs. KNOWN VULNERABILITIES now, especially for the "full gamut" of what you NEED to do business online, today? Heh... very, Very, VERY well!

E.G./To wit (with valid verifiable concrete data from a respected source for it, in SECUNIA.COM):

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/28/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (e.g., & of ALL things? Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes another, iirc, etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to - go figure, eh?).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/28/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/28/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005:(03/28/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

So - "BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

Fact is - I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

APK

P.S.=> As far as tools go though? Sure, in YOUR experience, since you obviously FAVOR Macs & obviously use them more or prefer them on your end?? Sure... what you said is expected... but, even I, a "diehard" Delphi, VB, .NET, C++, Java guy realize that certain tools DO

... and I am not the one doing the saying: Facts & figures from a reputable site for security vulnerabilities data is for me!

"So you're saying Apple is amateurish and Microsoft is secure? Are you sure you thought that through?" - by Toe, The (545098) on Thursday March 24, @08:08AM (#35597044)

Fact is, the ENTIRE GAMUT of MS' Operating System, WebServer, DataBase, WebBrowser, & Development Tools Suite IDE does a better job in their ENTIRETY than does Apple on just its OS alone!

To wit:

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/24/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (funniest part on this one? Heh - Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2008: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21744/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30853/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34591/

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!"

I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

Fact is?

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

APK

P.S.=> I already KNOW they can't in fact... their Operating Systems ALONE (Linux has 18 KNOWN security vulnerabilities as of today http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/ , & MacOS X has 9 KNOWN security vulnerabilities http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories as of today also, with REMOTE VULNERABILITIES ON THE APPLE OS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MORE THAN 1++ YEARS NOW TOO, NO LESS, UNPATCHED!... that's NOT including all the rest of what you'd need to do business out there today online or otherwise with software)...

So, "argue with the #'s" *NIX fanboys, & good luck - you'll NEED it... apk

... and I am not the one doing the saying: Facts & figures from a reputable site for security vulnerabilities data is for me!

"So you're saying Apple is amateurish and Microsoft is secure? Are you sure you thought that through?" - by Toe, The (545098) on Thursday March 24, @08:08AM (#35597044)

Fact is, the ENTIRE GAMUT of MS' Operating System, WebServer, DataBase, WebBrowser, & Development Tools Suite IDE does a better job in their ENTIRETY than does Apple on just its OS alone!

To wit:

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/24/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (funniest part on this one? Heh - Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2008: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21744/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30853/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34591/

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!"

I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

Fact is?

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

APK

P.S.=> I already KNOW they can't in fact... their Operating Systems ALONE (Linux has 18 KNOWN security vulnerabilities as of today http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/ , & MacOS X has 9 KNOWN security vulnerabilities http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories as of today also, with REMOTE VULNERABILITIES ON THE APPLE OS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MORE THAN 1++ YEARS NOW TOO, NO LESS, UNPATCHED!... that's NOT including all the rest of what you'd need to do business out there today online or otherwise with software)...

So, "argue with the #'s" *NIX fanboys, & good luck - you'll NEED it... apk

... and I am not the one doing the saying: Facts & figures from a reputable site for security vulnerabilities data is for me!

"So you're saying Apple is amateurish and Microsoft is secure? Are you sure you thought that through?" - by Toe, The (545098) on Thursday March 24, @08:08AM (#35597044)

Fact is, the ENTIRE GAMUT of MS' Operating System, WebServer, DataBase, WebBrowser, & Development Tools Suite IDE does a better job in their ENTIRETY than does Apple on just its OS alone!

To wit:

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/24/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (funniest part on this one? Heh - Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2008: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21744/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30853/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34591/

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!"

I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

Fact is?

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

APK

P.S.=> I already KNOW they can't in fact... their Operating Systems ALONE (Linux has 18 KNOWN security vulnerabilities as of today http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/ , & MacOS X has 9 KNOWN security vulnerabilities http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories as of today also, with REMOTE VULNERABILITIES ON THE APPLE OS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MORE THAN 1++ YEARS NOW TOO, NO LESS, UNPATCHED!... that's NOT including all the rest of what you'd need to do business out there today online or otherwise with software)...

So, "argue with the #'s" *NIX fanboys, & good luck - you'll NEED it... apk

... and I am not the one doing the saying: Facts & figures from a reputable site for security vulnerabilities data is for me!

"So you're saying Apple is amateurish and Microsoft is secure? Are you sure you thought that through?" - by Toe, The (545098) on Thursday March 24, @08:08AM (#35597044)

Fact is, the ENTIRE GAMUT of MS' Operating System, WebServer, DataBase, WebBrowser, & Development Tools Suite IDE does a better job in their ENTIRETY than does Apple on just its OS alone!

To wit:

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/24/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (funniest part on this one? Heh - Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2008: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21744/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30853/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34591/

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!"

I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

Fact is?

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

APK

P.S.=> I already KNOW they can't in fact... their Operating Systems ALONE (Linux has 18 KNOWN security vulnerabilities as of today http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/ , & MacOS X has 9 KNOWN security vulnerabilities http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories as of today also, with REMOTE VULNERABILITIES ON THE APPLE OS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MORE THAN 1++ YEARS NOW TOO, NO LESS, UNPATCHED!... that's NOT including all the rest of what you'd need to do business out there today online or otherwise with software)...

So, "argue with the #'s" *NIX fanboys, & good luck - you'll NEED it... apk

... and I am not the one doing the saying: Facts & figures from a reputable site for security vulnerabilities data is for me!

"So you're saying Apple is amateurish and Microsoft is secure? Are you sure you thought that through?" - by Toe, The (545098) on Thursday March 24, @08:08AM (#35597044)

Fact is, the ENTIRE GAMUT of MS' Operating System, WebServer, DataBase, WebBrowser, & Development Tools Suite IDE does a better job in their ENTIRETY than does Apple on just its OS alone!

To wit:

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/24/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (funniest part on this one? Heh - Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2008: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21744/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30853/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34591/

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!"

I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

Fact is?

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

APK

P.S.=> I already KNOW they can't in fact... their Operating Systems ALONE (Linux has 18 KNOWN security vulnerabilities as of today http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/ , & MacOS X has 9 KNOWN security vulnerabilities http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories as of today also, with REMOTE VULNERABILITIES ON THE APPLE OS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MORE THAN 1++ YEARS NOW TOO, NO LESS, UNPATCHED!... that's NOT including all the rest of what you'd need to do business out there today online or otherwise with software)...

So, "argue with the #'s" *NIX fanboys, & good luck - you'll NEED it... apk

... and I am not the one doing the saying: Facts & figures from a reputable site for security vulnerabilities data is for me!

"So you're saying Apple is amateurish and Microsoft is secure? Are you sure you thought that through?" - by Toe, The (545098) on Thursday March 24, @08:08AM (#35597044)

Fact is, the ENTIRE GAMUT of MS' Operating System, WebServer, DataBase, WebBrowser, & Development Tools Suite IDE does a better job in their ENTIRETY than does Apple on just its OS alone!

To wit:

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/24/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (funniest part on this one? Heh - Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2008: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21744/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30853/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34591/

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!"

I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

Fact is?

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

APK

P.S.=> I already KNOW they can't in fact... their Operating Systems ALONE (Linux has 18 KNOWN security vulnerabilities as of today http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/ , & MacOS X has 9 KNOWN security vulnerabilities http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories as of today also, with REMOTE VULNERABILITIES ON THE APPLE OS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MORE THAN 1++ YEARS NOW TOO, NO LESS, UNPATCHED!... that's NOT including all the rest of what you'd need to do business out there today online or otherwise with software)...

So, "argue with the #'s" *NIX fanboys, & good luck - you'll NEED it... apk

... and I am not the one doing the saying: Facts & figures from a reputable site for security vulnerabilities data is for me!

"So you're saying Apple is amateurish and Microsoft is secure? Are you sure you thought that through?" - by Toe, The (545098) on Thursday March 24, @08:08AM (#35597044)

Fact is, the ENTIRE GAMUT of MS' Operating System, WebServer, DataBase, WebBrowser, & Development Tools Suite IDE does a better job in their ENTIRETY than does Apple on just its OS alone!

To wit:

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/24/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (funniest part on this one? Heh - Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2008: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21744/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30853/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34591/

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!"

I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

Fact is?

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

APK

P.S.=> I already KNOW they can't in fact... their Operating Systems ALONE (Linux has 18 KNOWN security vulnerabilities as of today http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/ , & MacOS X has 9 KNOWN security vulnerabilities http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories as of today also, with REMOTE VULNERABILITIES ON THE APPLE OS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MORE THAN 1++ YEARS NOW TOO, NO LESS, UNPATCHED!... that's NOT including all the rest of what you'd need to do business out there today online or otherwise with software)...

So, "argue with the #'s" *NIX fanboys, & good luck - you'll NEED it... apk

... and I am not the one doing the saying: Facts & figures from a reputable site for security vulnerabilities data is for me!

"So you're saying Apple is amateurish and Microsoft is secure? Are you sure you thought that through?" - by Toe, The (545098) on Thursday March 24, @08:08AM (#35597044)

Fact is, the ENTIRE GAMUT of MS' Operating System, WebServer, DataBase, WebBrowser, & Development Tools Suite IDE does a better job in their ENTIRETY than does Apple on just its OS alone!

To wit:

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/24/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (funniest part on this one? Heh - Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2008: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21744/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2010: (03/24/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30853/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34591/

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!"

I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

Fact is?

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

APK

P.S.=> I already KNOW they can't in fact... their Operating Systems ALONE (Linux has 18 KNOWN security vulnerabilities as of today http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/ , & MacOS X has 9 KNOWN security vulnerabilities http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories as of today also, with REMOTE VULNERABILITIES ON THE APPLE OS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MORE THAN 1++ YEARS NOW TOO, NO LESS, UNPATCHED!... that's NOT including all the rest of what you'd need to do business out there today online or otherwise with software)...

So, "argue with the #'s" *NIX fanboys, & good luck - you'll NEED it... apk

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.x: (03/18/2010)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34591/

APK

P.S.=> So, am I just "pouring salt into the 'OPEN SORES' & MacOS X wounds" here? Nope... just telling it, HOW IT IS... apk

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.x: (03/18/2010)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34591/

APK

P.S.=> Pouring salt into the "OPEN SORES" & MacOS X wounds here? Nope... just telling it, HOW IT IS... apk

Here's some CURRENT documented facts/data in that regard, from a respected source for security vulnerabilities data vs. what you said:

"Sure, malware would still exist if linux or macos were the most common end user platform, but i don't believe the problem would be as serious as it is with windows." - by viablos (2018696) on Friday March 18, @08:56AM (#35528524)

I think it'd be WORSE for the *NIX crew, because they haven't had their "security bootcamp" yet, for DECADES of attack on them, as MS has & has gained by, see below (because they're less used, & thus, less of a 'desireable target' for hacker/crackers out there)... :

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/18/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

NOW, onto MacOS X, & Linux (which is ONLY THE KERNEL being rated mind you, & it has more KNOWN "BUGS" than Windows 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

(Now, toss on vulnerabilities in the other parts of Linux that ship with various distros in 3rd party apps, or even native Windows managers or GUI shells (KDE/Gnome/xfce etc./et al)? Well, THEN?? Then, you see that # go up, Up, UP & AWAY... & go even farther past Windows 7 in terms of KNOWN security issues than the kernel of Linux ALONE does already, which is nearly 3x that of Win7 as is, & Windows is a COMPLETE OS, not just a kernel, already!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Apple Macintosh OS X: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 6% (9 of 151 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

(2 of which are REMOTE in nature, and remain unpatched for more than 1 yr. now, no less)

---

So, in the end here/bottom-line

Here's some CURRENT documented facts/data in that regard, from a respected source for security vulnerabilities data vs. what you said:

"Sure, malware would still exist if linux or macos were the most common end user platform, but i don't believe the problem would be as serious as it is with windows." - by viablos (2018696) on Friday March 18, @08:56AM (#35528524)

I think it'd be WORSE for the *NIX crew, because they haven't had their "security bootcamp" yet, for DECADES of attack on them, as MS has & has gained by, see below (because they're less used, & thus, less of a 'desireable target' for hacker/crackers out there)... :

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/18/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

NOW, onto MacOS X, & Linux (which is ONLY THE KERNEL being rated mind you, & it has more KNOWN "BUGS" than Windows 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

(Now, toss on vulnerabilities in the other parts of Linux that ship with various distros in 3rd party apps, or even native Windows managers or GUI shells (KDE/Gnome/xfce etc./et al)? Well, THEN?? Then, you see that # go up, Up, UP & AWAY... & go even farther past Windows 7 in terms of KNOWN security issues than the kernel of Linux ALONE does already, which is nearly 3x that of Win7 as is, & Windows is a COMPLETE OS, not just a kernel, already!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Apple Macintosh OS X: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 6% (9 of 151 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

(2 of which are REMOTE in nature, and remain unpatched for more than 1 yr. now, no less)

---

So, in the end here/bottom-line

Here's some CURRENT documented facts/data in that regard, from a respected source for security vulnerabilities data vs. what you said:

"Sure, malware would still exist if linux or macos were the most common end user platform, but i don't believe the problem would be as serious as it is with windows." - by viablos (2018696) on Friday March 18, @08:56AM (#35528524)

I think it'd be WORSE for the *NIX crew, because they haven't had their "security bootcamp" yet, for DECADES of attack on them, as MS has & has gained by, see below (because they're less used, & thus, less of a 'desireable target' for hacker/crackers out there)... :

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/18/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

NOW, onto MacOS X, & Linux (which is ONLY THE KERNEL being rated mind you, & it has more KNOWN "BUGS" than Windows 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

(Now, toss on vulnerabilities in the other parts of Linux that ship with various distros in 3rd party apps, or even native Windows managers or GUI shells (KDE/Gnome/xfce etc./et al)? Well, THEN?? Then, you see that # go up, Up, UP & AWAY... & go even farther past Windows 7 in terms of KNOWN security issues than the kernel of Linux ALONE does already, which is nearly 3x that of Win7 as is, & Windows is a COMPLETE OS, not just a kernel, already!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Apple Macintosh OS X: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 6% (9 of 151 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

(2 of which are REMOTE in nature, and remain unpatched for more than 1 yr. now, no less)

---

So, in the end here/bottom-line

Here's some CURRENT documented facts/data in that regard, from a respected source for security vulnerabilities data vs. what you said:

"Sure, malware would still exist if linux or macos were the most common end user platform, but i don't believe the problem would be as serious as it is with windows." - by viablos (2018696) on Friday March 18, @08:56AM (#35528524)

I think it'd be WORSE for the *NIX crew, because they haven't had their "security bootcamp" yet, for DECADES of attack on them, as MS has & has gained by, see below (because they're less used, & thus, less of a 'desireable target' for hacker/crackers out there)... :

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/18/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

NOW, onto MacOS X, & Linux (which is ONLY THE KERNEL being rated mind you, & it has more KNOWN "BUGS" than Windows 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

(Now, toss on vulnerabilities in the other parts of Linux that ship with various distros in 3rd party apps, or even native Windows managers or GUI shells (KDE/Gnome/xfce etc./et al)? Well, THEN?? Then, you see that # go up, Up, UP & AWAY... & go even farther past Windows 7 in terms of KNOWN security issues than the kernel of Linux ALONE does already, which is nearly 3x that of Win7 as is, & Windows is a COMPLETE OS, not just a kernel, already!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Apple Macintosh OS X: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 6% (9 of 151 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

(2 of which are REMOTE in nature, and remain unpatched for more than 1 yr. now, no less)

---

So, in the end here/bottom-line

Here's some CURRENT documented facts/data in that regard, from a respected source for security vulnerabilities data vs. what you said:

"Sure, malware would still exist if linux or macos were the most common end user platform, but i don't believe the problem would be as serious as it is with windows." - by viablos (2018696) on Friday March 18, @08:56AM (#35528524)

I think it'd be WORSE for the *NIX crew, because they haven't had their "security bootcamp" yet, for DECADES of attack on them, as MS has & has gained by, see below (because they're less used, & thus, less of a 'desireable target' for hacker/crackers out there)... :

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/18/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

NOW, onto MacOS X, & Linux (which is ONLY THE KERNEL being rated mind you, & it has more KNOWN "BUGS" than Windows 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

(Now, toss on vulnerabilities in the other parts of Linux that ship with various distros in 3rd party apps, or even native Windows managers or GUI shells (KDE/Gnome/xfce etc./et al)? Well, THEN?? Then, you see that # go up, Up, UP & AWAY... & go even farther past Windows 7 in terms of KNOWN security issues than the kernel of Linux ALONE does already, which is nearly 3x that of Win7 as is, & Windows is a COMPLETE OS, not just a kernel, already!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Apple Macintosh OS X: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 6% (9 of 151 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

(2 of which are REMOTE in nature, and remain unpatched for more than 1 yr. now, no less)

---

So, in the end here/bottom-line

Here's some CURRENT documented facts/data in that regard, from a respected source for security vulnerabilities data vs. what you said:

"Sure, malware would still exist if linux or macos were the most common end user platform, but i don't believe the problem would be as serious as it is with windows." - by viablos (2018696) on Friday March 18, @08:56AM (#35528524)

I think it'd be WORSE for the *NIX crew, because they haven't had their "security bootcamp" yet, for DECADES of attack on them, as MS has & has gained by, see below (because they're less used, & thus, less of a 'desireable target' for hacker/crackers out there)... :

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/18/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

NOW, onto MacOS X, & Linux (which is ONLY THE KERNEL being rated mind you, & it has more KNOWN "BUGS" than Windows 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

(Now, toss on vulnerabilities in the other parts of Linux that ship with various distros in 3rd party apps, or even native Windows managers or GUI shells (KDE/Gnome/xfce etc./et al)? Well, THEN?? Then, you see that # go up, Up, UP & AWAY... & go even farther past Windows 7 in terms of KNOWN security issues than the kernel of Linux ALONE does already, which is nearly 3x that of Win7 as is, & Windows is a COMPLETE OS, not just a kernel, already!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Apple Macintosh OS X: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 6% (9 of 151 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

(2 of which are REMOTE in nature, and remain unpatched for more than 1 yr. now, no less)

---

So, in the end here/bottom-line

Here's some CURRENT documented facts/data in that regard, from a respected source for security vulnerabilities data vs. what you said:

"Sure, malware would still exist if linux or macos were the most common end user platform, but i don't believe the problem would be as serious as it is with windows." - by viablos (2018696) on Friday March 18, @08:56AM (#35528524)

I think it'd be WORSE for the *NIX crew, because they haven't had their "security bootcamp" yet, for DECADES of attack on them, as MS has & has gained by, see below (because they're less used, & thus, less of a 'desireable target' for hacker/crackers out there)... :

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/18/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

NOW, onto MacOS X, & Linux (which is ONLY THE KERNEL being rated mind you, & it has more KNOWN "BUGS" than Windows 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

(Now, toss on vulnerabilities in the other parts of Linux that ship with various distros in 3rd party apps, or even native Windows managers or GUI shells (KDE/Gnome/xfce etc./et al)? Well, THEN?? Then, you see that # go up, Up, UP & AWAY... & go even farther past Windows 7 in terms of KNOWN security issues than the kernel of Linux ALONE does already, which is nearly 3x that of Win7 as is, & Windows is a COMPLETE OS, not just a kernel, already!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Apple Macintosh OS X: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 6% (9 of 151 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

(2 of which are REMOTE in nature, and remain unpatched for more than 1 yr. now, no less)

---

So, in the end here/bottom-line

Agreed, 110%, & with some documented facts/data:

"Windows 7 is just as secure as Mac OSX or Linux, but it's the users what is the problem. Good job Microsoft, for taking care of the internet." - by viablos (2018696) on Friday March 18, @08:56AM (#35528524)

Per my subject-line above, you probably may wish to look @ some of this data I am about to put out in regards to MS' security efforts in their currently "latest/greatest" softwares (vs. those from LINUX &/or MacOS X):

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/18/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

NOW, onto MacOS X, & Linux (which is ONLY THE KERNEL being rated mind you, & it has more KNOWN "BUGS" than Windows 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

(Now, toss on vulnerabilities in the other parts of Linux that ship with various distros in 3rd party apps, or even native Windows managers or GUI shells (KDE/Gnome/xfce etc./et al)? Well, THEN?? Then, you see that # go up, Up, UP & AWAY... & go even farther past Windows 7 in terms of KNOWN security issues than the kernel of Linux ALONE does already, which is nearly 3x that of Win7 as is, & Windows is a COMPLETE OS, not just a kernel, already!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Apple Macintosh OS X: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 6% (9 of 151 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

(2 of which are REMOTE in nature, and remain unpatched for more than 1 yr. now, no less)

---

So, in the end here/bottom-line, as you can see? Microsoft has done ONE HELL OF A JOB on the security-front... NO questions asked!

(All I can really say is, "Read 'em & WEEP", *NIX f

Agreed, 110%, & with some documented facts/data:

"Windows 7 is just as secure as Mac OSX or Linux, but it's the users what is the problem. Good job Microsoft, for taking care of the internet." - by viablos (2018696) on Friday March 18, @08:56AM (#35528524)

Per my subject-line above, you probably may wish to look @ some of this data I am about to put out in regards to MS' security efforts in their currently "latest/greatest" softwares (vs. those from LINUX &/or MacOS X):

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/18/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

NOW, onto MacOS X, & Linux (which is ONLY THE KERNEL being rated mind you, & it has more KNOWN "BUGS" than Windows 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

(Now, toss on vulnerabilities in the other parts of Linux that ship with various distros in 3rd party apps, or even native Windows managers or GUI shells (KDE/Gnome/xfce etc./et al)? Well, THEN?? Then, you see that # go up, Up, UP & AWAY... & go even farther past Windows 7 in terms of KNOWN security issues than the kernel of Linux ALONE does already, which is nearly 3x that of Win7 as is, & Windows is a COMPLETE OS, not just a kernel, already!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Apple Macintosh OS X: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 6% (9 of 151 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

(2 of which are REMOTE in nature, and remain unpatched for more than 1 yr. now, no less)

---

So, in the end here/bottom-line, as you can see? Microsoft has done ONE HELL OF A JOB on the security-front... NO questions asked!

(All I can really say is, "Read 'em & WEEP", *NIX f

Agreed, 110%, & with some documented facts/data:

"Windows 7 is just as secure as Mac OSX or Linux, but it's the users what is the problem. Good job Microsoft, for taking care of the internet." - by viablos (2018696) on Friday March 18, @08:56AM (#35528524)

Per my subject-line above, you probably may wish to look @ some of this data I am about to put out in regards to MS' security efforts in their currently "latest/greatest" softwares (vs. those from LINUX &/or MacOS X):

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/18/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

NOW, onto MacOS X, & Linux (which is ONLY THE KERNEL being rated mind you, & it has more KNOWN "BUGS" than Windows 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

(Now, toss on vulnerabilities in the other parts of Linux that ship with various distros in 3rd party apps, or even native Windows managers or GUI shells (KDE/Gnome/xfce etc./et al)? Well, THEN?? Then, you see that # go up, Up, UP & AWAY... & go even farther past Windows 7 in terms of KNOWN security issues than the kernel of Linux ALONE does already, which is nearly 3x that of Win7 as is, & Windows is a COMPLETE OS, not just a kernel, already!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Apple Macintosh OS X: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 6% (9 of 151 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

(2 of which are REMOTE in nature, and remain unpatched for more than 1 yr. now, no less)

---

So, in the end here/bottom-line, as you can see? Microsoft has done ONE HELL OF A JOB on the security-front... NO questions asked!

(All I can really say is, "Read 'em & WEEP", *NIX f

Agreed, 110%, & with some documented facts/data:

"Windows 7 is just as secure as Mac OSX or Linux, but it's the users what is the problem. Good job Microsoft, for taking care of the internet." - by viablos (2018696) on Friday March 18, @08:56AM (#35528524)

Per my subject-line above, you probably may wish to look @ some of this data I am about to put out in regards to MS' security efforts in their currently "latest/greatest" softwares (vs. those from LINUX &/or MacOS X):

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/18/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

NOW, onto MacOS X, & Linux (which is ONLY THE KERNEL being rated mind you, & it has more KNOWN "BUGS" than Windows 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

(Now, toss on vulnerabilities in the other parts of Linux that ship with various distros in 3rd party apps, or even native Windows managers or GUI shells (KDE/Gnome/xfce etc./et al)? Well, THEN?? Then, you see that # go up, Up, UP & AWAY... & go even farther past Windows 7 in terms of KNOWN security issues than the kernel of Linux ALONE does already, which is nearly 3x that of Win7 as is, & Windows is a COMPLETE OS, not just a kernel, already!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Apple Macintosh OS X: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 6% (9 of 151 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

(2 of which are REMOTE in nature, and remain unpatched for more than 1 yr. now, no less)

---

So, in the end here/bottom-line, as you can see? Microsoft has done ONE HELL OF A JOB on the security-front... NO questions asked!

(All I can really say is, "Read 'em & WEEP", *NIX f

Agreed, 110%, & with some documented facts/data:

"Windows 7 is just as secure as Mac OSX or Linux, but it's the users what is the problem. Good job Microsoft, for taking care of the internet." - by viablos (2018696) on Friday March 18, @08:56AM (#35528524)

Per my subject-line above, you probably may wish to look @ some of this data I am about to put out in regards to MS' security efforts in their currently "latest/greatest" softwares (vs. those from LINUX &/or MacOS X):

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/18/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

NOW, onto MacOS X, & Linux (which is ONLY THE KERNEL being rated mind you, & it has more KNOWN "BUGS" than Windows 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

(Now, toss on vulnerabilities in the other parts of Linux that ship with various distros in 3rd party apps, or even native Windows managers or GUI shells (KDE/Gnome/xfce etc./et al)? Well, THEN?? Then, you see that # go up, Up, UP & AWAY... & go even farther past Windows 7 in terms of KNOWN security issues than the kernel of Linux ALONE does already, which is nearly 3x that of Win7 as is, & Windows is a COMPLETE OS, not just a kernel, already!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Apple Macintosh OS X: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 6% (9 of 151 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

(2 of which are REMOTE in nature, and remain unpatched for more than 1 yr. now, no less)

---

So, in the end here/bottom-line, as you can see? Microsoft has done ONE HELL OF A JOB on the security-front... NO questions asked!

(All I can really say is, "Read 'em & WEEP", *NIX f

Agreed, 110%, & with some documented facts/data:

"Windows 7 is just as secure as Mac OSX or Linux, but it's the users what is the problem. Good job Microsoft, for taking care of the internet." - by viablos (2018696) on Friday March 18, @08:56AM (#35528524)

Per my subject-line above, you probably may wish to look @ some of this data I am about to put out in regards to MS' security efforts in their currently "latest/greatest" softwares (vs. those from LINUX &/or MacOS X):

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/18/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

NOW, onto MacOS X, & Linux (which is ONLY THE KERNEL being rated mind you, & it has more KNOWN "BUGS" than Windows 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

(Now, toss on vulnerabilities in the other parts of Linux that ship with various distros in 3rd party apps, or even native Windows managers or GUI shells (KDE/Gnome/xfce etc./et al)? Well, THEN?? Then, you see that # go up, Up, UP & AWAY... & go even farther past Windows 7 in terms of KNOWN security issues than the kernel of Linux ALONE does already, which is nearly 3x that of Win7 as is, & Windows is a COMPLETE OS, not just a kernel, already!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Apple Macintosh OS X: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 6% (9 of 151 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

(2 of which are REMOTE in nature, and remain unpatched for more than 1 yr. now, no less)

---

So, in the end here/bottom-line, as you can see? Microsoft has done ONE HELL OF A JOB on the security-front... NO questions asked!

(All I can really say is, "Read 'em & WEEP", *NIX f

Agreed, 110%, & with some documented facts/data:

"Windows 7 is just as secure as Mac OSX or Linux, but it's the users what is the problem. Good job Microsoft, for taking care of the internet." - by viablos (2018696) on Friday March 18, @08:56AM (#35528524)

Per my subject-line above, you probably may wish to look @ some of this data I am about to put out in regards to MS' security efforts in their currently "latest/greatest" softwares (vs. those from LINUX &/or MacOS X):

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows 7: (03/18/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

AND, of those 6 vulnerabilities, yes... 3 are "remote". HOWEVER, they're in subsystems (like FAX) that aren't installed "by default" (means I don't use it here), or have work-arounds (mhtml bug), OR, are caused/utilized by faulty 3rd party apps (Apple stuff triggers one, ITunes etc. but no other apps are KNOWN to).

I.E.-> "NO PROBLEMO!"

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6782/?task=advisories

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x:

Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/

---

Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2005: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 17% (1 of 6 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6779/?task=advisories

---

"BEAT THAT WITH A STICK!", & I put out ALL you need pretty much, to do a full blown development setup alongside the OS, to do business with!

I'd like to see the "FULL GAMUT" from the *NIX world show less errors than that above list of mine does (w/ only 7 errors tops, of which none really are serious enough to matter or to not be "worked-around" or avoided!)

NOW, onto MacOS X, & Linux (which is ONLY THE KERNEL being rated mind you, & it has more KNOWN "BUGS" than Windows 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Linux Kernel 2.6.x: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

(Now, toss on vulnerabilities in the other parts of Linux that ship with various distros in 3rd party apps, or even native Windows managers or GUI shells (KDE/Gnome/xfce etc./et al)? Well, THEN?? Then, you see that # go up, Up, UP & AWAY... & go even farther past Windows 7 in terms of KNOWN security issues than the kernel of Linux ALONE does already, which is nearly 3x that of Win7 as is, & Windows is a COMPLETE OS, not just a kernel, already!)

---

Vulnerability Report: Apple Macintosh OS X: (03/18/2011)

Unpatched 6% (9 of 151 Secunia advisories)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

(2 of which are REMOTE in nature, and remain unpatched for more than 1 yr. now, no less)

---

So, in the end here/bottom-line, as you can see? Microsoft has done ONE HELL OF A JOB on the security-front... NO questions asked!

(All I can really say is, "Read 'em & WEEP", *NIX f

See my subject-line above, & this:

"Now, THAT's a brilliant example of the art of trolling." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 15, @11:00PM (#35499710)

Telling the truth via citing documented, concrete, & completely verifiable facts from a reputable website for security data isn't trolling... it's just telling it how it is/the truth!

(Which seems to set the trolls on fire around here, lol!)

---

"I really regret not having a "+1 Troll" available." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 15, @11:00PM (#35499710)

Don't credit ME with it, I only cited verifiable correct information, showing Linux has MORE BUGS UNPATCHED on the security-front, than does Windows 7 (both are "latest/greatest" from both camps), ala:

---

Windows 7 Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6of 59 Secunia advisories)

Sure - 3 are remote... but, they only affect you IF you use those faulty portions

(E.G. - I don't do FAXING from a PC, & that's NOT INSTALLED BY DEFAULT as a subsystem on Windows 7 anyhow, & I don't use ITunes or other Apple apps (these are known sources of a problem in another vuln here), etc., or IF you use MS' "work arounds" (such as the MHTML bug has)).

---

vs.

---

Linux KERNEL 2.6x Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

(HOWEVER - THAT? That is ONLY THE KERNEL ALONE - toss on the REST of what makes up a Linux distro, such as the KDE/Gnome/xfce shells, Window managers, browsers built in etc.? That # goes up even MORE & would be a more "fair" comparison, complete OS vs. complete OS distro!)

---

NOW, LAST TIME I CHECKED? 6 is less than 17! & in this case? LESS TRULY IS, MORE!

---

"Thus, in a mixed-feeling state of mind, I resolved to "troll the moding system" - thus "+1 Funny" for you, sir." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 15, @11:00PM (#35499710)

I don't see how TRUTH is funny, but, suit yourself... & what I find FUNNY, is that for YEARS to DECADES, I kept hearing "Linux is more secure than Windows" (same w/ MacOS X too) & yet?

Neither one in their "latest/greatest" incarnations appears to have less known security vulnerabilities than Windows 7!

APK

P.S.=> Facts, ARE FACTS, & "argue w/ the #'s" Penguins... apk

See my subject-line above, & this:

"Now, THAT's a brilliant example of the art of trolling." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 15, @11:00PM (#35499710)

Telling the truth via citing documented, concrete, & completely verifiable facts from a reputable website for security data isn't trolling... it's just telling it how it is/the truth!

(Which seems to set the trolls on fire around here, lol!)

---

"I really regret not having a "+1 Troll" available." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 15, @11:00PM (#35499710)

Don't credit ME with it, I only cited verifiable correct information, showing Linux has MORE BUGS UNPATCHED on the security-front, than does Windows 7 (both are "latest/greatest" from both camps), ala:

---

Windows 7 Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6of 59 Secunia advisories)

Sure - 3 are remote... but, they only affect you IF you use those faulty portions

(E.G. - I don't do FAXING from a PC, & that's NOT INSTALLED BY DEFAULT as a subsystem on Windows 7 anyhow, & I don't use ITunes or other Apple apps (these are known sources of a problem in another vuln here), etc., or IF you use MS' "work arounds" (such as the MHTML bug has)).

---

vs.

---

Linux KERNEL 2.6x Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

(HOWEVER - THAT? That is ONLY THE KERNEL ALONE - toss on the REST of what makes up a Linux distro, such as the KDE/Gnome/xfce shells, Window managers, browsers built in etc.? That # goes up even MORE & would be a more "fair" comparison, complete OS vs. complete OS distro!)

---

NOW, LAST TIME I CHECKED? 6 is less than 17! & in this case? LESS TRULY IS, MORE!

---

"Thus, in a mixed-feeling state of mind, I resolved to "troll the moding system" - thus "+1 Funny" for you, sir." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 15, @11:00PM (#35499710)

I don't see how TRUTH is funny, but, suit yourself... & what I find FUNNY, is that for YEARS to DECADES, I kept hearing "Linux is more secure than Windows" (same w/ MacOS X too) & yet?

Neither one in their "latest/greatest" incarnations appears to have less known security vulnerabilities than Windows 7!

APK

P.S.=> Facts, ARE FACTS, & "argue w/ the #'s" Penguins... apk

"which by the way is how long it ALWAYS takes MicroShaft to get a decent version out" - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 15, @11:57PM (#35500084)

You SURE about that? I mean, which has MORE KNOWN BUGS in it, Linux latest/greatest, or Windows7?

So.... lol, Let's look, & do some math, shall we? Sure... here 'tis:

---

Windows 7 Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

Sure - 3 are remote... but, they only affect you IF you use those portions, or their "work arounds", to avoid them (which I do both here - I don't use F'd up subsytems, I don't need them is why).

---

vs.

---

Linux KERNEL 2.6x Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

(HOWEVER, again- THAT? That is ONLY THE KERNEL ALONE, not a FULL distro in its entirety (which IS, what Windows 7 basically IS, in the MS world) - so "toss on" the other parts of a Linux distro, lol, watch that number "pull a SUPERMAN" (ala "up, Up, & AWAY", lol!))

---

Still, let's "do the math" & last time I CHECKED? LOL, 6 was LESS THAN 17!!!

(Or has "trollism" blunted your "L33t /. troll math skillz"? LOL!)

APK

P.S.=> "Read 'em & WEEP", & "Argue w/ the #'s" & good luck... reality & truth? Must HURT, lol... apk

"which by the way is how long it ALWAYS takes MicroShaft to get a decent version out" - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 15, @11:57PM (#35500084)

You SURE about that? I mean, which has MORE KNOWN BUGS in it, Linux latest/greatest, or Windows7?

So.... lol, Let's look, & do some math, shall we? Sure... here 'tis:

---

Windows 7 Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

Sure - 3 are remote... but, they only affect you IF you use those portions, or their "work arounds", to avoid them (which I do both here - I don't use F'd up subsytems, I don't need them is why).

---

vs.

---

Linux KERNEL 2.6x Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

(HOWEVER, again- THAT? That is ONLY THE KERNEL ALONE, not a FULL distro in its entirety (which IS, what Windows 7 basically IS, in the MS world) - so "toss on" the other parts of a Linux distro, lol, watch that number "pull a SUPERMAN" (ala "up, Up, & AWAY", lol!))

---

Still, let's "do the math" & last time I CHECKED? LOL, 6 was LESS THAN 17!!!

(Or has "trollism" blunted your "L33t /. troll math skillz"? LOL!)

APK

P.S.=> "Read 'em & WEEP", & "Argue w/ the #'s" & good luck... reality & truth? Must HURT, lol... apk

Yea, it's "ahead alright", lol, in KNOWN BUGS, and it's OLDER too (i.e.-> Should be LESS bug prone because of "experience" & "all those eyes" from the "OPEN SORES" world (of which MAYBE 1% is really truly active in it, instead of b.s.'ing on /. here, lol & the other 1/2 are from Oracle &/or IBM))...

Plus? That's ONLY A KERNEL as you said... &, to that? Here we go:

"First: this is only the kernel. Ubuntu is on 10.10 (11.04 isn't far off), so that's a better comparison, and by that Ubuntu is a hell of a ways ahead of Windows, and it hasn't even been around as long!" - by Anonymous Coward FROM THE /. TROLL "Pro-*NIX ADJUSTMENT BUREAU", lol on Tuesday March 15, @07:26PM (#35498130)

Yes, as you stated... that's ONLY A KERNEL only too, lol, toss on bugs from KDE/Gnome/xfce etc. & also Windows managers + all the OTHER parts that make up a FULL linux distro... (because THAT would be what you'd REALLY have to "equate" to Windows 7)?

The # goes up... way, Way, WAY up. You *THINK* about that...

BUT, LOL... "Linux is 'ahead'" alright, lol... ahead in MORE BUGS (kernel only no less, minus the parts for a FULL distro, vs. Windows 7 in its ENTIRETY):

In fact - Let's use statistics like these from a respected source for security vulnerabilities, like this one, to back me:

---

Windows 7 Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

Sure - 3 are remote... but, they only affect you IF you use those portions, or their "work arounds", to avoid them (which I do both here - I don't use F'd up subsytems, I don't need them is why).

---

vs.

---

Linux KERNEL 2.6x Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

(HOWEVER, again- THAT? That is ONLY THE KERNEL ALONE, not a FULL distro in its entirety (which IS, what Windows 7 basically IS, in the MS world) - so "toss on" the other parts of a Linux distro, lol, watch that number "pull a SUPERMAN" (ala "up, Up, & AWAY", lol!))

---

Still, let's "do the math" & last time I CHECKED? LOL, 6 was LESS THAN 17!!!

(Or has "trollism" blunted your math skillz? LOL!)

---

"Second: The NT Kernel in Windows 7 is only 6.1, and that's completely different version numbers than Linux uses. You could say that this is more like version 50 of the Linux kernel (probably beyond that)" - by Anonymous Coward FROM THE /. TROLL "Pro-*NIX ADJUSTMENT BUREAU", lol on Tuesday March 15, @07:26PM (#35498130)

They're BOTH the same relative age... &, around the year 1992-1994 (NT 3.5x & Slackware Linux (one I used then) 1.0) for becoming TRULY available to the masses... yes, there are earlier versions, but those are the ones folks got ahold of, en-masse, first ( yes, I was "there" for both & on both).

(And, face it: Linux 2.6x IS way older & therefore OUGHT to have less bugs, due to "all those 'Open SORES' (LOL) eyes poring over it (those that don't 'troll' others here like "some people" do, (you) w/ your "faulty 'spin-CON-troll", lol, 'forums - pseudologic'))

And yet? Linux 2.6, despite its "old & busted" age vs. "the new hotness", in Windows 7?? Yes, it has MORE SECURITY BUGS... funny that, eh?? I thought "Linux was SO secure"... see ANDROID on that note (lol, it's a LINUX after all!).

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Third: I'd rather use a kernel that was so good it never needed to surpass 2.6 than one that had so many problems it had to elevate to version 6 or even 6.1." - by Anonymous

Yea, it's "ahead alright", lol, in KNOWN BUGS, and it's OLDER too (i.e.-> Should be LESS bug prone because of "experience" & "all those eyes" from the "OPEN SORES" world (of which MAYBE 1% is really truly active in it, instead of b.s.'ing on /. here, lol & the other 1/2 are from Oracle &/or IBM))...

Plus? That's ONLY A KERNEL as you said... &, to that? Here we go:

"First: this is only the kernel. Ubuntu is on 10.10 (11.04 isn't far off), so that's a better comparison, and by that Ubuntu is a hell of a ways ahead of Windows, and it hasn't even been around as long!" - by Anonymous Coward FROM THE /. TROLL "Pro-*NIX ADJUSTMENT BUREAU", lol on Tuesday March 15, @07:26PM (#35498130)

Yes, as you stated... that's ONLY A KERNEL only too, lol, toss on bugs from KDE/Gnome/xfce etc. & also Windows managers + all the OTHER parts that make up a FULL linux distro... (because THAT would be what you'd REALLY have to "equate" to Windows 7)?

The # goes up... way, Way, WAY up. You *THINK* about that...

BUT, LOL... "Linux is 'ahead'" alright, lol... ahead in MORE BUGS (kernel only no less, minus the parts for a FULL distro, vs. Windows 7 in its ENTIRETY):

In fact - Let's use statistics like these from a respected source for security vulnerabilities, like this one, to back me:

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Windows 7 Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

Sure - 3 are remote... but, they only affect you IF you use those portions, or their "work arounds", to avoid them (which I do both here - I don't use F'd up subsytems, I don't need them is why).

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vs.

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Linux KERNEL 2.6x Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

(HOWEVER, again- THAT? That is ONLY THE KERNEL ALONE, not a FULL distro in its entirety (which IS, what Windows 7 basically IS, in the MS world) - so "toss on" the other parts of a Linux distro, lol, watch that number "pull a SUPERMAN" (ala "up, Up, & AWAY", lol!))

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Still, let's "do the math" & last time I CHECKED? LOL, 6 was LESS THAN 17!!!

(Or has "trollism" blunted your math skillz? LOL!)

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"Second: The NT Kernel in Windows 7 is only 6.1, and that's completely different version numbers than Linux uses. You could say that this is more like version 50 of the Linux kernel (probably beyond that)" - by Anonymous Coward FROM THE /. TROLL "Pro-*NIX ADJUSTMENT BUREAU", lol on Tuesday March 15, @07:26PM (#35498130)

They're BOTH the same relative age... &, around the year 1992-1994 (NT 3.5x & Slackware Linux (one I used then) 1.0) for becoming TRULY available to the masses... yes, there are earlier versions, but those are the ones folks got ahold of, en-masse, first ( yes, I was "there" for both & on both).

(And, face it: Linux 2.6x IS way older & therefore OUGHT to have less bugs, due to "all those 'Open SORES' (LOL) eyes poring over it (those that don't 'troll' others here like "some people" do, (you) w/ your "faulty 'spin-CON-troll", lol, 'forums - pseudologic'))

And yet? Linux 2.6, despite its "old & busted" age vs. "the new hotness", in Windows 7?? Yes, it has MORE SECURITY BUGS... funny that, eh?? I thought "Linux was SO secure"... see ANDROID on that note (lol, it's a LINUX after all!).

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Third: I'd rather use a kernel that was so good it never needed to surpass 2.6 than one that had so many problems it had to elevate to version 6 or even 6.1." - by Anonymous

I value anonymity myself, ala:

"You will dress only in attire specially sanctioned by M.I.B. special services. You'll conform to the identity we give you. Eat where we tell you. Live where we tell you. From now on, you'll have no identifying marks of any kind. You will not stand out in any way. Your entire image is crafted to leave no lasting memory with anyone you encounter. You are a rumor, recognizable only as deja vu, and dismissed just as quickly. You don't exist. You were never even born. Anonymity is your name, silence is your native tongue. You are no longer part of the system. You are above the system, over it, beyond it. We're "them." We're "they." We are the Men in Black." - Zed, to Agent J & Agent K from the film "MEN IN BLACK"

But, his post here?

http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2038926&cid=35497848

Man - It's way, Way, WAY "overboard", & designed to "piss off" the Penguins/Pro-*NIX crew around here... which is, of course, fine... but, just too obvious!

(You've got to be more "subtle" I would say to he! How so? Ok, watch below... lol!)

Now, IF one was to really wish to get the Penguins' "feathers ruffled" a wee bit? Well, all one has to do, is cite statistics like these from a respected source for security vulnerabilities, like this one:

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Windows 7 Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

Sure - 3 are remote... but, they only affect you IF you use those portions, or their "work arounds" (which I do both here).

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vs.

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Linux KERNEL 2.6x Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

(HOWEVER - THAT? That is ONLY THE KERNEL ALONE)

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Thus, this count of known vulnerabilities only gets WORSE when the other portions of a complete Linux (again, such as Gnome/KDE/xfce & Windows managers + more)

APK

P.S.=> THAT's how you get "the boys" here going... with stats/facts... pisses them off, to NO end, lol... However!

The only NICE part is, he was instantly "down modded", & so THAT may "hide me" from the inevitable trolls "Adjustment Bureau" that lurks around here to troll anyone that says ANYTHING "negative" (even if true) about *NIX variants... lmao! apk

I value anonymity myself, ala:

"You will dress only in attire specially sanctioned by M.I.B. special services. You'll conform to the identity we give you. Eat where we tell you. Live where we tell you. From now on, you'll have no identifying marks of any kind. You will not stand out in any way. Your entire image is crafted to leave no lasting memory with anyone you encounter. You are a rumor, recognizable only as deja vu, and dismissed just as quickly. You don't exist. You were never even born. Anonymity is your name, silence is your native tongue. You are no longer part of the system. You are above the system, over it, beyond it. We're "them." We're "they." We are the Men in Black." - Zed, to Agent J & Agent K from the film "MEN IN BLACK"

But, his post here?

http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2038926&cid=35497848

Man - It's way, Way, WAY "overboard", & designed to "piss off" the Penguins/Pro-*NIX crew around here... which is, of course, fine... but, just too obvious!

(You've got to be more "subtle" I would say to he! How so? Ok, watch below... lol!)

Now, IF one was to really wish to get the Penguins' "feathers ruffled" a wee bit? Well, all one has to do, is cite statistics like these from a respected source for security vulnerabilities, like this one:

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Windows 7 Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/?task=advisories

Unpatched 10% (6 of 59 Secunia advisories)

Sure - 3 are remote... but, they only affect you IF you use those portions, or their "work arounds" (which I do both here).

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vs.

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Linux KERNEL 2.6x Known Vulnerabilities: (03/15/2011)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/2719/

Unpatched 7% (17 of 256 Secunia advisories)

(HOWEVER - THAT? That is ONLY THE KERNEL ALONE)

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Thus, this count of known vulnerabilities only gets WORSE when the other portions of a complete Linux (again, such as Gnome/KDE/xfce & Windows managers + more)

APK

P.S.=> THAT's how you get "the boys" here going... with stats/facts... pisses them off, to NO end, lol... However!

The only NICE part is, he was instantly "down modded", & so THAT may "hide me" from the inevitable trolls "Adjustment Bureau" that lurks around here to troll anyone that says ANYTHING "negative" (even if true) about *NIX variants... lmao! apk

Chrome's shows a security "bug" w/ FLASH in version 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34532/?task=advisories

PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

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Google Chrome Flash Player Unspecified Code Execution Vulnerability

Unpatched. Secunia Advisory 1 of 2 in 2011.

Release Date:
2011-03-15

Secunia Advisory ID:
SA43757

Solution Status:
Unpatched

Criticality:

Impact:
System access

Where:

From remote

Short Description:

A vulnerability has been reported in Google Chrome, which can be exploited by malicious people to compromise a user's system.

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(Thanks for the information on this, IF you have it, that is...)

APK

What? You can't understand that OSX has had more TOTAL vulnerabilities than Windows7,

What? You can't understand that "OS X" corresponds not to "Windows 7", but to the entire Windows NT series, and that the equivalent of "Windows 7" would be something like "OS X Snow Leopard"? And that the only reason that, 2003-2008, Windows 7 had zero vulnerabilities was that, 2003-2008, Windows 7 didn't, err, umm, exist as a product, as it was released to manufacturing in the middle of 2009? (BTW, is it just me, or is "windowsteamblog.com" continuing in the grand tradition of "expertsexchange.com"? Why is steam condensed on your window worthy of an entire blog? :-))

Unfortunately, Secunia neither offers a page for the Windows NT family as a whole, nor for individual releases of Mac OS X (although they do offer pages for individual releases of iOS!), so there's no way to compare, for example, Windows 7 and OS X Snow Leopard, but if, for example, we compare Windows 7 and OS X statistics in 2010 (that being the only year in which both Windows 7 and OS X Snow Leopard were available for the entire year), we have 47 advisories for Windows 7, 20 of which are critical, and 6 of which, 4 non-critical, are unpatched, and 12 vulnerabilities for Snow Leopard, 8 of which are critical, and 2 of which, both non-critical, are unpatched. Statistics for 2009, where they were both available for approximately the same amount of time, and for 2011, where they are available for exactly the same amount of time, are left as an exercise for the reader.

Then again, if Windows 7 in its entirety has more lines of code than Snow Leopard in its entirety, that might just be a case of "the same number of vulnerabilities per line of code, or fewer vulnerabilities per line of code, but they have more lines of code", so it's not clear that, even once you compare particular OS versions, rather than comparing a particular version of one OS to all versions of another OS, you necessarily have an easy way for fanboys or foeboys of one particular OS to validly beat up another OS or defend a particular OS.

What? You can't understand that OSX has had more TOTAL vulnerabilities than Windows7,

What? You can't understand that "OS X" corresponds not to "Windows 7", but to the entire Windows NT series, and that the equivalent of "Windows 7" would be something like "OS X Snow Leopard"? And that the only reason that, 2003-2008, Windows 7 had zero vulnerabilities was that, 2003-2008, Windows 7 didn't, err, umm, exist as a product, as it was released to manufacturing in the middle of 2009? (BTW, is it just me, or is "windowsteamblog.com" continuing in the grand tradition of "expertsexchange.com"? Why is steam condensed on your window worthy of an entire blog? :-))

Unfortunately, Secunia neither offers a page for the Windows NT family as a whole, nor for individual releases of Mac OS X (although they do offer pages for individual releases of iOS!), so there's no way to compare, for example, Windows 7 and OS X Snow Leopard, but if, for example, we compare Windows 7 and OS X statistics in 2010 (that being the only year in which both Windows 7 and OS X Snow Leopard were available for the entire year), we have 47 advisories for Windows 7, 20 of which are critical, and 6 of which, 4 non-critical, are unpatched, and 12 vulnerabilities for Snow Leopard, 8 of which are critical, and 2 of which, both non-critical, are unpatched. Statistics for 2009, where they were both available for approximately the same amount of time, and for 2011, where they are available for exactly the same amount of time, are left as an exercise for the reader.

Then again, if Windows 7 in its entirety has more lines of code than Snow Leopard in its entirety, that might just be a case of "the same number of vulnerabilities per line of code, or fewer vulnerabilities per line of code, but they have more lines of code", so it's not clear that, even once you compare particular OS versions, rather than comparing a particular version of one OS to all versions of another OS, you necessarily have an easy way for fanboys or foeboys of one particular OS to validly beat up another OS or defend a particular OS.

"Ask, & YE SHALL RECEIVE":

"Post an exploit or shut up." - by RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) on Monday February 28, @05:14PM (#35342006)

Ok, & REMOTELY EXPLOITABLE too:\

FROM -> http://secunia.com/advisories/38066/

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PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

Apple Mac OS X "strtod()" Floating Point Parsing Memory Corruption

Unpatched. Secunia Advisory 12 of 12 in 2010. 2,181 views.

Release Date: 2010-01-12
Secunia Advisory ID: SA38066
Solution Status: Unpatched

Criticality: System access

Impact: DoS

Where: From remote

Short Description:

A vulnerability has been discovered in Mac OS X, which can be exploited by malicious people to potentially compromise a vulnerable system. [Read More]

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Oh man, I just GOTTA do it:

ROTFLMAO!

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" I'm seriously tired of your unhinged rants." - by RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) on Monday February 28, @05:14PM (#35342006)

LMAO - apparently not, because I have kicked your ASS, yet again... & I answer all questions put to me, with proofs (just like you asked for above, lol, much to your OWN dismay, as per your usual)...

APK

P.S.=> Want more of them? Ok, see here (as to MacOS X being "more secure than Windows7"):

http://secunia.com/advisories/38066/

That shows the rest of the UNPATCHED VULNERABILITIES on MacOS X... & new NEWS/NewsFlash:

IT'S MORE THAN WINDOWS 7 HAS, period... apk

"Ask, & YE SHALL RECEIVE":

"Post an exploit or shut up." - by RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) on Monday February 28, @05:14PM (#35342006)

Ok, & REMOTELY EXPLOITABLE too:\

FROM -> http://secunia.com/advisories/38066/

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PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

Apple Mac OS X "strtod()" Floating Point Parsing Memory Corruption

Unpatched. Secunia Advisory 12 of 12 in 2010. 2,181 views.

Release Date: 2010-01-12
Secunia Advisory ID: SA38066
Solution Status: Unpatched

Criticality: System access

Impact: DoS

Where: From remote

Short Description:

A vulnerability has been discovered in Mac OS X, which can be exploited by malicious people to potentially compromise a vulnerable system. [Read More]

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Oh man, I just GOTTA do it:

ROTFLMAO!

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" I'm seriously tired of your unhinged rants." - by RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) on Monday February 28, @05:14PM (#35342006)

LMAO - apparently not, because I have kicked your ASS, yet again... & I answer all questions put to me, with proofs (just like you asked for above, lol, much to your OWN dismay, as per your usual)...

APK

P.S.=> Want more of them? Ok, see here (as to MacOS X being "more secure than Windows7"):

http://secunia.com/advisories/38066/

That shows the rest of the UNPATCHED VULNERABILITIES on MacOS X... & new NEWS/NewsFlash:

IT'S MORE THAN WINDOWS 7 HAS, period... apk

1st - See subject-line above & "mince words" ALL YOU LIKE, doesn't change a thing about that new problem in MacOS X that JUST CAME OUT TODAY!

"darkComet's a payload, not a vulnerability." - by RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) on Monday February 28, @05:14PM (#35342006)

Yes, "GEE, I GUESS THAT MAKES IT OK!" (not)... lmao!

(It's just out there "doing good" for MacOS X, eh?)

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"Post an exploit or shut up.." - by RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) on Monday February 28, @05:14PM (#35342006)

I just DID... & you're caught "flat-footed" by it, as it is BRAND NEW, lol, no less... & it certainly isn't doing MacOS X users a "favor", now is it?

Nope!

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"I'm seriously tired of your unhinged rants." - by RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) on Monday February 28, @05:14PM (#35342006)

No, what you're "tired of" is trying to "take me on" & failing, everytime... lol!

HOWEVER - On the converse/flipside, here?

LMAO - I love tearing up you FUD spreading b.s. artists from the "Pro-*NIX" camp... as it's just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2EZ'" everytime!

APK

P.S.=> Now, since you RAN from posting anything you've done of note in respected written publications in the arena of the computer sciences (because, you CAN'T, lol)?

Well, ok: Here are some unpatched KNOWN SECURITY VULNERABILITIES that ARE exploitable, AND UNPATCHED, and from a reputable source:

MacOS X UNPATCHED SECURITY VULNERABILITIES

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

(That's MORE than Windows 7 has, mind you!)... apk

Can you explain why there are far fewer exploits for Apache and *nix than for IIS and Windows?

Sure. There isn't.

To Clarify Secunia shows 6 advisories for IIS 7 for 2010 and 33 for Apache 2.2 for 2010

Can you explain why there are far fewer exploits for Apache and *nix than for IIS and Windows?

Sure. There isn't.

To Clarify Secunia shows 6 advisories for IIS 7 for 2010 and 33 for Apache 2.2 for 2010

"I've been hearing "The only reason every Mac isn't infested with malware is that they're not a big enough chunk of the market for it to be worth the effort." for so many years the effect has worn off. Year after year - You know, it really gets old hearing that excuse. If that really is the case, I hope it continues." - by Cheech Wizard (698728) on Sunday February 27, @04:38PM (#35333006) Homepage

Ok then, explain this: Do pickpockets operate on "crowds of 1" only, vs. massive crowds of potential possible victims in crowded city streets, train or bus stations, or malls?

ANSWER = No, they do NOT!

Pickpockets (and yes, online criminals too) go where their efforts expended to "do the job" are most effective for the BEST "ROI" (return-on-investment), from a single method of attack (codebase in malware)!

(And, just like pickpockets? THAT is done by going where the MOST POSSIBLE VICTIMS (users) ARE... & currently (and for decades now), that is on Windows).

You think share of market doesn't matter?

Today's ( & this past decade's), online criminal is NO DIFFERENT than the street pickpocket... and they are BOTH AFTER YOUR MONIES!

Thus - It makes sense for them to attempt to attack Windows on that very same basis (as it IS "where the crowds are").

NOW, ONTO ACTUAL STATISTICS/FACTS & FIGURES of UNPATCHED KNOWN SECURITY VULNERABILITIES: (MacOS X vs. Windows 7)

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Vulnerability Report - Microsoft Windows 7:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/

Unpatched = 6 of 57 Secunia advisories

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vs.

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Vulnerability Report - Apple Macintosh OS X:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

Unpatched 9 of 150 Secunia advisories

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NOT ONLY HAS THE CURRENT MacOS X BUILD SHOWN MORE OVERALL SECURITY ADVISORIES THAN DOES WINDOWS 7, BUT, IT ALSO HAS MORE KNOWN OUTSTANDING UNPATCHED KNOWN SECURITY VULNERABILITIES THAN DOES Windows 7... period!

(So, "argue with the numbers"... & good luck!)

Lastly - I hope one of you tries the "local/local network" vs. "remote" tactic "spin-CON-troll" too, because I'll use what I used on the Linux crew a few days back in regards to THAT little "trick" too, due to how malwares today are being constructed... & they are NOT "your dad's oldsmobile" anymore...

APK

P.S.=> Here's a list of problems MacOS X has had in its tenure, for those of you that are interested, that I've been compiling for a few years now - So, "chew on these" (35 of them, or thereabouts...):

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MacOS X - A Worm for Your Apple MacOSX:

http://www.beskerming.com/commentary/2007/07/18/222/A_Worm_for_Your_Apple

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MacOS X - Another Mac Trojan/Fake Codec - Security Watch:

http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2007/11/another_mac_trojanfake_codec.php

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Apple's FaceTime for Mac debuts with security holes:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/21/apple_facetime_security_hole/

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Apple Patches OS X Flaws:

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Apple/Apple-Patches-OS-X-Flaws/

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Apple patches QuickTime to root out 15 ugly vulns:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/09/apple_patches_quicktime_again/

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Appleâ(TM)s Snow Leopard Is Less Secure Than Windows, But Safer:

"I've been hearing "The only reason every Mac isn't infested with malware is that they're not a big enough chunk of the market for it to be worth the effort." for so many years the effect has worn off. Year after year - You know, it really gets old hearing that excuse. If that really is the case, I hope it continues." - by Cheech Wizard (698728) on Sunday February 27, @04:38PM (#35333006) Homepage

Ok then, explain this: Do pickpockets operate on "crowds of 1" only, vs. massive crowds of potential possible victims in crowded city streets, train or bus stations, or malls?

ANSWER = No, they do NOT!

Pickpockets (and yes, online criminals too) go where their efforts expended to "do the job" are most effective for the BEST "ROI" (return-on-investment), from a single method of attack (codebase in malware)!

(And, just like pickpockets? THAT is done by going where the MOST POSSIBLE VICTIMS (users) ARE... & currently (and for decades now), that is on Windows).

You think share of market doesn't matter?

Today's ( & this past decade's), online criminal is NO DIFFERENT than the street pickpocket... and they are BOTH AFTER YOUR MONIES!

Thus - It makes sense for them to attempt to attack Windows on that very same basis (as it IS "where the crowds are").

NOW, ONTO ACTUAL STATISTICS/FACTS & FIGURES of UNPATCHED KNOWN SECURITY VULNERABILITIES: (MacOS X vs. Windows 7)

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Vulnerability Report - Microsoft Windows 7:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/27467/

Unpatched = 6 of 57 Secunia advisories

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vs.

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Vulnerability Report - Apple Macintosh OS X:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/?task=advisories

Unpatched 9 of 150 Secunia advisories

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NOT ONLY HAS THE CURRENT MacOS X BUILD SHOWN MORE OVERALL SECURITY ADVISORIES THAN DOES WINDOWS 7, BUT, IT ALSO HAS MORE KNOWN OUTSTANDING UNPATCHED KNOWN SECURITY VULNERABILITIES THAN DOES Windows 7... period!

(So, "argue with the numbers"... & good luck!)

Lastly - I hope one of you tries the "local/local network" vs. "remote" tactic "spin-CON-troll" too, because I'll use what I used on the Linux crew a few days back in regards to THAT little "trick" too, due to how malwares today are being constructed... & they are NOT "your dad's oldsmobile" anymore...

APK

P.S.=> Here's a list of problems MacOS X has had in its tenure, for those of you that are interested, that I've been compiling for a few years now - So, "chew on these" (35 of them, or thereabouts...):

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MacOS X - A Worm for Your Apple MacOSX:

http://www.beskerming.com/commentary/2007/07/18/222/A_Worm_for_Your_Apple

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MacOS X - Another Mac Trojan/Fake Codec - Security Watch:

http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2007/11/another_mac_trojanfake_codec.php

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Apple's FaceTime for Mac debuts with security holes:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/21/apple_facetime_security_hole/

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Apple Patches OS X Flaws:

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Apple/Apple-Patches-OS-X-Flaws/

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Apple patches QuickTime to root out 15 ugly vulns:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/09/apple_patches_quicktime_again/

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Appleâ(TM)s Snow Leopard Is Less Secure Than Windows, But Safer: