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There was a huge blow-up between Brett Gurewitz (owner of Epitaph and ex-Bad-Religion guitarist) and The Offspring quite a while ago. The Offspring tell their side here, the official announcement is here, and Brett Gurewitz proves that he is a money grubbing dick beyond compare here (ps. the interview is all lies). I love when the interviewer asks Brett how he feels about being punk and in his 30's, he starts spouting about sticking to his ethics.
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Sadly,
There was a huge blow-up between Brett Gurewitz (owner of Epitaph and ex-Bad-Religion guitarist) and The Offspring quite a while ago. The Offspring tell their side here, the official announcement is here, and Brett Gurewitz proves that he is a money grubbing dick beyond compare here (ps. the interview is all lies). I love when the interviewer asks Brett how he feels about being punk and in his 30's, he starts spouting about sticking to his ethics.
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Impressive (Score:1)
by MtnMan1021
(jbr [at] nassau [dot] cv [dot] net) on 08:19 PM October 26th, 1999 GMT
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Looks like "flipz" is more than just a script kiddie: attrition lists her as having cracked jpl, duracell, people's bank, a bunch of .mils, department of veteran affairs and some other stuff. http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/flipz.ht ml
she doesn't seem to be very creative in her replacements/alterations, though.
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Re:Impressive (Score:1)
by whocares
(grey@enigma.mips4.com) on 09:42 PM October 26th, 1999 GMT
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Well shit, I've written my name in marker on federal buildings, phone booths, mailboxes... I'm certainly more than your average defacer of random crap. :)
Seriously. When someone releases information that's of use to someone as result of their cracking, or actually *accomplishes* something aside from defacement... maybe *then* I'll be impressed. Until then - whatever.
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Not Really (Score:2)
by Gleef
(gleef@capital.net) on 08:38 PM October 26th, 1999 GMT
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The sites weren't all that high security. Oooh, the "US Army Dental Care System" computer was compromized, while it is in the .mil hierarchy, I doubt that much effort went into securing it.
I'd say flipz is probably a very busy script kiddie. The cracked sites certainly don't show much imagination.
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Re:Not Really (Score:1)
by TeddyR
(syousif@iname.com) on 09:07 PM October 26th, 1999 GMT
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The problem is that if a single .mil/.gov/etc site is compromised, there is the distinct possibility that other sites can be compromised. Simple example: many .mil sites only allow access to "public" web pages from other .mil sites. The same goes for .edu and .gov sites... The path to a final destination is much shorter than from "the big bad internet"... Another simple scenario would be if although THAT machine was not "secured" since it has nothing of importance on it, there is a slight posssibility that the machine is on a network segment that in turn has access to another segment that DOES have material that may be valuable to someone else...
BTW: The above scenario is exactly why many "high security" sites do not allow employees to have "important" material even on their normal day-to-day office machines..
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uncertainty.microsoft.com (Score:0, Redundant)
by Mooset
(jwsmith@delta.is.tcu.edu) on 08:19 PM October 26th, 1999 GMT
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From the article:Another non-functioning site was "uncertainty.microsoft.com." The purpose of that site was not known.
Whatever it was, that name doesn't seem to resolve anymore. I guess they must be covering their tracks for now, because fear.microsoft.com and doubt.microsoft.com also don't resolve.
:-)
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Re:uncertainty.microsoft.com (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on 04:02 AM October 27th, 1999 GMT
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Score: 0?
Redundant?
Don't listen to that silly moderator, I
thought your post was hilarious. :)
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cracked? (Score:4, Interesting)
by Trepidity
(delirium4u@theoffspring.net) on 08:18 PM October 26th, 1999 GMT
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Hmm. The never-ending hack/crack debate. One the one hand, using "cracked" is obviously inappropriate, since the term already had a meaning in computer security prior to its application in 1984 to people who break into computers. It has, for as long as anybody remembers, described people who break the copy protection of software. This usage far predates the usage cited in the Jargon File (which itself admits to the 1984 date).
On the other hand, the term "hacked" is obviously inappropriate in this case. This system intrusion was merely the work of a script kiddie, it appears, and hence is not any sort of hacking.
We need a verb that means "broken into by a script kiddie," so as to differentiate from "broken into by an intelligent security expert" (which I'll continue to call "hacked") and from "breaking the copy protection of" (which I'll continue to call "cracked."
I personally prefer to use the term "hax0red," which, helpfully, is what they often call it themselves, so it should not be hard to have this term adopted. This differentiates from mature, intelligent people, who use "hacked," to describe their work (whatever that work may be, be it kernel hacking or NT hacking) and the script kiddies who use 3l33t sp33k to describe their work. It also allows "hax0r d00d" to be used as a convenient synonym for "script kiddie."
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Re:cracked? (Score:1)
by kijiki on 05:13 AM October 27th, 1999 GMT
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Personally, I don't see much difference between the "new" (web page) crackers and the "old" (copy protection) crackers. Both require basic assembly knowledge, and the ability to use a debugger. And lots and lots and lots and lots of time on your hands. Obviously I am ignoring those amazing buffer overruns exploits where people manage to get code in through a function that strips out all characters but '9' 'a' and 'q', but your average exploit is not that impressive an achievement. Nor is your average software crack. I fully expect to be flamed by the script kiddies and the h4x0r groupies. Please at least attempt to keep it coherent.
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Re:cracked? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on 10:51 PM October 26th, 1999 GMT