Domain: userlinux.com
Stories and comments across the archive that link to userlinux.com.
Comments · 60
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Re: why gnome over kde?
"what are the reasons for choosing gnome instead of KDE?"
Sigh. It's all here: On the GUI Selection in UserLinux.
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They Better Call It GratisLinuxAnybody noticed that Bruce P. is boasting negotiating with an anonymous consortium of Big Business corporations who want to finance his BruceLinux to the tune of 1 million $US per year?? (It is in his white paper).
So, who is paying for the tunes Bruce is piping nowadays?
His whole points boil down to this: get rid of all GPL requirements, because it is "bad for business".
The idea of Free Software is to share, but it is also to "give back if you received". Qt, used under the GPL requires to give back code, while Qt used under a Commercial license requires to give back money (should you for some reasons not want to comply with the GPL) to the developers whose work you are utilizing....
Has Bruce forgotten the basics he taught me once (a long time ago)?
Bruce nowadays wants to change the emphasis more torwards an LPGL/BSD-style licensing. RMS' and Linus' comments on this move should be quite interesting reading!
Who is writing the secret agenda for UserLinux? Why is Bruce trying to forcefully kick out Qt/KDE?
It is deeply ironic that...
...the former fiercest critics of Qt (who where right then), demanding Qt should be GPL-ed, are today morphing into 'gratis LPGL/BSD' style license advocates, now that Qt really *is* 100% GPL!
...and that the KDE group has now become the fiercest defenders of Free Software and the GPL a la Stallman!
Ciao, a happy MacOSX user -
Quite griping, KDE is not being shut outA quote from the white paper
Remember, whatever choices we make apply only to what we choose to support as a group. Our choices don't cause the alternatives to be removed from Debian, they don't constrain what a service provider can support to their own customers...
IOW, if you want to use KDE, go ahead and use it, no one is stopping you. If they were making changes that made it impossible for KDE to run properly, then there may be a good basis for petition. Not having KDE included in distro XYZ in no way invalidates all the great work they've done to date. (I'm a happy KDE user)
Also the white paper suggests supporting MySQL as the database, Python as interpretive language, and Mozilla as the browser. I dont see postgreSQL, PERL, and Thunderbird development teams getting thier panties in a wad.
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Don't dodge the issue
GNOME was chosen because it allows the development and distribution of proprietary applications WITHOUT purchasing a license from Trolltech.
It isn't about if one is better than the other. He doesn't touch that argument with a 10 foot pole.
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Re:KDE is not to be ignored
Not exactly the same thing, as including both of those doesn't require anywhere near the amount of effort as supporting two development kits...at least, that's the argument Perens seems to be making.
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Re:This Already Exists?
Uh.. from the UserLinux white paper:
Make it Free Software
The core UserLinux system should be 100% Free Software. The service providers will provide proprietary software according to the demand of their particular customers.
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OT, connectiva?In your White Paper, you say that Connectiva is interested in User Linux. I think you mean, Conectiva is interested, but I'm not sure. Connectiva pulls up www.buydomains.com. Conectiva pulls up United Linux, which gives me three languages worth of blank pop up window.
It makes a difference to me because I thought I'd pass a resume to anyone intersted in your excellent project. The first company did not look right, the second one provided me with no information.
Oh well. If you are bored after your marathon question and answer sesion here, have a flower, or a lizard or a spider. The flowers might be nice backgrounds for your corporate desktops. I had fun taking the pictures and hope other people enjoy looking at them. The flower page comes in handy when secretaries do nice things for me. =:>
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Alright
This is enough for me. 50,000 users have a need. Let's fill it. Any room for a web/graphic designer in there? I love being involved in pretty interfaces! ...I am currently in negotiation with an industry group that proposes to fund between $1Million or more annually to pay for the engineering of a fully supported and certified GNU/Linux system, without a per-seat fee, that meets the specific needs of their industry. That group represents approximately 50,000 desktop or server units - do the math and you'll see that they would save tremendously over Enterprise Linux. -
Re:Is this another distribution? What's the point?Please read the paper. That will explain something of what I am trying to do. The main thrust is not a radical improvement in user-friendliness. The "User" in the name is due to the user-supported nature of the economic paradigm I am proposing.
Bruce
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