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Re:Memory Leaks?The definition of page size in this case is: "the sum of the file sizes for all the elements that make up a page, including the defining HTML file as well as all embedded objects (e.g., image files with GIF and JPG pictures)." Try it with as many terms as you want, I'm sure you'll get similar results. How sure are you that I'll get similiar results?
I tried it with your terms, and didn't get similiar results at all.
http://www.google.com/search?q=web+page
1) 230KB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_page
2) 173KB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Website
3) 38KB: http://geocities.yahoo.com/
4) 317KB: http://www.steves-templates.com/
5) 189KB: http://www.howstuffworks.com/web-page.htm
6) 263KB: http://www.wpdfd.com/
7) 199KB: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/frontpage/default.aspx
8) 112KB: http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/
9) 267KB: http://www.benedict.com/
Measurements taken on "Net" tab of Firebug, which lists all HTTP requests for the page and the Content-Length.
This situation is exacerbated, even, by the fact that many responses are gzipped, and the Content-Length in this case represents the compressed length, rather than the space taken by the response in cache (which I assume is uncompressed, but I could be wrong here). -
Encryption? Scrambling? All I want...
I don't know what all this crazy talk about the studios and CSS is about, I just want to be able to use CSS to center things vertically without positioning hacks!
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Vertical CSS Support
As a developer who works with CSS every day, I find one complication that continues to bother me in my daily work. Support for CSS has always been good on the horizontal scope, but vertical positioning has always been quite complicated. Alone the procedure to affix a footer to the bottom of a screen in dependance of the amount of content is unnecessarily difficult, spawning hackish solutions such as "footerStickAlt". Centering an object in the dead center of a page also requires strange procedures such as this one, which still aren't ideal (try making the viewport really small). The old table method provided much easier methods for this. What are your thoughts on this and do you see improvement following in future CSS revisions?
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Re:Jeffrey Zeldman>Are you sure you really bought this book?
I can't prove this unless you want to come over and look at my bookshelf ;-)
Seriously. It's very hard to find a good book on xhtml and css. I've found it even harder to find one that discusses it from a design perspective.
"Desiging with Web Standards" was tempting enough for me to order - I just don't advise anyone to do so. I was just stupid enough to ignore remarks like these:
Further in, the book does a very good job of weaning designers off the dubious techniques that produce obsolete Web pages and gently pushes them forward into using more standards compliant methods.
and some not-so-positive hints by /. readers. Indeed, his style is wordy and he frequently fails to get down to the technicals because he's too busy showing off, explaining why writing this book is so important. The first 100 pages are all about legacy sites and whats wrong with them.
He then continues basically allong the lines of porting your tables based sites to xhtml+css. This may be revealing to some frontpage users, it may even help adapting these standards, but it really has nothing to do with design.
There are many views on design, but from what I learned, this is called redesign, in a bottom up fashion, whereas design is generally top down. He might have called the book "porting to web standard - and why you should consider it". And, at that, he does a poor job - IMHO.
Now, if you want to be stuborn, go buy that book and tell me that it was worth your money. Make the same mistake I did - please. -
Re:A list of the site links?
http://www.csszengarden.com/ http://www.alvit.de/handbook/ http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/basics/index.html http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/ http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/ http://www.cssvault.com/ http://glish.com/css/home.asp http://webhost.bridgew.edu/etribou/layouts/index.
h tml http://www.positioniseverything.net/ http://www.stylegala.com/ -
Re:WEB DESIGNER?
Why is it that almost all of the web design "Best Practices" pages look like something written in 1996? How about clean, professional, shiny-new-looking design sites? Are there any? (Don't answer with Web Page Design for Designers either, although it is/has been an excellent reference at times, I'm looking for sites that are still producing new content, WPDFD is EOL'd)
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An assload of useful online CSS resourcesMisc.
- CSS Wiki! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- Centering advice! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- Centering advice! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- Fix crappy MSIE support! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- tips, tricks and good practice techniques! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- Box model Illustrated! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- links collection! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- links collection! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- links collection! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- Tutorials, Demos, and Hacks! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- Best Practices! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- Best Practices Crib Sheet! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- Best Practices! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- Holly Hack! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- 3 pixel hack! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- Firefox webdev plugin! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- Mozilla CSS editor! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- Debugging Advice! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- Page Building Process! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- selectutorial! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
Lists
- listamatic 2 (nested lists)! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- listamatic! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- listutorial! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- Piped List! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
Floats
- floatutorial! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- float-theory! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
Filtering
- Explorer! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- safari filtering! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
- filters! - + - this is extra copy so this would post
Type Issues
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innovative CSS designs -- Re:Wow...
I have seen some really tricky, innovative CSS designs that challange those complex designs created using tables and such... for example:
Wired.com
http://www.wired.com/
Joe Gillespie's Box of
tricks
http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/wpd1102 .htm
See the sample sites he created in this article.
Botbomb
http://www.botbomb.com/
CSS/edge
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/
And there's undoubtedly more out there...
Accessible pages don't have to be boring - it just depends on the skills of the CSS coder. -
Boy is this ironic...This is kinda funny 'cos I was actually trying to redesign the SUCS site a while back and made a beta based on the old linux.com (I think it also pays homage to Helix Gnome).
If I'd known peoplle were so dead against it I wouldn't have done it... I actually thought that the linux.com site (and therefore source) were distributed under the GNU licence, which would allow me to make and change it as long as I gave credit.
On another note, there is an interesting article on web design lifting and how to prevent it in High Five.
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Boy is this ironic...This is kinda funny 'cos I was actually trying to redesign the SUCS site a while back and made a beta based on the old linux.com (I think it also pays homage to Helix Gnome).
If I'd known peoplle were so dead against it I wouldn't have done it... I actually thought that the linux.com site (and therefore source) were distributed under the GNU licence, which would allow me to make and change it as long as I gave credit.
On another note, there is an interesting article on web design lifting and how to prevent it in High Five.
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It's the Mac
Remember Mac use 72 dpi while others use 96, so if their CSS say 9 pt, you'll get 9 pixel letters.
So, it is unreadable on the Mac :(
O/T, did you check out this month's "Web Pages for Designers" article? Talks about using JavaScript to figure out which browser you're looking with, and loading the proper CSS def for your browser/platform.
I Haven't got it 100% working on IE 4.5 Mac yet, but worth a look: WPFD
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