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  1. Put your money where your mouth is... by Anonymous Coward on Yahoo to buy Geocities · · Score: 0

    If you think Yahoo is an overvalued stock, get yourself an account with Ameritrade, sell YHOO short, and collect a fortune when it crashes. Or continue the near constant diatribe about the standard /. bogeymen - corporations, capitalism, Microsoft - that has made this site almost like a caricature and sadly, a shadow of it's former self.

  2. Stop calling them "hackers" and legimitizing them. by Anonymous Coward on LoU's Iraq/China Attack Correction · · Score: 0

    Umm, the correct term in this case is "hacking organizations." The Cult of the Dead cow and L0pht are unquestionably respectable hacker groups, not hax0r d00dz.
    While there is some amount of hackish activity in the true sense in those groups, they can't be called "hacking organisation". A hacking organisation is for instance the FreeBSD core team or the Samba team. If you look at the site of L0pht (and why the hell are they namming their organization like hax0r d00dz would do ???), you'll see everywhere the word crack ; currently on the site they is an add for "L0phtcrack" with the slogan "Sniff. Crack. Faster", links to obvious crackers sites like "Hackers News Network", etc...
    Yes, they don't infringe the law, but they are constantly, implicitly or explicitly, advocate cracking systems, or idealize cracking as being cool, and constantly use crackerspeak, and crackers attitude (crackers' attitude is close to the caricature of show-offs doing rap music: "Yo my brother, we are cool and mighty and rebels").
    I'm sorry but if I'd see on a site from some organisation with an add with "Rape. Murder. Theft", constant implicit praise of rapes, murders and thefts, and associated with in any reference to a technique to for instance to avoid Russian Mafia's murderers, a note such as "of course as usual these advices can also be used to commit murders, and to get rid of your wife or your neighbor", with links to sites selling weapons, then I legitimaly won't call this organisation a "respectable" organisation.
    I agree that since their primary goal is not cracking, "cracking organisations" is perhaps too much, but since they one of the primaly source of code and information of "hax0r d00dz", and since they are adopting partly cracckers' viewpoint, and entirely their attitude and language, it is indiscutably more appropriate to call them "cracking organizations" than "hacking organizations". Maybe it would be even more appropriate to call them "organization focusing on security problems with a cretinous rebel attitude, hax0r-d00dz language and dubious sympathy for crackers". But never, NEVER, a "hacking organization". Again a typical "hacking organizations" is the FreeBSD core team. For an organization without a idiotic I'm-cool-dude attitude and focusing on security problems, see CERT site.
    And i dunno where ESR got this cracker thing from."
    Probably from Real Life(tm). Get your head out of the lame self-promoting crackers' sites, you'll see that everywhere else, crackers are considered as nuisance, misguided teenagers and at worse hopeless moronic assholes.