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FreeBSD used in NetWolves
Elik writes, "Since I been seeing two different articles about how *BSD been used for the Internet Gateway products from IBM and Stallion E-Pipe, I figures I toss another item for you to review. I currently work at NetWolves We produce four different types of systems running on Intel Compabitible Platform using FreeBSD as the core Operating System. You can check out the press releases regarding the products. Plus, you also can test drive it as well after you obtain the username and password. I figures this will add another reviews for people who are interested in FreeBSD being used for business applications. " This is going to be the last one of these I run, as product announcements (particularly Internet gateway boxes) aren't really Slashdot's thang (get thee to Freshmeat) unless there's a quirk -- something like "BSD used in heart monitoring system" or similar.
I agree--we really don't need any more ads here for random embedded "*BSD-in-a-box" products.
Also, though, you might be surprised that *BSD probably *is* used in heart-monitoring someplace. Most CAT scan / X-ray equipment in the USA and Canada (not sure about brands of machines used elsewhere in the world) runs Linux. A couple of the major cancer centers here in the USA are now entirely Linux on the back end--everything from patient record databases to, yes, monitoring software. I see no reason the same couldn't be true for a *BSD....
BTW, I think it's silly to not post stories about different types of products using *BSD - /. posts a *lot* of stuff that is much less nerds-worthy (to me), and I don't complain about it, because I figure there may be others who are interested in it. As long as it's new, verifiable, and related to computers, I say post it.
As for the blackholing...purely a security measure placed after threats were made against their respective networks.
"In *your* opinion, and based on your incomplete, second-hand knowledge of the facts."
This bit isn't a matter of opinion. The reasons for the blackholes were given at the time they were turned on, as a direct result of the threats. They didn't spring up out of anyone's imagination.
It *is* your opinion. Yes, NetBSD said that's why they blackhole route both Theos and OpenBSD. Yes, that's why FreeBSD and BSDi said they accused Theo, without having any evidence to back their claims, of hacking systems when they talked to the FBI. However, you don't *know* that that's why they blackhole-route him, and you don't *know* that that's why they libel him. All you know is that's why they claim it's okay for them to blackhole-route him and libel him.
It wasn't censured per se.
True, but it was censored, per se.
And it wasn't removed solely because of Theo's involvement.
Nobody said it was removed because of Theo's involvement.
The lack of "jornalistic integrity" was in posting the story to begin with, and was reclaimed in it's removal.
When you make a mistake, you admit it. You don't remove all evidence of it and try to pretend it never occurred. Particularly when you're a news media--you retract stories by releasing corrected follow-ups, not by obliterating them. DaemonNews has no journalistic integrity.
As for the blackholing...purely a security measure placed after threats were made against their respective networks.
In *your* opinion, and based on your incomplete, second-hand knowledge of the facts.
When making such claims, please don't leave out all the details.
I didn't leave out any details. DaemonNews posted a story, and then censored it because it casts *BSD in a bad light, which is against their stated purpose. That's the facts, includes all the details, and illustrates that they are absolutely worthless as a source of news.
Neither you nor I have any first hand knowledge, so it's best just to shut the......
Oh, if only you'd follow your own advice! See, for example, your blithering about the blackholing above....
NetBSD, FreeBSD and BSDI and the hundreds of people involved are all plain wrong and Theo is right.
Theo was always the Good Guy^TM doing always Good Things^TM and half of all BSD developeres are just Fucking Evil^TM accusing poor Good Guy Theo for no reasons.
"As for the blackholing...purely a security measure placed after threats were made against their respective networks.
"In *your* opinion, and based on your
incomplete, second-hand knowledge of the
facts.""
This bit isn't a matter of opinion. The reasons for the blackholes were given at the time they were turned on, as a direct result of the threats. They didn't spring up out of anyone's imagination.
I'd gladly take my own advice, which is why I cut my sentence short. I'm here neither to blither nor bicker, just making sure that anyone who read your initial comment doesn't take it out of context. I merely tried to provide that context.
(Specifically, not mentioning that the stated (by those tho set them) reasons for the blackholes were for security.)
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My comments and opinions completely reflect those of anyone and anything I am remotely associated with.
"And it wasn't removed solely because of Theo's involvement.
"Nobody said it was removed because of Theo's
involvement.""
Forgot to respond to this part too.
That's exactly why I brought it up. Someone reading your initial post may think that that's what you were trying to imply. (Note: I'm not suggesting you did, just that others may see it as such.)
They censured themselves, not Theo. If DN was anti-Theo at all, they wouldn't have posted it to begin with. Again, I know you're not suggesting it was, just making sure others know it.
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My comments and opinions completely reflect those of anyone and anything I am remotely associated with.
It wasn't censured per se. And it wasn't removed solely because of Theo's involvement. The goal of Daemonnews is to bring the BSD together. The story shouldn't have been posted to begin with, not because Theo shouldn't be heard, but because it wasn't the proper forum. The DN editors realized this after the fact, and removed the story and the comments (read: flamefest) that ensued. Nothing was said that hadn't been said many times before (since '95).
The lack of "jornalistic integrity" was in posting the story to begin with, and was reclaimed in it's removal.
As for the blackholing...purely a security measure placed after threats were made against their respective networks.
When making such claims, please don't leave out all the details. Neither you nor I have any first hand knowledge, so it's best just to shut the......
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My comments and opinions completely reflect those of anyone and anything I am remotely associated with.
Frankly, I am not aware of even one CT or MRI that currently uses Linux.
Given that the design cycle on these very complex pieces of equipment is a minumum of two to three years, AND given that Linux has just begun to become officially accepted in the last 12 months, AND given that the FDA is very strict on the approval process, AND given that any company manufacturing a machine of this nature is completely liable if the OS they pick crashes and causes a patient harm (including CT re-scans which "unnecessarily irradiate the patient"), AND given that the manufacturers legally prefer someone with whom to share the blame if this happens, I doubt that Linux will become a force at anytime in the near future.
My considered opinion is that this guy is most likely factually challenged or has misconstrued a couple of research computers in a couple of cancer research centers as ALL.
Before you reply to this post, keep in mind that there is absolutely no opinion expressed here as to the viability of Linux (or *BSD) in such a setting, only a statement of the current facts and the way things work in the medical industry.
This will be the last one you run? This looks like a hardware product to me. Why does that belong on Freshmeat.net?
Why isn't this nerdswerthy news? I'm really bewildered by what does and doesn't make Slashdot standard for which articles are appropriate.
I *want* to hear about these type of things. I'll go to Freshmeat.net when I want a particular piece of oss software.
Slashdot posts other usless stuff. "Blame Canada"
Thats not nerds news is it?
Since we are squashed into our own little BSD sub-page who cares, I ask you to keep posting this BSD related news.