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FSF Award to Brian Paul & Get The Stream
During LWCE last week, LinuxWorld Paris was also going on. RMS [?] was there, and gave this year's award to Brian Paul. Brian is known for his amazing work on the Mesa 3D Graphics library - and deserves lots of credit. They took a *really* big video shoot of it - you can grab the video and a player from our servers at SourceForge.
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Ummm . . . 1.08GB of data ~= 1100MB
.), but can we have a DIVX ;) link, plz?
1100MB on 56Kbps (~6KB/sec FULL throttle) is 52.4 hours!
1100MB on Cable/DSL (say ~200KB/sec) is 1.5 hours!
I know that it's win/mac only (officially . .
Anyway, congrats to Paul -- his work on the lib is awesome!
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Give me a break. The GPL protects the rights of free software authors. It's a Good Thing(tm).
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Also, it just seems rather antithetical to the ideals of the FSF on the whole. They should be about equality and justice, not divisive avarice and glory.
An interesting idea to consider, anyway.
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1.08GB. Could this be the largest ever file directly linked to from slashdot's front page? Are slashdot trying to slashdot sourceforge? I thought they were your friends.
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I my download dialog box is correct, you just posted a link on the frontpage to a 1,000 Meg file (aka 1G). Ignoring the cost (which if people DO deceide to download this would be considerable), this doesn't seem like a terribly nice thing to do. And anyone willing to download a 1G file just to watch an award being given is really out of their minds.
Why not post a file 1/10th this size? Consider this a call for someone to shrink this down to something that makes sense.
TP "Hey there guys, been working on doing some cross promotion."
Hemos "No way dude, these open source freaks get all high and mighty when they see the hand of money meddling."
TP "No problem, I was looking over the alogrithem we use to determine which projects are hot and which are not. An important component of the matrix is number of bits downloaded"
Hemos "I see, let me what I can do."
Seeing as this is the only explanation other than insanity, you KNOW it must be true.
I'm glad to see that SGI has not tried to do anything to stop or hinder the mesa3d project. SGI has allowed him to succeed where others have hindered. Anyone remember 3dfx getting pissed off when creative labs made a glide wrapper for their tnt card?
As i have heard, SGI has done nothing but help this guy and the project. I'm very glad to see that.
Chalk another one up for sgi.
Linux really badly needs DirectX support, otherwise, the games developers will give up on it as a platform.
I mean, OpenGL and MESA may be technically superior, but if nobody writes any games for them, Linux will be starved of quality software.
Linux developers need to swallow their pride, and take a trip to microsoft where there is a full and comprehensive spec sheet. I believe its 'open source' too.
All thats getting in the way of a complete directX implementaiton for linux, is the pride of a few developers.
Not everything microsoft does is bad even I can see that(and I hate them!!!).
Would you mind reposting the movie in a compressed streaming format that is not platform-specific? Apart from the fact that a 1 GB uncompressed (or at least badly-compressed; you can fit over 3 hours of DivX in that size, and i doubt this is a 3-hour presentation) stream is rather crappy to begin with, having it being only playable on some non-standard player available only on the Slashcode servers and not ported to anything other than Linux is even worse.
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Actually, I am quite pleased someone actually has the source to their videos availible for once. Every time I get a trailer, or a cool movie, I usually end up asking the author for a vob/mpeg2 version. 90% of the time they laugh, sometimes the actually give me one. I like downloading those small, horrible looking, headache inducing, small videos as a preveiw(which in this case, wasn't availible), and if the first thing that goes through my head isn't "this sucks", I usually try to get a vob. Thank you for actually posting the full video, although it would have been nice to include a DiVX version as a preview(which I could make easily, its just the servers/my net connection is pretty loaded, so it might take me a while to get the source).
Holy hell. How many people actually downloaded this? That's the biggest file I've seen online or elsewhere.
Ripping off? I see a conflict of idealogy. If you put it into the public domain, you want people to use it. You have given permission for anyone to use it in any manner they want. How can that be ripping off? Oh, I know - you've got that strange notion that freedom only comes through forcing others to conform to your licensing ideas...
Mind you, I don't disagree with the sentiment, but it seems kind of silly to try and sneak this in the back door.
Then again, I could be just crazy.
-B
Not that this wasn't entirely predictable.
You might be interested in reading my rant on half-empty.
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DirectX is an absolute piece of shit from a programmer's standpoint. The API could only be described as "grotty" on the inside (c.f. library versions and context pointers, or the gawdawfulisms that are inherent in win32 to begin with like the code needed to open the simplest window). By comparison OpenGL's api is incredibly well laid-out. The two offer a similar set of features (OpenGL works just was well with 2d or isomorphic setups, linear transformations being what they are), but DX puts you through a lot more pain to get at them. If you were a programmer and you just had to use a DirectX-like API to feel happy, see SDL, which provides many of the gruntwerk features of DX and is much cleaner (and is cross platform). (NB: SDL doesn't do 3d or drawing primitives itself but there are many, many addon modules to accomplish this stuff; OpenGl rendering contexts are provided, see the SDLization of the NeHe tutorials on the sdl site.)
WRT speed, well, OpenGL on linux is an interesting question. At best it's second fiddle to mature OpenGl platforms like SGI. But if you have an NVIDIA card or one of the DRI-supported cards you're probably set to play most games. True, many games are coded in DX, but OpenGL is far from dead (Q3 is native opengl, as are all the Q3-engine-using games; UT works very well in opengl mode, etc. (I like FPS games so that's where my examples are coming from.)).
Anyway, linux already has the beginnings of pretty good DirectX support in the form of the recent developments from the Wine camp. For me the litmus test is "can I play StarCraft on Linux?", and the answer is "yes." :-) (Now if I could just find my fscking StarCraft disk :-/ moving sucks.)
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creating nothing more than a system by which they may exploit the rights of genuine coders who wish to make their work truly free
And they do this how?
"Today, we've switched Joe Programmer's normal license with the GPL. "
"Shhh.. Let's see if he notices.. "
"Joe can't tell the difference!"
" GPL, now with Flavour Crystals!"
(apologies to Folgers).
They wish to spread the evil practice of licensing, and even attempt to say that such licensing will aid in giving software freedom! How ridiculous is that!
That's like saying that you shouldn't grab your guns and pop off a few enemy soldiers when the Canadians decide to conquer Buffalo, because then "you'll only serve to further the spread of war and violence, which are bad, mmmkay?". Software companies fight the freedom of code and users with onerous licenses, we fight back with licenses.
There is only one way to truly free content[snip]
Sure is! Let each programmer freely choose his license, and let him be secure in the fact that someone else isn't going to flame him for it. That's freedom.
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Um. I hate to say it, but this vlc program appears to be a piece of junk. However, it's the only program that I've tried so far that decodes anything. I tried xine, and it has messages flying by about some demux error. OMS, well, I can't even figure out if I'm getting oms to run, nonetheless play this thing.
./configure, etc, but there's no way in hell I would be able to debug it.
I'm an utter moron when it comes to a lot of this video stuff. I can run
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So, you want 1000's of people to simultaneously downlad a 1GB file from slashcode.srouceforge.net eh? No problem. My dsl line will now suck (what appears to be) about 30kBps of your bandwidth for the next oh, 7 hours. I can spare it. Can you?
Hmm ... I'm now 300meg into the file with *gasp* Internet Explorer ... Opera crashed on first sight of that thing, and I my Linux box doesn't have a gig free ... Maybe I _should_ finally compile wget for Windoze :-)
1 gig file. Damn. Getting 40 K though.... only 8 hours left. :)
This is, in a geeky way, kind of cool. I've never downloaded a 1 gig file before.
In anycase, I want a server that can handle this shit, and whatever upstream connection that box has. It'd be a hell of a warez server
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Has anyone actuallly seen this video???
Maybe it's Really Good!
i bet it includes the director's cut, comments from the award givers, alternative endings, and maybe even an interactive first person ceremony at the end!
i can't wait (the 2 hours it'll take) to see this! i'm as excited with anticipation as when i stood in line 30+ days for Star Wars tickets!
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That just about says it all.
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This is an MPEG2 stream. Yes, it's huge. And it's very bad quality. But at least, it is platform independant. DivX isn't OpenSource, and isn't even platform independent (x86 only), while there are MPEG2 players for almost all platforms. As for the player, it runs under Linux, but also all flavours of Unix, as well as BeOS and even Hurd ! Talk about non-standard player. Tsk.
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file(1) only says it's data ;-(
It is worth pointing out that Mesa is distributed under a BSD-style license. (was LGPLed) But the FSF still recognizes it and award its author. It is great that despite FSF's preference for the GPL, this preference does not turn into bias in the award selection process and BSDed software authors have the same opportunity as GPLed software authors to earn the award.
Free Software: the software by the people, of the people and for the people. Develop! Share! Enhance! Enjoy!
and in just several hours, VA Linux will have it deposited for my viewing pleasure. Most of the discs I've BOUGHT I can't seem to watch.
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I tried xine, and it has messages flying by about some demux error.
That's my fault - I'm the Xine documentation guy and I'm still hacking my SGML. The reason for the demux error is you live in the United States, where the legality of non MPAA licensed DVD players is undertain. Therefore, the version of xine you downloaded off sourceforge is not able to work with the content scrambling system used on most DVDs.
Those of us that live elsewhere in the world can download binary packages and source from non-US countries
> Sure is! Let each programmer freely choose his license, and let him be secure in the fact that someone else isn't going to flame him for it. That's freedom.
Yeah, but what if you're a multiclass "troll/hacker" and you chose the license as flamebait? Shouldn't freedom allow flaimbaiters to get flamed when they want to?
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From this point, any company can take it, slap their name on it, make it their proprietary work, and sell it without giving you any credit. They can also deny you the ability to use any changes they make.
That doesn't sound like freedom to me, it sounds like opening yourself to exploitation.
The motivation of free software authors is usually the boost they get from people using their software. Take that away and there's no point in writing it.
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Good one. You actually sounded like a vicious license zealot. May I suggest next time, you base the troll on the premise that "FSF? Communist? They're just enforcing Christian sharing morality in an increasingly immoral and cut throat society." Early enough, it should get you a +5 Interesting..
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If you want to go above 100 Mbps (as described below) you would almost certainly buy an OC3 (Optical Carrier, 155 Mbps), OC12 (622 Mbps), or above. DSx facilities aren't in common usage due to the much higher capacity of fiber.
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RTFJ.