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Gambit Thirty-Two writes "Old news, but Sendmail has ported their MTA to Linux390." And in other news: sitz writes "It would appear as though some madman has port apache to WinCE <Insert witty beowulf comment here>. It's only been tested on a couple of platforms (including the Jornada 720, and is 'based on the WinNT port, with lots of dirty modifications'. That's still pretty swanky. I've also set up a mirror of this site, which will be up for a couple of weeks." Update: 08/27 15:19 PM GMT by H : Yes, the Sendmail story is a dupe - somebody didn't read my story before posting his. *grin*
A HREF="http://slashdot-at-synack-dot.org">Gambit Thirty-Two writes "Old news, but Sendmail has ported their MTA to Linux390." And in other news: sitz writes "It would appear as though some madman has port apache to WinCE . It's only been tested on a couple of platforms (including the Jornada 720, and is 'based on the WinNT port, with lots of dirty modifications'. That's still pretty swanky. I've also set up a mirror of this site, which will be up for a couple of weeks."
The link is broken.
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Yup, I already read it somewhere. If I would remember where, I would post a link to it.
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Is that Sendmail bit really so important we have to read it twice? In a row?
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Isn't the previous stroy about Sendmail on the IBM mainframe too?
OK, this post is really screwed up. Someone needs to fix the broken link and rethink the organization of the paragraph there. I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't appreciate the "stream of conciousness" style writing in this one...
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The bug is clear, it was MS NT.
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BTW: does anyone have any info on getting an abacus to use wireless ethernet? I thought linksys made an adapter, but I can't seem to find one at BestBuy...
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Yet another STUPID port! Except for the ability to say yes that is a web server in my pocket and no I am NOT happy to see you....I see no point (well, not much of one anyway). How come they can't port useful things like gtk and the GIMP to WinCE? I would do it except I would NOT be the guy to take this as a learning C project! :) But seriously, I would pay for a WinCE version of the Gimp! All other graphics editors on WinCE suck. I would buy a Compaq Ipaq.....but until there's sync and all pim support for either Linux or Windows, I will NOT run Linux on a iPaq.
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At work here we have the MSDN Subscription, and we have all the MS software. (but no games) 3 binders full of cd and this does not include the 2 for technet and 1 for marketing.
One day I was browsing thru the cds and found, "SQL Server for Windows CE"
hmm... for fun I enjoy launching DDoS attacks against 127.87.42.5
... hemos is going to post a goatse or compugeek link and not even realize it for several hours. What an idiot.
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Has anyone thought if bluetooth actually takes off, how cool this would be? We could have the WWWW and the W4c (Wireless World Wide Web). :-)
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Couldn't put your thoughts in any more of a simpler way.. congratulations on your exquisite post.. you goat licking crap monkeying whale humping AC!
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no need to have a big hype about sendmail... because it is THE worst/most insecure mail server out there... how could anybody in their right mind run Sendmail? i have no idea... you know there's a nice little mail server out there called Exchange? runs like a beauty
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It's fun. And a cool hack. Some of us get into that sort of thing. Really, what's the point of porting a server OS (such as, say, Linux) to a Palm Pilot? Palm OS is already perfectly good for running a Palm, so why do the port? Because it's fun.
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Well. Apparently /. is having trouble with link tags and HTML tags eh? Someone better go up and clean up the mess :)
/.'s new cluster going up and down, maybe it's based on CE. :)
Porting is cool and all, being able to run anything on anything is neat. But sometimes if you look at ports you have to just ask yourself.... why? And what's the deal with a beowulf cluster of wince devices? You would be better off just making a beowulf cluster of 486 dx 100's or older Pentiums, and you could probably make it 2 or 3 times as big. It's interesting to see stuff ported to WINCE Devices since the hardware is so different, but how decent a server platform is WINCE really?
Anyway. I guess it's kind of cool, but more than anything else, it's more of a 'hobbyist/fun' appeal, than having any real world application. I mean I doubt you'll find any 'mission critical' apps running of a wince device. Of course with what I've been reading about
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I have made a port using Napier bones . Perhaps you can build off of my work. I also don't have ethernet running but perhaps we can work together on that!
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Is anyone else here really bothered by the fact that there is no close parenthesis in the story. Just for my piece of mind I have to post a )
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You wouldn't have to scan very far back through old articles to find the original posting of this bit of news. Actually, you'd have to go back one article.
Please make that much of an effort next time.
You don't know anything about programming for WinCE if you say "most NT applications are 'runable' on CE". While maybe not the most extremely difficult porting job to do, there are a LOT of platform differences between CE and NT. You can NOT take an app compiled for NT and run it on a WinCE device-- most noteable because of the CPU differences, but also because the WinCE API is much less capable than the NT API, simply as a way to make sure all platforms get the same features.
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To test, I changed our internal MX records and have sent out an email to my coworkers requesting help testing, and to have their advice.
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does this mean i can use my dreamcast as a web server now?
What's the point of running a server on a device that spends 99% of it's time not on a network?!
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Will the poor shmuck's PDA suddenly burst into flames? I'd pay good money to see that.
Just the thought of some geek running around yelling "OwOwOwOw" as he beats on a smouldering iPaq in his shirt pocket makes me giggle.
The WinCE apache thing, but then it hit me.
It isn't about the general type of web server that we know and love. It's about a portable transaction platform!
Imagine that you are a salesman, contractor or other individual who travels and does business with many different people in many different places. If you had a 802.11 (I don't think bluetooth will make it) enabled Jornada or iPaq, then you could cary a web-based transaction server with you, wherever you go. You wouldn't need a fixed IP, nor a constant broadband link to the internet.
You could hop on to your client's wireless LAN, or establish a peer-to-peer link to make your transaction server (e-business whatever) appear local to your clients. They could do business with you, and you take your web-site and data with you when you leave. In this way, you could use a near universal interface (web browser) to handle customer interactions, without having to scrawl all of the information in by a flaky pen-based interface.
This would be a very cheap way of doing business, with less threat of being cracked by some script kiddie.
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It might be useful on an Agenda, if it had a cellphone or wireless to a local net. Information from rounds, sales calls, what not, could be formated and displayed as HTML to those interested. A webcam might also be interesting. Why not? Also useful would be SMTA. Breaking that last mile looks like fun that way.
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If you could get this Win CE Apache port working with the Dreamcast Win CE EXE loader and possibly, the Dreamcast hard drive hack.
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Which is what we'll get soon with version 4 of this crud. Wouldn't it be better to have a relatively bugless web server?
I've been running apache on my Cassiopeia for almost two years, i didn't know it was such a big deal! It was a nice way to step into connectivity on CE (apache having such decent docs and so many hackers at bay, it's a pleasure to port it) and also allows me to use my palm browser to browse pages dynamically. Useless? Naw. I can get an XML file from the Bentley manual to my Volkswagen and feed the information for a repair into pocket apache, then serve the info inside the file (including some SVG gfx) at a decent enough speed into my broswer. In a ten to fifteen page repair, i'd otherwise have to print everything out, thus wasting paper and creating a solution that won't last one oil change. Now, I just zip the palm pc in a freezer bag and BAM! Pocket Mechanic.
And for those of you naysayers out there, no, there isn't a paper manual for my engine, just the (poorly) encrypted XML version on CD.
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Doesn't the Dreamcast run a specialized verison of WinCE? Won't the XBox? Hmmmmm....boggles the mind....
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Porting use to have its reason to exist, but now porting does not have any more sense !
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...), deploy it with JNLP, and then type the URL on your PocketPC and Voila ! : you've got it running on your PocketPC :o)
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For instance :
SavaJe XE http://www.savaje.com
Get rid of your WinCE on your Pocket PC and get a full Java2 1.3 SE (yess!), that will totally boost your imagination
Just thing, you to Swing application using a RAD tool (Netbeans , JBuilder,
For those who still thin java is slow and swing an hoax , just go and test it : the best thing ever done since months !!!
SavaJe simply gave a lesson to those who forget that optimization is the key for power
Hope i can get soon a PocketPC without any WinCe setup but SavaJe XE instead
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My initial reaction to the various servers ported to PDAs was "Why???". But the more I think about it, the more potential I see for it.
The biggest gain would be the elimination of proprietary synchronozation software/protocols. Right now, if I want to access my address book from a PC, I have to hookup the cradle (which requires a free serial or USB port, assuming your machine has functional USB support) install the sync software/drivers (assuming you're running the right OS) and then synchronize (which copies everything to the PC, which might not be a good idea if you're sync'ing to a machine at work).
Instead, say my PDA was running a mini-LDAP server that was acting as a front-end to my address book. Outlook, Outlook Express and Netscape Messenger all support LDAP, so any of them would have immediate access to my address book.
Of course, this all assumes your PDA is capable of Ethernet or 802.11.
An FTP server running on a PDA would be perfect for moving files. A web server would be able to serve up your notes, todo list, etc as HTML, complete with editting forms.
One snag I see is that you might not be able to run multiple servers on a PDA at once. In that case, you would need a universal protocol to piggyback everything on top of, such as SOAP running on a web server, then you would just need some SOAP based APIs, and software that could understand them. Hmmmm.
yessss, SavaJe is a cool thing and this thread should be scored 2 !
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