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New mailinglist OpenBSD-IPsec-Clients

Posted by Hemos on

Johan Allard writes "New mailinglist started discussing the use of IPsec clients connecting to a OpenBSD gateway on http://www.allard.nu/mailman/listinfo/openbsd-ipse c-clients. I have also updated the HOWTO describing how to use PGPnet clients with OpenBSD using x509 certificates to authenticate and to use PGPnet's Acquire Virtual Identity feature. Please check http://www.allard.nu/openbsd for more details."

13 comments

  1. Hey, BSD users! Vote in the 2001 Troll Awards! by The+Turd+Report · · Score: -1
    Announcing the 2001 Troll Award Nominations. Please take a moment to
    email me your votes for the following catagories:

    -Best Troll of 2001
    -Worst Troll of 2001
    -Most Improved Troll
    -Troll Lifetime Achievement Award
    -Best Troll post of 2001
    -Best CrapFlood Material
    -Most hated Slashdot Janitor
    -Slashdot Janitor Most Likely to Get Fired
    -Troll You Would Want to Drink a Beer With
    -Troll That You Would Not Want to Be Trapped in an Elevator With
    -Gayest Slashdot Poster

    This will be reposted until the Jan 4th, 2001. I will add the results and let you all know the winner

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    Michael Loves Me!
  2. My Generation by The+Lyrics+Guy · · Score: -1

    The Who - My Generation

    People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    Just because we get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)

    This is my generation
    This is my generation, baby

    Why don't you all f-fade away (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    And don't try to dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    I'm not trying to cause a big s-s-sensation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    I'm just talkin' 'bout my g-g-g-generation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)

    This is my generation
    This is my generation, baby

    Why don't you all f-fade away (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    And don't try to d-dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    I'm not trying to cause a b-big s-s-sensation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    I'm just talkin' 'bout my g-g-generation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)

    This is my generation
    This is my generation, baby

    People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    Just because we g-g-get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    Yeah, I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)

    This is my generation
    This is my generation, baby

  3. Hehe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Anyone else thinks it's kinda funny that an OpenBSD lists uses Mailman? BSD advocates take every chance possible to tote how much better the BSD version of any GNU tool is (except for their lack of a good compiler). Sorry, I just found it humorous.

    1. Re:Hehe by rebug · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Uhm.

      I can't speak for these "BSD Advocates", but am I not supposed to use GNU tools because I like BSD? No one told me.

      It's also funny when GNU advocates get on people's assen about using GNU software.

      --

      there's more than one way to do me.
    2. Re:Hehe by Arandir · · Score: 1

      Many BSD tools are better than the equivalent GNU tools. And many GNU tools are better than the equivalent from BSD. It all depends on what you want.

      I don't know about OpenBSD, but many of the standard default tools for FreeBSD *are* from GNU. The converse situation (BSD tools in a Linux distro) is virtually nil. I suspect that the GNU advocates are the ones that can't abide foreign tools.

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      A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
    3. Re:Hehe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't think of any BSD tools worth having. What are you talking about - ls, cp, rm ? Even these simple tools are more powerful in their GNU versions. BSD has contributed so little outside of its little world. Wake up and smell the coffee.

    4. Re:Hehe by Arandir · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The GNU versions of the basic Unix tools are larger than the BSD versions, primarily because they add a whole bunch of functionality. That's good if you have the space. But it's not good if you're in an embedded or tiny environment.

      One BSD tool worth having (off the top of my head as an example): sh. Plain old sh. On my current system sh is 34K and bash is 388K. Big difference. Guess which shell I want on my rescue disk? In addition, even if bash is your primary shell (as it is mine), it still pays to make sure your shell scripts are bourne compatible. Then if you have sh on your system, instead of merely a symlink to bash, you'll use fewer resources running them. For a busy server or a slow machine it can make a noticable difference.

      BSD has contributed so little outside of its little world.

      It's time for YOU to wake up and smell the coffee. Sendmail, BIND, vi, TCP/IP, lpd, Berkeley DB, etc.

      --
      A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
    5. Re:Hehe by mirabilos · · Score: 1

      Just the compiler toolchain is GNU, and Sendmail,
      though I don't know why - nowhere in the files
      there's a comment about it being GPL, neither
      it is linked to a GPL'ed lib, or am I wrong?

      Maybe as it was with "GNU" Common Lisp...

      --
      My Karma isn't excellent, damn it! (And /. still does not get UTF-8 right in 2012. Wow.)
  4. Whishing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This page is for people whishing to use IPsec clients with OpenBSD as an IPsec gateway.

    Umm, right.

  5. New Year is born, but *BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Netcraft officially confirms: *BSD is dying

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dead

    1. Re:New Year is born, but *BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't matter!

      *BSD has never been about being big. *BSD is about people who love UNIX and want to create a superior operating system working for them. Just look at Netcrafts uptime list and you'll see loads of BSD systems doing what they do best. Being a superior server alternative.

      And with Apple becoming the major *BSD provider in the world the number of *BSD systems vs Linux systems on the desktop is not even a fair calculation any more. A recent posting on Slashdot claimed that Linux clients hitting big web servers was 0.24 percent.

      Soo, *BSD is dying! Long live *BSD!!!

    2. Re:New Year is born, but *BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IIS is growing. Is IIS good??

    3. Re:New Year is born, but *BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Compared to the equivalent BSD tools? Probably.