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January 2002 Issue of Daemon News

questionlp writes: "The January 2002 issue of Dæmon News Ezine has been published. This month's issue has the continuation of the tcsh article, test driving NetBSD, NetBSD's 2001 timeline, an article on embedded BSD, DOSSIER and the Meta project, and a book review of FreeBSD Unleashed."

17 comments

  1. First ph0st by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Rox0r on dood.s

    I 0wn your mod point.

    1. Re:First ph0st by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Imbecile, nobody reads this section, your first post here is worth as much as a bunch of VA Lin^H^H^H Software stock.

    2. Re:First ph0st by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Then what in the hell are you doing here? 'Sright bitch, I'm talkin to you.

    3. Re:First ph0st by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I want to pr0n you in your ph0st.

  2. So which book to get? by Shanep · · Score: 2

    I have The Complete FreeBSD and I was going to get the FreeBSD Handbook 2nd ed, however this new book FreeBSD Unleashed sounds excellent from reading that review and reader reviews at Amazon.

    Is there any point in getting the Handbook if I get Unleashed?

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    War crimes, torture, lies, illegal spying... Would someone give Bush a blowjob, already, so he can be impeached?
    1. Re:So which book to get? by questionlp · · Score: 2, Informative
      Probably the best thing to do is to download the Handbook as a PDF (or a PS file) from here and use that to print out pieces that you want.

      Being the person who wrote the review for Unleashed, I do think Unleashed is a good book, but it doesn't cover the software that I use daily like Postfix, Python and ProFTPD :(

      I have The Complete FreeBSD (2nd and 3rd editions), FreeBSD Corp Net Guide, FreeBSD OS for PC book, FreeBSD Unleashed and both editions of the Handbook print edition. I prefer to use the soft version of the Handbook (primarily the HTML version).

    2. Re:So which book to get? by Shanep · · Score: 2

      I prefer to use the soft version of the Handbook (primarily the HTML version).

      Wow, I have it as PDF already, though I like to sit somewhere are read through a dead tree. As much as I hate to say that, I find reading off the screen distracting and difficult, compared with a book. Which is a pitty.

      I wonder why that is? I find printed man pages make a lot more sense to me. : }

      Would you say that the 2nd ed of the Handbook (online), covers just as much as Unleashed?

      I have this big list of things I want to get done in Linux and FreeBSD, (like setting up a seperate print queue that filters to PDF files, desktop faxing, design of a FreeBSD based CD server, etc) but never get around to them, getting it all done by hand. Do you know from memory if any of the books cover those topics?

      Thanks for the reply BTW.

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      War crimes, torture, lies, illegal spying... Would someone give Bush a blowjob, already, so he can be impeached?
    3. Re:So which book to get? by questionlp · · Score: 1
      I think the Handbook covers more topics, but sometimes it's a little slim in some spots. Unleashed is great to cover the "basics" of FreeBSD and touches more in-depth in a handful of topics like security and Gnome.

      I know The Complete FreeBSD covers Hylafax for desktop faxing. Setting up separate print queues tends to be more of a manual thing (unless if you use Webmin or the like).

      I haven't seen a document on setting up a FreeBSD-based CD server but I doubt if it's too hard to setup.

  3. From the book review... by Shanep · · Score: 2

    Unfortunately, the killall command is not covered, even though it uses the same signals

    Yeah...?

    as kill but it can be more dangerous.

    Might be a precaution for anyone out there also using Solaris, since it will literally kill all. Along with the other risks involved with this sweeping of Gods hand.

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    War crimes, torture, lies, illegal spying... Would someone give Bush a blowjob, already, so he can be impeached?
    1. Re:From the book review... by questionlp · · Score: 1
      Might be a precaution for anyone out there also using Solaris, since it will literally kill all. Along with the other risks involved with this sweeping of Gods hand.

      Speaking as the writer of the review, it was meant as caution for all... I remember nearly dying after I typed in "killall" as root on one of the Solaris servers at work... not knowing that the same command name did entirely different things on FreeBSD and on Solaris :)

      Some people are quite used to use "killall" rather than killing one process at a time.

    2. Re:From the book review... by Shanep · · Score: 2

      I'm glad I read here about killall and Solaris a while back, before I would have done the same, having the bad habit of using killall too much.

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      War crimes, torture, lies, illegal spying... Would someone give Bush a blowjob, already, so he can be impeached?
  4. For practical purposes, the overwheming truth is, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying

    Yet another
    crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently
    IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1
    percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft
    survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share
    ,
    this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD
    is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by
    failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin
    comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com]
    to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD
    faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for
    *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for
    *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market
    share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most
    endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.


    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader
    Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users
    of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD
    posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are
    about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about
    half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700
    users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent
    of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400
    FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet
    posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and
    so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by
    BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead,
    its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major
    surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is
    very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD
    is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD
    continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at
    this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.


    Fact: *BSD is dead

  5. You dope, at least do it right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dead

  6. Growing slowly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I always wait impatiently for the 1st of the month to check out the new ezine, and wish there was more to read. Why come here and see if anything new comes up? Since Deamon News is tilted toward FreeBSD, I guess I will have to write my own OpenBSD articles and submit them.

    It seems that the race between tortise*BSD and hare*Linux may be getting a bit more interesting. What I wish were articles and websites on OpenBSD as a workstation. In fact what do you use when you:

    o need to browse the web?
    o need to print out your resume?
    o need to print a flyer for anything?
    o need to games? (I'll admit, that is a trick...)

    What are the best options for an office automation suite, that might give MS Office a run, for most simple tasks. eh Kreskin? give us your wisdom..

    :)

    1. Re:Growing slowly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Seems to be lots of NetBSD articles in there; maybe you should switch to a Real OS ?!?!?

    2. Re:Growing slowly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems to be lots of NetBSD articles in there; maybe you should switch to a Real OS [netbsd.org] ?!?!?

      Then I could read slashdot from my electric pencil sharpener. Sorry, but my quick perusal of the past 6 issues in there shows FreeBSD, then OpenBSD, then NetBSD in number of articles.

      Sort of follows life. Where are the articles on using NetBSD as a workstation?

    3. Re:Growing slowly by glitchvern · · Score: 1