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One Step Closer to Reusable Rockets

FortKnox writes: "One of the larger hurdles that reusable rockets have seen is the destruction the heat causes when in use. Scientists have developed a new thermal plating that hopes to eliminate that problem. The plating is called 'Adaptable, Robust, Metallic, Operable, Reusable TPS', or ARMOR for short. With talk of returning to the moon or landing on Mars, reusable rockets would give NASA a little breath of relief in the funding department..."

18 comments

  1. ARMOR and my windshield by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the most visible problem with reusable rockets is that they will be hit by the tiny rocks that are flying around in space. Sure, a tiny ding here and there doesn't cause any problem, but multiple flights through the atmosphere and in space is just about guaranteed to cause a little more damage than a couple dings eventually. What happens when the ARMOR hull is banged up to the point that its aerodynamics are all messed up?

    1. Re:ARMOR and my windshield by PhuCknuT · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The ARMOR, just like current thermal tiles, is modular and easy to replace. What they are trying to do here isn't make an indestructable heat sheild, they are trying to make one that works better than the current one and is faster and cheaper to maintain.

  2. Commercial availability? by Winged+Cat · · Score: 3, Funny

    Great. So, when is anyone not affiliated with NASA - and who is actually working on ways to drive down launch costs, not just throwing lots of money at the problem without much results - going to be able to get their hands on it?

    Never, you say? It's too expensive/complicated/restricted-for-national-secu rity
    to let us ordinary folks get our hands on it? Why, in the IT industry I come from, son, we have a word for that: "vaporware".

  3. Next up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Scientist will develop a true marvel: the reusable condom.

    I'm really getting sick of reusing this damn stiff ranky thing every night.

    1. Re:Next up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Actually, the first ones were reused. Without washing them off between 'uses'.

  4. Armor? by LastToKnow · · Score: 2, Funny

    How about Metallic, Interesting, Thermal Harm Resistant Intermediate Layer

    1. Re:Armor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -1, Get A Fucking Life

  5. Interesting Idea by gizmo_mathboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While this is a very interesting idea, I don't see how NASA will hope to implement this or the 2nd gen RLV initiatives.

    With their budgets not growing, lots of that budget earmarked for things other than direct space and aeronautical research. NASA has had to stop the research into hypersonic vehicles (X-43 project) among other projects.

    It is good to see that ideas are being created, it's too bad that they might not be implemented

  6. Wrong Category by Perdo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not "Science"

    "Marketing"

    You have to look for the key words.

    robust, temperature-thwarting, easily maintainable, economically viable, fast turnaround times, durable, increases the flight envelope of the vehicle, safer, reliable, less expensive, high flight rates, quick turn-around, three different features, almost a snap, bigger, lower density vehicles, step in the right direction, comprehensive, long-term plan, intentional, step-by-step approach.

    GAG!

    The current shuttle tiles may be in need of replacement but the way they are plaintively marketing ARMOR, you would think that it is competeing against a better idea from someone else. Perhaps something with some technical merit.

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  7. Funding relief? by sigwinch · · Score: 2
    With talk of returning to the moon or landing on Mars, reusable rockets would give NASA a little breath of relief in the funding department...

    In other words, the lucrative one-shot launch vehicles would be defunded. (Even the NASA shuttle requires so much refurbishment that it is practically one shot.) It is therefore a threat to the gov't gravy train for NASA project managers and prime contractors. Remember that these people habitually block X projects, and they're the ones who destroyed the DC-X.

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    1. Re:Funding relief? by Detritus · · Score: 2
      You forgot the Illuminati.

      Other than as a launch services customer, NASA has almost no financial involvement with current ELVs.

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  8. Isn't this a bit of a kludge ? by Bitsy+Boffin · · Score: 1
    The way I see it this is just a kludge, a band aid slapped across the problem so it won't cause so much pain.

    The real problem is not how to deal with the heat, but how to stop producing all that heat in the first place.

    And the answer to that is to get away from this whole notion that to get something into space you have to ignite a whole load of chemicals in the general direction of the ground to get pushed in the general direction of space.

    Only when the "rocket" idea is re-evaluated and ultimatly ditched can we get affordable, reusable and efficient space vehicles. It wasn't really a good idea to start with - now it's just really bad, if people had realised that from the start we could already be using something like Magnetic Lauches .

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    1. Re:Isn't this a bit of a kludge ? by PhuCknuT · · Score: 1

      The hear sheild isn't really for getting into space. It's for getting back. And the only way to not generate this heat on the way back is a powered descent, which would cost a hell of a lot more than heat shields, especially considering the extra launch weight of all that fuel fo rhte descent.

    2. Re:Isn't this a bit of a kludge ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you intentionally misinterpreted the entire point of the article and of the material's creationg just so that you could say something political like that. Pay more attention next time

  9. How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Damn Amazing Metallic Armor Needed To Improve Uber Missiles

  10. Not True by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These ideas are making into production. They are simply being funneled into Military, rather than into civilians hands (think of the X-33).

    1. Re:Not True by gizmo_mathboy · · Score: 1

      Agreed, but the X-33 is just a hulk of its former self.