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Apple Announces Open Source Design Award

Pzykotic writes: "Apple today announced a new category to their yearly Apple Design Awards: 'Best Mac OS X Open Source Port' for individuals or collaborations. The winners will be announced at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference in San Jose, California, during the week of this May 6-10. Winners receive an 'Ultimate' (Dual 1 GHz/GeForce4 TI/DVD-R/etc) Power Mac G4 system with an Apple Cinema Display."

28 comments

  1. Obvious by Perdo · · Score: 1

    GNU Tools.

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    1. Re:Obvious by bsartist · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ummm... Apple ported GCC and friends themselves. They're even working with the GCC team to get their PPC optimization code into the main branch. It's certainly an accomplishment, but I doubt that even Steve Jobs has the bawls to give the award to himself. :-)

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  2. Think Apple is pricey, win one by DebianDog · · Score: 3, Insightful
    All you coders always bitching you can't or won't affords and Apple, here is your chance to get one for free. Top of the line.

    Go get yourself an old iMac on eBay or something. All the development software is free and if you do not win, at least you will have a machine to run a "free" streaming server from. And yes, there is source code avaliable for Darwin.

    Now, get busy you have till April 5th to do a simple port.

  3. Re:Apple bias on Slashdot? by Perdo · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Competeing with macslash

    "Janski writes "Looks like Slashdot.org now has an Apple section. It features a kind of ugly Aqua-inspired look, which makes things kind of hard to read. Check it out here." I dunno. The Green Aqua look is growing on me. I think they should call it algae. And, to everyone who's been submitting the "Oh my God! What will macSlash do? Slashdot is trying to kill you?" C'mon. There are already hundreds of Mac sites out there. One more isn't going to hurt us. In fact, I think it's a great opportunity, and I hope we can work with the Slashdot gang, like we've worked with others in the "Mac Web" before."

    Somehow that sounds sinister. Like they're going to send some mac addicts with violin cases to Taco's wedding.

    Check their comments.

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  4. Is it me or does apple kick ass these days... by 3nd3r · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You know I started with PC's and Linux - but now for every right reason Apple has convinced me they are visionary and have been for the past 4 years. I even had a version 2 Imac that I sold because I didn't use it - OS 9 didn't give me enough #... Now all I want is an Ibook with enough ram to run Cubase VST at 24bits.

  5. The right direction by elliotj · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know that the award will really make much of a difference to people porting software, but this kind of encouragement is exactly what the Mac needs. If the Mac can really use all the open source software that is out there for BSD and Linux (and by use it, I mean have it ported to work well w/ Aqua and install easily), then the Mac will become even more compelling. And consumers will notice the difference. If they buy a Mac they are a download away from thousands of programs and utilities. With a PC, there may be more software in the stores, but they'll have to pay for each version.

    1. Re:The right direction by bsartist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      by use it, I mean have it ported to work well w/ Aqua and install easily

      You've hit the nail on the head here. Simply compiling and packaging standard command line or X software is not the same as porting it to OS/X. Don't get me wrong - I have a huge amount of respect for the people porting XFree, the people behind fink, and all the others who are supporting Darwin. It's a huge amount of work, for which they deserve proper credit and kudos. But let's call a spade a spade - what they're producing are Darwin apps, not OS/X apps.

      These awards will go to the handful of folks who have taken the extra step of doing a real OS/X port - with an Aqua interface that's compliant with Apple's Human Interface Guidelines, support for Services, hassle-free installs, etc.

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    2. Re:The right direction by tbone1 · · Score: 1
      I don't know that the award will really make much of a difference to people porting software, ...

      Good God, man, have you seen a cinema display in action? There is a reason Apple puts them in drool-proof plastic. I just bought a house and just got laid off. When I saw one at a job interview yesterday and it was all I could do to not plop down the cash for one.

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  6. My plans... by D_Fresh · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm planning a kickass port of this program I like to call "Currency Converter".

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    1. Re:My plans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck buddy, but you'll be competing against my entry, a java based application that converts temperatures.

  7. Re:Apple bias on Slashdot? by lifgrd1979 · · Score: 1

    On an almost related topic . . . .
    The macslash slashbox doesn't appear to be working. anyone else with this goin' on?

  8. What's with the "for-dummies" bit? by Evro · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Apple Announces Open Source Design Award
    Posted by pudge on Fri February 22, 07:06 AM
    from the open-source-for-dummies dept.

    Apple IDE Cannot Access Beyond 137GB
    Posted by pudge on Thu February 21, 07:38 PM
    from the hard-drives-for-dummies dept.

    Apple/Genentech BLAST Boosts Performance
    Posted by pudge on Thu February 21, 10:15 AM
    from the dna-sequencing-for-dummies dept.
    Is that intended as a joke? If so then it's not funny. If it's not a joke then I can't imagine what the motivation behind it would be.
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    1. Re:What's with the "for-dummies" bit? by dthable · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Not only does VA Software stealing code from sourceforge.net projects, they also started talking smack about Apple. Must have recieved some nice VC from Microsoft.

  9. gtk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'd give 5 bucks to the person who ports gtk to Mac OS X. (no rootless X Window doesn't count)

    1. Re:gtk by iMacGuy · · Score: 1

      http://sourceforge.net/projects/gtkquartz/

      Yes, I know it's asleep.

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  10. How could this be anything but... by RobL3 · · Score: 2

    Gimp
    I mean, Fink it great, and the the window managers are nice, but Fink is not a port, and the WM's aren't really needed. OTOH, Gimp is a great open source replacement for the as-yet unavailable photoshop for OS X. Since dividing up a single PowerMac between the Gimp port team might be difficult I hereby offer to take the whole thing off thier hands, thus eliminating any ugly infighting.

    1. Re:How could this be anything but... by bsartist · · Score: 1

      MacGIMP is not an OS/X port. It's an X application that's been compiled on OS/X, that's all.

      When the MacGIMP team produces an Aqua version - that will be an OS/X port, and worthy of an award.

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  11. This should be on the main page. by BeeShoo · · Score: 1

    This is something the (entire)Slashdot open source crowd should know about. It should be on the main page. Many won't see it in here.

  12. Limited? by ScroP · · Score: 1

    Isn't it a little bit a limited contest? They want GUI apps only if you read the fine print.

    1. Re:Limited? by bsartist · · Score: 1

      It's a contest for OS/X ports, not Darwin ports. The fact that command-line applications compiled for Darwin can also run on OS/X does not make them OS/X applications.

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    2. Re:Limited? by morn · · Score: 1

      I'd disagree with your reasoning, but agree with the conclusion - most command line programs only take a recompile, and it'd be a little hard to justify giving someone a top-of-the-line Mac just for recompiling a program. It's not really 'porting'.

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    3. Re:Limited? by bsartist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's really just a matter of semantics. The whole idea of the "Macintosh Experience" can be a little vague, and may not make a lot of sense for someone who hasn't spent a lot of time among "old school" Mac users.

      Basically, anything that isn't consistent with the look and feel of OS/X - that is, any command line or X11 application - is not considered a "true" Mac application by many of the Mac faithful. In their minds, there is a distinct difference between Mac applications, and applications that happen to run on a Mac. So, while Darwin applications will run under OS/X, they're not OS/X applications.

      What Apple is trying to promote with this Open Source category, I think, is the porting of OSS code into "true" OS/X applications that will appeal to the "old school" Mac users as well as recent UNIX converts. It's not really a matter of how much effort is involved; it's more a matter of how well the final result is integrated into the "Macintosh Experience."

      So, while the MySQL team has spent countless hours tracking down some obscure threading and signal handling bugs in MySQL on Darwin, they're less likely to win this award than someone who's spent a day or two knocking together a friendly Aqua client app for MySQL. It doesn't seem fair, if you consider only the amount of work involved, but if you think about Apple's goals, it makes a kind of sense.

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  13. Eligibility.. by jcr · · Score: 2

    Apple employees and contractors aren't eligible for the Apple Design Awards, so I'm afraid that the CoreTools group here can't apply for the Open Source category ;-)

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  14. Darwin by EccentricAnomaly · · Score: 3, Funny

    So are these to be called Darwin awards?

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    1. Re:Darwin by deander2 · · Score: 2

      Oh come on, if you're going to steal my joke, at LEAST don't screw the presentation!

      http://www.macslash.com/comments.pl?sid=02/02/22 /0 238216&cid=5