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Battery Packs for X-10 Cameras?

dustinc20 asks: "I dont know if this is the right area, but being as this is a geek site I'd ask my fellow geeks if anyone knows a way to build a battery pack for one of those X-10 cameras. It has a frequency encoder(?) in the power supply and this makes it more complicated than just supplying 12vDC."

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  1. Duct tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lots of it.

  2. hmm.. by seann · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At radioshack we had wireless cameras simular to X10's (In a way) that also had battery packs! We slammed them on some RC vechicals, threw them in the roof to lay some wire.

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    1. Re:hmm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a great idea. I'll try that when I have to wire my new house. Although, I wouldn't want to lose an RC car in my crawlspace...

    2. Re:hmm.. by tps12 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I assume this was followed by a round of high fives.

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  3. X10 Eavesdropping by c0wh · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Considering how easy it is to intercept X10 transmissions, why would you want to bother?

    (registration required) Here's an article at the New York Times with a little more detail.

    1. Re:X10 Eavesdropping by WayneGayle · · Score: 1

      Maybe because it doesn't always matter that someone could evesdrop on my video signal. I'm getting some cameras to set up outside of my unsecured apartment building because my landlord is too incompetent to make my apartment safe, who cares if someone intercepts that signal?

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    2. Re:X10 Eavesdropping by TheAlmightyQ · · Score: 1

      Maybe because not everyone is as paranoid as you.

      I don't need to worry about people spying on me, because I'm pretty sure anyone who spent any amount of time doing that would die of boredom.

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  4. X10 cameras are a signal of cultural change by forkspoon · · Score: 0

    Why are X10 cameras so popular? Why do people think they are worth their $80 and what do they use them for? Are they being used for surveillence of their families? Or are managers spying on or monitoring their employees? Either of these scenarios are undesirable from the standpoint of the family members or the workers. Who wants to be watched like in 1984? Basically, surveillence culture will lead to a culture of fear of doing anything except what you would be able to do in public.

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    1. Re:X10 cameras are a signal of cultural change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I use them (ok one) as Surveillence camera for my driveway. I it connected to my bttv (hauppauge), I grab an image every 5 seconds, and store them.

      I was thinking of creating a time-lapse video every day out of the images I collected, but I have not had a chance to lookup making AVI or MPEG's from the jpg's (340x280) (17280 frames)

    2. Re:X10 cameras are a signal of cultural change by Rick+the+Red · · Score: 3, Interesting
      The only people I know with one use it to watch their kids. When their kids are playing in the den they can "spy" on them from the kitchen TV. A novelty at first, now they only use it when they hear screams from the den, to see which kid is hitting which so they can add the correct name when they yell "Knock it off!" Much better than when I was a kid, and Mom always blamed the wrong brother.

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    3. Re:X10 cameras are a signal of cultural change by forkspoon · · Score: 0

      It's a short trip to put the camera in the bedroom from the den...this is a clear violation of trust and is sick voyeurism.

  5. What, you bought one? by alnapp · · Score: 3, Funny

    So, you're the one who makes X-10 think their pop up frenzy advertising will work.

    Burn the heretic

    only half ;-)ing

  6. Re:diaper_tales! by ObitMan · · Score: 0

    This is the strangest fuckin thing i have read in a long time.
    Good Job!

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  7. Re:diaper_tales! by PoiBoy · · Score: 1
    That is the most touching story I have read in a long time. You made my day!

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  8. X10 protocol by neitzsche · · Score: 1

    Um,
    The X-10 protocol used the 60Hz power as it's carrier, right? That's how it sends controls to the camera telling it when to broadcast, what frequency, etc.

    So you question must be asking, how to bypass the controls, and always broadcast, as if it's been initialized by battery?

    I dunno. All those damn pop-under ads still make me want to jump up and down on the cameras instead of trying to find you a real answer.

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  9. Well, make sure when you find them... by qurob · · Score: 2, Funny


    Advertise the hell out of them with annoying pop-up ads!

    Whoops, that idea's already taken!

  10. It's really quite simple by crazeded · · Score: 5, Informative

    Seeing as how I did this very thing last night... just grab 8 AA batteries and a holder, then connect the holder to the camera/transmitter. Absolutely no funkiness, just plain 12 volts.

    Of course, you can also replace the crappy camera with a decent one (try Supercircuits). You might want details on the wiring for hooking it up, too.

  11. please buy more of these. by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 1

    I do so love people who support their popunder ads.

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  12. 4AA Batteries... by mini+me · · Score: 1

    A friend of mine had one of those cameras. We hooked it up to his R/C car and drove it around with video. All we did to get was get one of those battery pack things that can be found at radio shack and hooked it up to the camera. It worked great. It may have been 8AA battries, I'm not sure now, but it's simple math to figure out what you need.

  13. Voltage doubler by Tiersten · · Score: 1

    The battery pack has a voltage doubler inside it because it only has 4 AA batteries inside. This only gives 6V which is why you need the voltage doubler. The unloaded output is roughly 15V.

    Just do what another poster did and get enough batteries to make a 12V DC supply. Remember that you can't switch it on or off once you do this since the switiching mechanism is built into the wall wart.

    1. Re:Voltage doubler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The stock battery pack does not appear to have a voltage doubler, and just spits out the 6V to the camera... No X10 signals goto the (traditional, slow-on) camera itself. If you're using the "instanton" version of the camera, I suspect that it uses 3 wires and would be a bit trickier to get it to work on batteries.

  14. 9 volt by JMZero · · Score: 2

    I tried using a 9-volt battery with my X10. No extra hardware, just stripped the wires and pressed them against the terminals.

    Works fine. I use it all the time on little RC cars. Lots of fun.

    Also tried a 1 pint 12 volt lead battery - ran for like 3 days with the one I used. RC car had a little trouble hefting the battery though.

    Of course, I'm not going to accept any blame if you fry yours.

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  15. I'd just like to reinforce this. by daviddennis · · Score: 2

    I have seen the X10 camera at my local Fry's, and the quality goes way beyond bad, far into the range of unacceptable.

    Definitely no good for the sexual hijinx implied by the ads. It might be acceptable as a surveilance camera to show stuff happening in real time, but I wouldn't count on getting evidence out of the horrid, grainy images.

    If it worked as well as the pictures in the ads imply, it would actually be a great toy (and I'd probably own a few). But it doesn't even come within screaming distance of decent quality.

    Whether you want the camera for spying or good dirty fun, it's simply not - ahem - up to the challenge.

    D

  16. yes yes by jbridge21 · · Score: 1

    I think we have a candidate for Most Original Troll 2002 here.

  17. So.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...thinking of filming your h0t neighbor while she takes a shower?

  18. huh? by CMiYC · · Score: 2

    Where did you get your information? Power supplies aren't designed with "frequency encoders" or anything like that. Either a power supply outputs DC or AC. Since solid state electronics require DC, it seems pretty obvious ALL you need to do is strap 12V worth of batteries on it.

  19. Blimp by CaptCanuk · · Score: 1

    I've always wanted to grab an X10 with batteries and stick onto a helium blimp and float it around the house. Attach a food tray to the blimp and you are one step closer to breakfast in bed!

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    1. Re:Blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1)Go down to kitchen
      2)load food onto try after making it
      3)then go back up to bed and use blimp to bring up food.

      Hmm I think it would be better to just sleep past breakfast

    2. Re:Blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's where a willing significant other is indispensable. Or maybe a nearby drive-thru (blimp thru?).

  20. X10 SELLS BATTERIES by ResQuad · · Score: 0

    Ok, I really hate to say this but X10 of what ever the company is sells batteries for thoes cammers and If I remmeber they are LiOn so they last for like a couple ours. Have you looked at the site, under "Accessories" ?

  21. Here are your batteries. by ResQuad · · Score: 0

    http://www.x10.com/products/x10_zb10a.htm

    Right there. Now they have changed them so that they are just a AA battery holder, taking 4 batteries. If you dont care about how it looks, goto radio shack and follow peoples sugestion about a the voltage double (or a transformer).