Comcast Sued Over Internet Data Gathering
saikou writes: "Slashdot already had an article about Comcast using transparent cache systems to track their cable modem users' browsing habits (purely for improvment of their networks, of course) and now here's the follow-up. Newsbyte posted yesterday a story about the lawsuit, demanding $100 per day of tracking for each customer. I guess even if it will work out, customers might get oh, say, $10. With rest being a fee for the lawyer(s) :)" Update: 05/25 12:37 GMT by T : burgburgburg points to a New York Times article about the case, and reminds you of two previous mentions of the controversial user-tracking effort (one, two).
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It's good to see that Comcast haven't, in this case, been able to use general technical ignorance to bamboozle their way out of this one.
It looks as if they actually expected to get away with claiming they needed that info for caching purposes. I hope that they're nicely stunned at being asked to prove why they felt it necessary to tie that info back to individual user identities.
BTW, I presume that most /.ers have always assumed that their ISP was tracking their online activities.
I'm all for this if it can stop a single terrorist or sex-offender. If you nothing to hide, than you have nothing to worry about.
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So... does your browsing habits come out in court as a matter of public record?
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Are you really sure you're innocent? Do you expect your representatives which have been elected by youself to believe into your integrity without needing evidence? A minority of the European Parliament seems to be in doubt and precautiously suspects its citizens at the time being. On May 29 2002 in Brussels will be vote if the fundamental rights of the citizens in Europe as there are protection of privacy, freedom of speech and the presumption of innocense should be abolished. Law enforcement authorities shall be authorized to store any data about electronic communications of EU-citizens. The most important rights are endangered to be sacrificed in the course of fight agains terrorism.
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"In February, Comcast admitted that for a period of six weeks it had been recording information such as the IP (Internet protocol) address of customers' computers as well as Web pages they visited."
It sorta ties to user identities, if you consider your IP address to be an indicator of who is actually using your computer at any given time.
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Need I remind you that if you use Comcast as your ISP you are using *their* networks. Its not like they don't have a right to maintain it anyways they want. Unless the TOS specifically says "We will not log your activity" this lawsuit should be thrown out.
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...that comcast is simply using this proxy system to reduce its external traffic and attempt to make web-browsing faster for its users rather than as some part of some great conspiracy?
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It says 100$ per customer or 1000$ for all customers per day. The first one is extremely unlikely. And 1000$ bucks is not so much - any major company can afford this. They probably made more money by the data.
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I'd heard about Comcast doing this from a local news report; seems like I missed the postings here. Thanks for all the info.
Heh, and as I'm typing this, a "we're hiring" ad for Comcast is on cable... "Enjoy an exciting career with Comcast! Technician! Sales! Spy!"
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It isn't so much the commercial use of this information that bothers me but, rather, that it's being accumulated in the first place leaves the door open for shady government agencies to have access to it in a harder to fight way than something slightly more attributable and, therefore, possible to fight such as Carnivore.
If you think about it, there was no real reason for the FBI to stick their neck out like that with an actual hardware wire-tap of their own when most ISPs would probably bend over backwards to share the info they've already collected for commercial reasons.
Want to know who's been visiting dangerous, subversive websites? Simply send Agent Crewcut to play a few rounds of golf with CEO Weasel and suggest that there might be some juicy government contracts coming up for grabs.
A multimillion-dollar privacy lawsuit on behalf of customers of Comcast's broadband Internet service has been filed in a federal court, according to the plaintiff's attorney.
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The litigation seeks compensation for the approximately one million Comcast Internet customers nationwide whose Web surfing habits were tracked by the Internet service provider earlier this year, according to Steven E. Goren, a partner with Goren & Goren, the Michigan law firm handling the case.
In February, Comcast admitted that for a period of six weeks it had been recording information such as the IP (Internet protocol) address of customers' computers as well as Web pages they visited. The company said it discontinued the practice following news reports and customer complaints.
The lawsuit alleges that Comcast violated the Cable TV Privacy Act of 1984, and asks the court to award $100 per day for each day of violation or up to $1,000 for all affected Comcast customers, as provided under the statute, according to Goren.
A spokesperson for Comcast said the lawsuit was without merit and that the big cable company would defend itself vigorously.
"We have not in any way compromised their privacy or linked Internet usage data to personally identifying information," said the spokesperson, who added that Comcast has never shared personal information about where its subscribers go on the Internet.
In a February statement, Comcast's president said the company collected the surfing data as the result of network changes. After the bankruptcy of its partner AtHome Corp., Comcast moved its Internet customers to its own network, which uses special "proxy" servers from Inktomi to speed up performance.
The lawsuit, filed May 17 in U.S. District Court for the Michigan's Eastern District, lists a Michigan resident named Jeffrey Klimas as plaintiff, and requests a jury trial.
According to the statute, 47 USC 551(b), cable operators are prohibited from collecting "personally identifiable information concerning any subscriber without the prior written or electronic consent of the subscriber concerned."
Goren & Goren is online at http://www.consumerprotection.com .
Comcast's February statement is at http://comcast.comcastonline.com/internetprivacyp
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IANAL, but heres the links to what I believe to be the relevant laws comcast may have violated (mainly for being a cable company) Cable TV Privacy Act of 1994Which in short provides provisions that limit:
(A) the nature of personally identifiable information collected or to be collected with respect to the subscriber and the nature of the use of such information;
(B) the nature, frequency, and purpose of any disclosure which may be made of such information, including an identification of the types of persons to whom the disclosure may be made;
(C) the period during which such information will be maintained by the cable operator;
(D) the times and place at which the subscriber may have access to such information in accordance with subsection (d) of this section; and
(E) the limitations provided by this section with respect to the collection and disclosure of information by a cable operator and the right of the subscriber under subsections (f) and (h) of this section to enforce such limitations.
As well if I'm not incorrect here,the ECPA
More fun privacy law here, Privacy Act of 1974
And of course if they customer has a kid under 13 who they gathered data on there was another law I just couldn't quite manage to find in regards to making this pretty illegal. And you can't make your customers opt out of federal law last I checked.
Anyway, it hasn't been my experience that lawyers take cases they have no chance of winning where the payout is based on them winning.
They are collecting information to keep updated their database about best p0rn sites.
(1) Read the "End User License Agreement" that Comcast requires of its customers--it is in explicit contradition to their public statements w/r to the collection and use of end user communications. [they claim explicit ownership of the data that you place on their networks as a subscriber] (2) If Comcast were to exercise its self-promoted rights under said agreement--and I have some technical evidence that they have--then not only are they at issue with the 1984 Federal satute--but, Pennsylvania's 1996 ammendment to its Cable TV Act. [I would strongly suspect that other states' Cable Acts are cast from the same template] As to no collection of "personally indentifiable information"--that's patent nonsense. The architecture of the the DOCCIS v.1.1 infrastructure that Comcast has implemented requires the explicit registration of every communications device on their network with a specific subscriber account--each datagram produced by every device on the Comcast network is directly identifiable to a specific subscriber account. The nature of the proxy is such that a query on the order of "Show me all data transactions that the household of Smith, John S. has enganged in with http://www.cnn.com over the past 12 hours" is a trivial undertaking--requiring perhaps 15 minutes worth of effort. [the MAC# of the DOCCIS modem is recorded in the billing/user account database--the rest is a trivial filtering/datbase query exercise]
The $100 is exclusive of lawyer's fees. The NYT article states:
Goren, who predicted ``months or years'' of litigation, is seeking attorney's fees plus damages of at least $100 per day for every Comcast subscriber.
For about the past month, any http connection I've made would be really slow and lossy, even though ping times to the sites were good. Anyone know if Covad is trying to set up some kind of transparent proxy on their network too?
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I wonder how it can be reconciliated with the right of "looking at every private data saved on individual, as well as a right of rectification" that some citizen in some European country do indeed have : CNIL for example in France, has normally to watch and applicate fine if this right is not observed.
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All it takes is all ISP to add "you give all right to privacy when you connect with us , and all your data can be sold to anybody wanting them." and then what ? You would be satisfied ? Sorry but you are excetly like the proponent of "opt out". privacy should always an "opt in" to be given up. I hate to think i have to watch every single of my step, watch every single word I type. A bit like a dictature.
Maybe you do not care being observed , but I do even if I do not do anything wrong. Just like I would care if somebody installed camera on my back to observe every on my move, what i look for as information, or what my friends write me as letter.
Yes , it wasn't written specifically "we will not log your activity", but it was enither specified "we won't sell all your email adress to spammer", neither " We won't post a lsit of the web page you visited on a special page", "we won't display the content of personnal letter" , "we won't mock you in any fashion", "we won#ät ask you for your first born" etc... Your argument is moot. If activity is to be logged it should be specified. Not the other way around.
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I guess even if it will work out, customers might get oh, say, $10. With rest being a fee for the lawyer(s)
We could endlessly repeat well-worn ideas yet never think about them, but let's try:
People complain that class action contingency attorneys pull a scam on their targets (e.g. Comcast) and their clients (e.g. Comcasts customers) and take all the $. Think about it; contingency lawyers (lawyers that collect large sums if they win, rather than smaller sums win or lose) and class action (grouping large numbers of small complaints into one big one: e.g. $100 damages * 1 million people = $100 million lawsuit) are the only way the less-than-rich get access to our court system.
o Contingency lawyers let everyone, not just the rich, use our court system. Our court system was too expensive for anyone but the rich. You must have a lawyer (technically you can represent yourself, just like my grandmother is technically allowed to hack the Linux kernel), and lawyers are expensive. If you couldn't afford one, no justice for you -- very democratic. Now, contingency lawyers take your case based on the hope you'll win and be able to pay them. Think about it -- would you work hundreds (or more) hours, hire experts and make every other investment at your own expense, and risk that if you lose (the other side has attorneys too) that you get $0.00? All that time, effort and money completely sunk? No way to buy dinner? Pay the mortgage? Put the kids through college? Even if you do win, you work now and get paid next year. Now you understand why contingency lawyers demand a larger percentage when they win.
o What other check, besides Class Action, is there on corporations screwing the millions of individuals who buy their products, work for them, share communities with them and invest hard-earned money in them? There aren't enough gov't regulators -- they couldn't even stop the multi-billion dollar Savings and Loan or Enron or other huge scandals -- can they protect the $10,000 of pension money Jane Elderly invested in Creative Financial Reporting Inc.? The citizens of a polluted neighborhood whose health is at risk? Or simply Ed Jones who wasted on their lies about their useless product? What deters some executive from twisting the financial statements, or ignoring the pollution or lying to consumers, simply to protect his job? What motivates the Board of Directors to question instead of rubber stamping their buddy the CEO who gave them their cushy jobs? It's not fear of the a few regulators; it's fear of massive lawsuits on behalf of every one of those people they might screw.
Sure, there are some bad lawyers who fleece the system, but so do some companies, doctors, politicians, bankers, police, programmers, etc. etc. Like everyone else, there are good lawyers and bad ones, and they all have their good and bad days. Plus, lawyers can't fleece anyone unless a jury and/or judge helps.
Funny that it's the part of our court system that serves the politically weak, not the part that serves the RIAA, the Fortune 500 corporations, etc., that gets all the mainstream criticism.
The usual conclusion to a class-action lawsuit like this is that it is settled, with the lawyers receiving a multi-million dollar fee and the individual members of the class receiving something like a coupon worth 10% off list price on the next purchase, i.e., diddly squat.
This being slashdot, I guess it's only natural that you didn't read the article before rushing to post your opinion.
According to the statute, 47 USC 551(b), cable operators are prohibited from collecting "personally identifiable information concerning any subscriber without the prior written or electronic consent of the subscriber concerned."
By the time the lawyers get their "cut", the comcast customers will end up getting a BILL for the settlement, and the lawyers will end up with the customary 100.01%
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I'm just going to assume that the tracking comes from the possiblity of the merge with AT&T. The freep had a really good article yesterday about Comcast not being too happy with the bandwidth consupmtion from users.
"Comcast points out that it is not cheap to provide high-speed service to a million customers, as it does now. At its network operations center in Cherry Hill, N.J., workers electronically monitor more than 50,000 pieces of equipment throughout the company's broadband network."
It wouldn't be surprising if they were tracking "equipment" (users more like it) to see who the bandwidth "hogs" are.
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But even ignoring the fact that this case is about a law that applies specifically to cable operators about collecting information without permission.. let's look at what you are saying.
It's the telephone company's network as well.. does that mean they can listen and record all your telephone calls?
What's the point of a legal system where the lawyers get all the money? THe system itself is making the money, and those doing who actually have the complaint get squat. Why should they bother suing then?
Court cases where lawyers get all hte money are rediculous.
The point, for Comcast customers, is not the money. It's only $100; how much compensation do they deserve? It's the privacy and Comcast's behavior. If Comcast loses, neither they nor other ISPs will take a similar risk again. Isn't privacy valuable?
The lawyers take a big financial risk. For risking tens of thousands of their own money (are you paying their secretaries, office rent, research, etc.) and spending so much of their life on the case, should they get only the good feeling of having improved privacy for Americans (if they win)?
The Comcast customers get $xx buck each and privacy. The attorneys who put in their time and money, not knowing if they'd get it back, they get the cash.
The social side of it is that no one wants to be watched by Big Brother or marketers or whatever. And it's against the law for Comcast to do it. It seems that most Slashdotters are well aware of and justifiably sensitive to these issues.
Then there's the technical side, and I'm kind of surprised that so few voices here speak up about it. When you have a network with a lot of users, it is very natural and intelligent to want to optimize it and use it at maximum efficiency. Caching proxies are a great tool at your disposal. It would almost be stupid if you didn't use them. (Yes, I'm a Squid lover. IMHO, almost every ISP, net-connected business, school, etc should have one.)
But running a web proxy comes with a responsibility. Someone might abuse it, and if the admin receives a complaint about something that came from his box, he needs to be able to look in a log and see who really deserves to receive that complaint, lest he be left holding the hot potato. You can't be a common carrier and not be held responsible for what goes through your network, unless your finger is always ready to point at who is responsible.
It looks like the social issues are the squeaky wheel, so they're going to be addressed. Just remember that this comes with a performance cost.
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I used to be a BT Openworld subscriber here in the UK. They also had a "transparent proxy" running. I freely sent all my data in cleartext until one day their connection to the US went down, and every time I tried to access any sites in the US, it spat back a proxy error at me. So I setup my own squid server in Ireland and routed all my traffic securely through there.
I phoned up the support line and got some slimy "technician" who claimed nothing was wrong. I told him his proxy server was spitting back errors at me, to which he replied he didn't think they had any proxy servers and were my proxy settings ok.
So he put me onto his "manager" who told me I wasn't supposed to know about the proxy and he'd look into it. That was the last I heard of it, 10 minutes later they'd fixed it.
... when you are a subscriber of a Cable ISP. Get over it. Whether or not the TOS states explicitly that information is being gathered, there is no implied privacy when using a data network. A recent case has upheld this. (I'm sorry, but the exact case escapes me ... however, it appeared on these very pages.)
That being said, there are NO Federal laws governing data passing over a cable TV connection. The FCC (and most state) regulations govern only the television signals that pass over the cable. The cable company is granted, in most cases, a exclusive contract to provide this service to a community. The contracts were mostly written prior to the internet's popularity, and hence have no conditions or obligations in them pertaining to data.
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