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Movie Review: Gigantic

"Its like being the world's tallest midget" is how Flansburgh describes They Might Be Giants fame at one point during the bands documentary, Gigantic. I was lucky enough to score tickets to the opening screening here in Seattle of the movie and was delighted with what I received for the price of admission. Of course having one of the John's, Flansburgh that is, plus the director AJ Schnack show up to the screening only added to the value. I am a fan of They Might Be Giants. The fact that I will have seen 26 films by the time that the Seattle Internal Film Festival is over also means that I am a fan of film too. Despite being a fan of film, this documentary could have been two hours worth of the TMBG's videos, or even two hours worth of staring at a black screen, and as long as they played some music I would have loved it.

The documentary is a solid mix of band history and irrelevant pieces (would you expect anything different?). While I can not say that I got a good history on how the two Jon's actually started playing together from the documentary, I did learn a lot about their early successes and the director did a wonderful job of putting together scenes from different periods to give the audience an idea about how the band's early years were. The documentary does reveal how "Dial A Song" got started after a biking messenger accident left Linnell unable to play. We even get to see some photos, complete with price tag, of the actual machine. Flansburgh talks for a bit about how personal "Dial A Song" is and the entire experience of getting to be one with the machine.

The documentary was shot in video and in places comes out a little grainy. Some of the concert scenes definitely show off some of the short comings of the medium (this is not Lucus style digital filming). Despite this the film had a fully packed house during its opening in Seattle and the theater had to turn away 150 people at the door.

The director mentioned that their last showing of the film at SXSW had similar sized crowds. Hopefully this will mean that some distributor will pick up the film so the more people will get a chance to see it. If you are lucky enough to live in one of the cities that it will be playing in, and you love the band's music I can easily recommend going to see it.

124 comments

  1. Does it count as first post... by EvilFrog · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ...if all of the previous posts are trolling?

    Anyway, does anyone know how this is being distributed? I'm a big TMBG fan, but I don't know how I'll ever actually get to see this movie...

    1. Re:Does it count as first post... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      does anyone know how this is being distributed?

      Digitally. Or Analogogogy. Or Something. I think.

  2. But the important question is... by Corvaith · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ...is this film eventually going to be made available on video or something for those of us living in the back of beyond?

    Does anyone know?

    I can't exactly take off work and drive to one of the remote places where it's showing, but I'd love to see it anyway.

    1. Re:But the important question is... by ainsoph · · Score: 4, Informative


      I work for Seattle International Film Festival and from what I know, films such as Gigantic will do the festival circut in attempts to pick up distribution. I was speaking with the director of Who The Hell is Bobby Roos last night, and he was telling me about how rough it is to get your film picked up, even getting a deal for video.

      So depending opon the response at the festivals, and the eyes that see the film, it may or may not get picked up.

    2. Re:But the important question is... by Jeremi · · Score: 2
      So depending opon the response at the festivals, and the eyes that see the film, it may or may not get picked up.


      Hm, I would pay cash money for a DVD or even a Divx or mpg download of this film... TMBG are pretty innovative with the eMusic thing and all; perhaps they might distribute it on line?

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      I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
    3. Re:But the important question is... by ainsoph · · Score: 2


      TMBG are pretty innovative with the eMusic thing and all; perhaps they might distribute it on line?


      Thats very true, and a lot of the filmakers I have talked to see that as a viable option in a world of tough distribution.

  3. Bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "...even two hours worth of staring at a black screen, and as long as they played some music I would have loved it."

    Doesn't this make your review pretty worthless?

    1. Re:Bias by gimpboy · · Score: 1

      nope it would make it biased. for people with a similar bias, this review would be fairly useful.

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      -- john
    2. Re:Bias by newerbob · · Score: 1
      This was NO TROLL, it was the most insightfull post I've seen on /. in YEARS.

      What ever happened to meta-moderation?

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  4. you suck! by lo_fye · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    all you people who post about linux instead of the topic are just silly billies. I love the johns. During the Sunshine Tour I got to see them in Michigan and happened to find out that afterwards they'd be doing an intimate show at the local Tower Records... price of admission: canned food for the needy. Off we went to the supermarket :) I got to sit on the floor of tower records, front row... and watch the Johns & band play. It was awesome. My friend Ben adn I even reached out pre-show and touched the coveted accordion. Whooooa. Been lovin their stuff for years now. John Henry made me scared that they may turn mainstream... but that fear passed as their lyrics stayed insane. Phew! Here's to all the johns. Checkout this website too... they did the soundtrack for it: www.ChoppingBlock.com Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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  5. Some just won't get it, even if they try... by EvilFrog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It bothers me when people refer to people as 'terrible musicians'. Music, like many art forms is subjective. I never got the appeal of Picasso, but I don't think he's a 'terrible painter'.

    The thing about TMBG is you have to have very eclectic taste in music to appreciate them. Their style is all over the place, and you can't just hear one or two songs and know what they sound like. If you were to play 'Boss of Me', 'Particle Man', and 'A Self Called Nowhere' next to each other, a newcomer would be hard pressed to believe it's the same band.

    The depth of their songs comes from figuring out what exactly they're about. Their songs are rarely simply nonsense, they just don't ever directly tell you what they're supposed to mean.

    'Birdhouse In Your Soul' for example. Here's a song that seems to make very little sense at all. The trick is that if you pay attention, it's a song written from the perspective of a nightlight shaped like a canary.

    Someone once told me song lyrics are like poetry with a learning disability. TMBG lyrics are like poetry with a severe case of insomnia that can't stop giggling...

    1. Re:Some just won't get it, even if they try... by wadetemp · · Score: 2

      'Birdhouse In Your Soul' for example. Here's a song that seems to make very little sense at all. The trick is that if you pay attention, it's a song written from the perspective of a nightlight shaped like a canary.

      Not that a song written from the perspective of a nightlight shaped like a canary makes sense either. :) I've listened to plenty of other music with non-sensical lyrics, and I usually prefer just to listen to them for what they are (some interesting beats can be created using words and such, and sometimes the music is more important than the words anyway.) But the TMBG songs I've heard don't seem to have any of that... the music may be eclectic, but is not particularly innovative in any way... the lyrical gimmickry is the only thing they have going. And once you figure out what nonsensical thing the song is supposed to be about, what's left?

      And Chad, stay the hell away from my computer.

    2. Re:Some just won't get it, even if they try... by TomHandy · · Score: 1

      Aside from their lyrics, I think they are excellent rock musicians, and have written some absolutely beautiful music in their career, going all the way back to early songs like Ana Ng and They'll Need A Crane to more recent music such as Certain People I Could Name and Mink Car.

    3. Re:Some just won't get it, even if they try... by TheTomcat · · Score: 2

      It bothers me when people refer to people as 'terrible musicians'.

      The quality of art (songwriting (composition, lyrics, etc), in this case) is measured subjectively. There's no correct way to do it, other than to follow certain style normes.

      The quality of a skill (playing a guitar, singing, etc, in this case) is measured objectively. There's a proper way to play a certain song. There's a certain frequency at which notes should be sung.

      Musicians are skilled "workers". Composers are the "art crowd". They just happen to be the same people in this case.

      S

  6. Or a prosthetic forehead. . . by enalzi · · Score: 1

    Damn, I want that movie more than a rock to tie a piece of string around.

  7. Re:oh no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    shit

  8. Not Offtopic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honest to god truth... when I got the tickets I had no idea what the movie would be about. I got my hopes up and was let down - BIG TIME.

  9. Why? by Peter+La+Casse · · Score: 1

    Of course having one of the John's, Flansburgh that is, plus the director AJ Schnack show up to the screening only added to the value.Why?

  10. Re:YES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WHERE is my PROVOLONE

    HERE!.

    I'm curiously aroused by the picture ... anyone know why?

  11. Bah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    *Everybody* wants a rock to tie a piece of string around.

  12. You've missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They aren't about being funny. They are about making the music they want to make. They cover many styles of music across their 9 albums. Their songs sometimes describe very odd people or settingsm but they usually tell a story too. In fact, "I've Got a Match", for example, is a song about a guy fighting with his girlfriend and finally leaving her. He's calling insensitive and hurtful, and tell her "I've got a match - Your embrace and my collapse". They tend to use somewhat silly lyrics, but they get the point across.

    (BTW, the original phrase is "I've got a match - your face and my as*")

    1. Re:You've missed the point by TomHandy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure they're about being funny too. They do serious songs, but they have well-honed senses of humor and write excellent humorous music too. I don't think this is anything to be ashamed of. It just is another example of their versatility compared to some bands which can't write anything but generic love songs or meaningless music.

    2. Re:You've missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hi, I'm the AC you're replying to. I agree, they do try to be funny too...but, I'm a bit disheartened by the number of people who simply lump them into the same category as pure comedy acts, like Wierd Al or Corky And The Juice Pigs. These people are missing out on great music, and, to an extent, dsicrediting John and John as serious musicians. TMBG is a band, of singularly unique quality, driven by two musicians who do their /own/ thing before anyeone else's. That is why they have gone on so long, despite two label changes, they just make their music for the sake of making their music. To cast them off as a comedy act is to ignore their more important qualities.

  13. this is funny as hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I actually USE Linux.

    1. Re:this is funny as hell by purpledinoz · · Score: 1

      Good for you. Now lets all clap our hands and dance around the campfire.

  14. 6 Good comments out of 63? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm.. wow.. all I see is trolls..

    1. Re:6 Good comments out of 63? by gimpboy · · Score: 2

      it's pretty amazing isn't it. it's a real shame they will only sell posters for the movie on the website. i would love to get a video cd.

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      -- john
    2. Re:6 Good comments out of 63? by direktor · · Score: 2, Informative

      There will be a DVD available eventually.

  15. I don't get it by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

    We can't watch this movie? It's only played twice? Then why the heck is it being reviewed??? So some elitist Ebert wannabe can brag about how cool he is, that he got in when others were turned away? What's the point of this review? Might as well review a 9.5mm silent movie from the 20s.

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    1. Re:I don't get it by ziggles · · Score: 1

      ..

      People complain when they review mainstream movies that everybody has heard of. Now they're trying to share something almost nobody has heard of, and you're still complaining?

      Personally I'd rather have reviews of these movies that I've never heard of and maybe don't have a chance to see right away because it won't be playing in every theater in the world. What's the point of reviewing a movie that's already been reviewed a thousand times?

    2. Re:I don't get it by Lars+T. · · Score: 2
      I don't get it

      Yeah, that's obvious. You haven't actually read the (very short) review, hunh? BTW, I have the sig for some time now, it's not there because of you in particular.

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    3. Re:I don't get it by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      I have .sig viewing turned off in user preferences. I hate noise in my forums.

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    4. Re:I don't get it by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2
      I don't know quite how to state this to you, but:

      I didn't complain about mainstream movies. You must have mistaken me for the ENTIRE SLASHDOT POPULATION.

      You won't have a chance to see it right away...you won't have a chance to see it AT ALL. It's a supercool little indie film, and it only plays at supercool little film festival theaters, the likes of which you and I will not be invited to.

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    5. Re:I don't get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yet you have a .sig. Interesting.

    6. Re:I don't get it by scotch · · Score: 2
      You don't have to be "invited" to go to an independent film, an independent theater, or even a film festival. Invitation is also not required to rent independent films from your local video rental store, or even the franchised video rental outlets. You also don't need an invitation to watch independent films on a variety of cable television stations including IFC and Bravo

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    7. Re:I don't get it by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      You do, however, need an invitation to get into the best flicks at the indie festivals, such as the one being reviewed here.

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    8. Re:I don't get it by ainsoph · · Score: 2

      Thats a whole lotta crap bro. I am at SIFF right now, and you know, I could sell you a ticket if one was available. In fact, we sold tickets to the public for every single one of the films shown at the festival save for the press screenings, which are of course, for the press.

      I suggest you stop feeling sorry for yourself and quell your paranoid delusions that the world is out to get you and go see some films instead of complaining about how you are not invited. You are invited.

    9. Re:I don't get it by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I suppose they just do a first-come first-serve at the best movies? I've been to the SXSW festival and you clear the way when the elites come through.

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    10. Re:I don't get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No you don't. I went, and I'm a nobody. The only thing to remember with film festivals is that if you want to get tickets to the movies everyone wants to go to, you should buy them three or four weeks early.

      -Ben Allen,
      a) a total nobody.
      b) the guy who got John Flansburgh to sign his laptop computer. Woohoo!

    11. Re:I don't get it by ainsoph · · Score: 3, Interesting


      Actually, there is an allotment of tickets for passholders and the rest are up for grabs. As long as you have your shit together and buy your tickets around the time when they go on sale, and not try to get them an hour before the show, you can get in.

      The most popular shows at the SIFF festival, the tickets have overwhelmingly gone to the general public. This may be unique, but so is the Seattle festival.

      I really suggest dropping the 'elitist' fear you seem to have and get out and see some movies, if that is what you are interested in. Its really not too hard to be invloved in independent film, and aside from a few martini slinging weirdos (who you get to laugh at at the parties) most people are very cool, and probably not too different from yourself.

      Although, there is a certain breed spotted at the fesitval, that is not this elite type you are talking about, but a weirdo obsessed fat crowd, not unlike those you see at star trek and comic book conventions.

  16. Will the movie be available by phone? by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 4, Informative

    TMBG used to have an inovative service called "dial-a-song". You call a phone number which is answered by a restored vintage answering machine and listen to an unreleased song. A computer hooked up to the answering machine changes the song to another unreleased song once an hour.

    The album liner notes always said something like "Remember, the call is free if you call from work".

    I just noticed that they now have a dial-a-song webpage, which is also free when you connect from work!

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    "Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
    1. Re:Will the movie be available by phone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only did TMBG use to have a service called "dial-a-song," they still do. The number is 718-387-6962, which is free from appropriate parts of New York City, or, as they say, if you call from work. Try it sometime!

  17. What's the point of the website? by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 2

    It does'nt say where the movie will play or when.

    It does'nt provide a link or instructions on how to write to encourage my local theatre to play it.

    As a fan, if they showed it anywhere near here, I'd go see it.

    Unless I missed something (which I'll admit is possible.. the site is slow due to /.), why would somebody make a website for a movie that I have no chance of seeing?

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    1. Re:What's the point of the website? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's coming to DVD and VHS this fall

    2. Re:What's the point of the website? by ainsoph · · Score: 2

      Ummm... right on the front page it lists the festivals all across the country where it is playing.

  18. Re:Please credit your sources by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Egg man, egg man, you still haven't brought me my eggs, egg man!

  19. The funny thing is... by EvilFrog · · Score: 1

    ...that's actually one of the most on-topic posts so far...

    (For those not familiar with TMBG, I'm not being sarcastic.)

  20. Okay... by EvilFrog · · Score: 1

    Seeing as my original post got modded down as off-topic, despite having a legitimate question (my fault I know, I should have just asked the question and forgotten about the trolling joke), I'll ask it again:

    Where can I see this film? Is it going to be sold on DVD? Is it going to be at every major film festival in the country? Has it been available on Gnutella since last January?

    The point of a review is to let people know whether or not they would want to watch it. It would be handy to know exactly how we can watch it.

    1. Re:Okay... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It will be playing at many film festivals, and will be released on DVD. There will be theatrical showings in between if Bonfire Films can arrange them.

    2. Re:Okay... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The director hopes to pick up some distribution of the film in the fall, till then it will just be doing festival shows. There is hope/plan for a DVD release with a lot of bonus material that the TMBG website says should be out by the end of the year, but AJ pointed out that they are great about sticking to schedules, so expect the DVD sometime in 2003 most likely. info on the film at giganticfilm.com. list of upcoming show times and locations at theymightbegiants.com

  21. Re:ITS OFFICIAL!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    egg man, where are my fucking eggs already, damnit!!!

  22. Token Katz troll by RiotXIX · · Score: 2, Funny

    Forget about the movie...This reviewer's AMAZING!! I mean, he's 100000000^23 times better than Katz!! I hope we have a replacement on our hands.

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  23. Hello Music Club Kills TMBG by arfy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I used to really like TMBG, and I still do but just not as much in a daily-quoting, obsessive kind of way.

    John F. had a really great idea back in the 90's to send out ten CD EP's a year (by new artists and old) for $42, and he even threw in a cool extra now and then. BUT: like all mail-order, problems happen, only some of which I can blame on him and the lady who ran the operation with him. One year I didn't get the extra goodie, which was a CD by TMBG, and I let her know that it hadn't arrived. I don't know if she thought I was trying to scam an extra copy out of them or something but they wouldn't send a replacement. I signed up for the next year anyway, but at the end of that year when I tried to re-up no luck even though I left them messages several times. Hello CD-of-the-Month still existed for another few years but I guess they didn't want to sell any more to me -- and by association, I became somewhat disillusioned with TMBG's output.
    Still wish I had the rest of the Hello CDs, though.

    1. Re:Hello Music Club Kills TMBG by TomHandy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hello Music Club was really a Flans project, not a TMBG project. I don't see any reason to become disillusioned with TMBG because of a side project of one if its members then I would of any band if one of its members did some side project. Both Flans and Linnell have done numerous side project (Flans also did Monopuff, Linnell has done his State Songs album), which probably keeps them sane and makes it so they aren't constantly doing TMBG stuff 24/7/365, which is probably why the band is still around and as creatively fresh as ever. So for that, I will allow for any weird problems with projects like Hello just because it helps keep them around.

    2. Re:Hello Music Club Kills TMBG by arfy · · Score: 1

      I can't really disagree with anything you've said, but still:

      The word I used was disillusioned. I sent them money, I didn't get all the product contracted for, and whoever answered the phone (Margaret?) didn't care too much about it. I was under the illusion that they cared about their fans; I no longer have that illusion, hence dis-illusioned.

      I don't dislike them. I'll still be sad when they're gone and I'm glad when they release a new album. I just don't rush out to buy it on the day of release anymore; I wait for a used copy to show up at the the local reseller.

  24. mirror by gimpboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    hey.
    i've got a mirror going:
    mirror

    the movies are here:
    movies
    have fun.

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    -- john
    1. Re:mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Quicktime? Bleh, pass.

      P.S. those are trailers, not the movie.

    2. Re:mirror by gimpboy · · Score: 1

      yes they are trailers. sorry to suggest otherwise. i figured they (the trailers) would be what is slowing down the site, so i provided a quick link to those.

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      -- john
  25. Spare me the advertisements/lame excuse for review by donky · · Score: 1

    I don't read this site to read quick advertisements for .

  26. When He Was Younger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Huh. When Schnack was the president of the student body at the University of Missouri-Columbia, I thought for sure he'd end up being just another corporate music whore. Probably had something to do with the the painstakingly written lyrics to REM's "The End of the World As We Know It" on his office wall, which was, even then, an approved rebellion song. Guess I was wrong. Or is TMBG also one of those bands clearly approved for acceptance by those who think they're indie and non-mainstream but aren't? Posting anonymously to prevent AJ from spilling *my* student history.

  27. Invitation enclosed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.seattlefilm.com/

  28. Geez, Slashdot editors, just take the weekend off. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's next, a review of the Republican National Convention? Article just not relevant...Article JUST NOT RELEVANT!

  29. The song "New York City" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TMBG does a fair number of covers (sometimes without people realizing they are covers)... in fact Flansberg once introduced 'Why does the sun shine' with, "Here is another song we didn't write; people seem to like that"... anyways, point being, the song 'New York City' which is featured in both the trailers was originally written and performed by a Vancouver all female trio called Cub, and, as much as I love TMBG to death, Cub's version is better. ;)

    P.S. Cub toured a bit with TMBG on the Factory Showroom tour... and Cub had (at the time) 2 members named Lisa... so I imagine the introductions went something like, "John this is Lisa. Lisa, John. John this is Lisa. Lisa, John. John this is Lisa. Lisa, John. John this is Lisa. Lisa, John." .... yeah.

  30. Saw the world premiere at SXSW by jefflinwood · · Score: 3, Informative
    I'm not much of a TMBG fan, but I bought a South by Southwest film pass for fifty bucks, and I felt I had to see at least 8 movies to make it worthwhile :) Anyway, both of TMBG were going to be at the Premiere, and they hadn't seen the movie yet. Along with the director and a representative from the distributor.

    It was actually pretty cool. Those guys are total geeks, in every sense of the word. The only catch with the movie is the ending scene, those of you who have seen it know what I'm talking about. The director should have cut it.

    Some guy commented about Austin's SXSW being "elitist". I'm not sure what he's talking about, there were a few empty seats for the premiere! Anybody could have gone for 8 bucks.

    If you're a big fan, go see the movie!

  31. I haven't listened to TMBG in ages. by ChadM · · Score: 1

    "The Statue Got Me High", oh wait I did that to myself =\

  32. 3 most contrasting songs by Shook · · Score: 1

    Hmm... Here's a good game! Name (in your opinion) the three songs that contrast most strongly.

    My vote goes to:

    Stomp Box
    Lie Still, Little Bottle
    We Want a Rock

  33. My Flood of questions... by elocutio · · Score: 1

    If Triangle Man and Your Racist Friend had a fight, would Triangle win?

    Or, can you build a little Birdhouse In Your Soul with Sapphire Bullets of Pure Love?

    And shouldn't this film be about a Road Movie To Berlin?

    I feel like I've learned a lot from TMBG: Pet Rocks are cool, accordian music can be really groovy, and you can be a total nerd and still be a rockin' musician.

    On a serious note, does anyone know what the backmasking is in the first :10 of Hearing Aid?

  34. did I read that right? by Rhinobird · · Score: 2

    a value added movie? cripes, where on this planet do I escape marketers?

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  35. If it's difficult to get distributed... by Kirkoff · · Score: 2

    They could always sleep their way to the top, but I'll bet their alarm clocks always wake them right up...

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  36. Offtopic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You really should give credit to Diablo, as your .sig is a quote directly from him. Just a thought. :)