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What's Happening with Open Source HA Software?

Posted by Cliff on from the combating-downtime-with-clustering dept.

Monkius asks: "A year ago, there seemed to be two promising Linux HA frameworks--along with lots and lots of experimental things: SGI's FailSafe, and Kimberlite from Mission Critical Linux. The FailSafe software website now seems very out of date, although the mailing list remains active, and there seems to be forward momentum. On the other hand, Redhat seems to have forked the development of Kimberlite, calling the fork Redhat Cluster Manager. They don't seem to be making development source available, at least to the public. Are these two projects still relevant? What's the current status of Open Source HA?"

22 comments

  1. Close to first! by SumDeusExMachina · · Score: -1
    Eat it, AC shitbags!

    This post for CLIT! ACs have no place in the first post!

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  2. had a fp, banned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    slashdot doesn't like advertising

  3. l33t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The spotty teenaged hackerz are really l33t enough to buy HA hardware.
    That's why linux runs best on 386s - that's all they can afford.
    There is limited support for pentiums because some youths' daddies buy them computers if they get 'good' ( > D) grades at school.

  4. HA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HAHAHAHAHA!

    In the future, when using uncommon acronyms, PLEASE FUCKING EXPLAIN IT AT LEAST ONCE. Thanks. Idiots.

    1. Re:HA! by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      It would appear from sites linked to from other posts means High Availabilty

    2. Re:HA! by brunson · · Score: 1

      It's still standard journalistic practice to define any acronym the first time it's used in an article.

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    3. Re:HA! by gnugnugnu · · Score: 0, Troll

      thank you for the explanation

      it was not too difficult to work out that HA stood for High Availability in the context of clusters with a little help from Google but really should the reader have to figure it out? it is really dissapointing that Cliff did not expand the acronym or add any relevant links.
      If it is news, "News for Nerds" then why dont they at least try and do some journalism.

      Karma be damned, not using AC this time.

    4. Re:HA! by checkyoulater · · Score: 1

      It's still standard journalistic practice to define any acronym the first time it's used in an article.

      And you expect such rules to be followed on /.?

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  5. You aren't looking hard enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here is a vrrp implementation for FreeBSD, and the same source has been ported to OpenBSD. In addition to those two projects, there is the Linux HA project which has links to other projects. Look harder, open source projects aren't always glamorous and therefor aren't always advertised.

  6. well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i smell vaporware.......

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  8. someone realized by mighty+jebus · · Score: -1


    that linux boxes don't crash, so HA is pretty much a waste of time and money.

    home of the 420 day uptime,

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  9. open source is dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who knew BSD was just the beginning?

  10. They aren't around anymore by Clue4All · · Score: -1, Troll

    Mission Critical Linux went out of business. It's truly a shame, they were a town over from me. Apparently you can't make money giving away software for free.

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    1. Re:They aren't around anymore by ivan256 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hey! We're not out of business! We're still here, and we still make cluster software. Kimberlite 2.0 has been in CVS for quite some time. Try it out!

    2. Re:They aren't around anymore by einhverfr · · Score: 2

      hehe. It is interesting how the reports of your demise have been exadurated...

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  11. bum buumm baaaahh !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    bum buumm baaaahh !!

  12. Heartbeat by jtharpla · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm working with heartbeat from the Linux-HA project and it is very much alive and well, as is the linux-ha mailing list.

  13. same question, with links by morcheeba · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yikes! Links make it a lot easier for people to figure out what's going on!

    "A year ago, there seemed to be two promising Linux HA [high availability] frameworks--along with lots and lots of experimental things: SGI's FailSafe, and Kimberlite from Mission Critical Linux. The FailSafe software website now seems very out of date, although the mailing list remains active, and there seems to be forward momentum. On the other hand, Redhat seems to have forked the development of Kimberlite, calling the fork Redhat Cluster Manager. They don't seem to be making development source available, at least to the public. Are these two projects still relevant? What's the current status of Open Source HA?"

    Try also linux-ha.org and open cluster

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    1. Re:same question, with links by brianmstevens · · Score: 1

      Ouch, fork that hurts. Unfortunately MCL "met industry pressures" and is now roughly the size of a small basketball team rather than the 100+ we once were. Most of those who launched and developed kimberlite are now at Red Hat, hence its inclusion *finally* into Red Hat's products. We consider this a rejuvenation rather than a fork since at MCL we had bowed to proprietary pressures and our kimberlite enhancements languished. Kimberlite is a great HA core and we are excited at having the opportunity to continue its development. Lots of new features, all still GPL, all available on Red Hat's ftp.

  14. Kimberlite is still around. by ivan256 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't let the fork get you down, the kimberlite-dev list is still active, and kimberlite is still supported. Unlike some other companies, we don't make it difficult to find the code if you want to contribute, and you can peak into the CVS repository if you want to see what's going on. You'll need to look in CVS for the latest code, since we don't seem to have updated the packages or tarballs for quite some time. Check out the kimberlite website for mailing lists and such.

    Download it and try it out. Or better yet, call us and buy the commercial version. It's about the same price or cheaper then RedHat advanced server, and you're not stuck running RedHat.

  15. HAHAHAHA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HA ha ha ha HA.