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Linux Big Among Chinese Developers

krygny writes: "InfoWorld has an article about a survey of Chinese developers to be released today by Evans Data. Although Windows is dominant in China (as everywhere), the survey portends a shift toward Linux. Maybe they figure, if they can't pirate the stuff, it's not worth paying for. Contemplate on the heels of this /. article."

13 comments

  1. China? by TriCCer · · Score: 1

    I thought it was obvious that Chinese hackers used Linux, since it's more socialistic in nature... Hell, I've even seen documentaries about it! =)

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    1. Re:China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      I've seen a documentary about /. janitors forcing us to post at 0 insteed of -1, and quite frankly I couldn't figure out the logic behind that. I guess moderators retardness is irrational science.

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  2. economics of linux by DopeThrone · · Score: 2, Interesting

    the chinese seem to be more on the up and up about what they spend their money on, unless its some cheap pokemon thing, so naturally open source would be the better idea, us americans just blow our money on the latest and greatest revised windows that usually sucks anyways

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  3. But They Can, In Effect, Pirate GPL-ed Software by Bravo_Two_Zero · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While I'd be inclined to agree that Microsoft products are not necessary worth the cost ("if they can't pirate the software...), what makes anyone think for a moment that the same people would adhere to the GPL?

    The Chinese marketplace is rife with copyright infringements, ranging from the innocuous to the obscene. I'd think that statement applies to many, many marketplaces, to be fair. But is it really advantageous for GPL-ed software to be treated the same way?

    I'm not contending that Chinese coders will not comply with the GPL. After all, in comparison to Microsoft, it's virtually free to comply with the GPL. But, it doesn't benefit GPL-ish licenses if the code is modified or improved but not re-released.

    I am suggesting that, someone who would, on a widescale basis, subvert commercial software licensing won't necessarily treat GPL software in the proper manner just because there is no monetary license cost associated.

    It's great for China to go open-source, but it just doesn't seem likely for a closed-door society (which is, admittedly and thankfully, changing bit by bit) to contribute happily to the open source ideal.

    Heck, the GPL is in many ways an ideal of a free market economy. Good projects flourish. Not as good projects don't. If a market is a conversation, GPL-ed software is a prime example. It's better than the BSD-style licenses because participants have to continue the conversation. It's not a matter of law, but of polite agreement.

    I guess I just don't think it's much cause for celebration when a non-free market entity weighs in on a free market discussion. I could be wrong, and I certainly hope I am. I hope legions of Chinese coders contribute heavily to quality, internationalized software.

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    1. Re:But They Can, In Effect, Pirate GPL-ed Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do some research before you post! Here's a list of the major Chinese Linux distributions who follows GPL and releases all source code on their website.

      Redflag Linux
      TurboLinux
      Bluepoint
      Xteam Linux
      Cosix Linux

      It is just that we at the US never really pay much attention to what's REALLY happening in China anyway. Part of it is due to our difficulties with any Asian languages, and part of it is just us being misled by most media here.

      BTW, congratulations to Turbolinux for winning the biggest Linux deal in China, estimated to be worth over 2Billion yuen (approx. $250 million). They will be developing and deploying IC card enabled smart gas pump management stations, which provides internet access at the gas pumps, at over 25000 gas stations operated by China Petroleum across the country. Here's the link
      http://www.linuxaid.com.cn/infos/1/2/1219190 39.sht ml

      IMHO, that's what's really worth celebrating!

    2. Re:But They Can, In Effect, Pirate GPL-ed Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Do some research before you post! Here's a list of the major Chinese Linux distributions who follows GPL and releases all source code on their website.
      Redflag Linux
      TurboLinux
      Bluepoint
      XteamLinux
      Cosix Linux

      Oh yippee! Unfortunately none of those distributions have contributed anything. They compile other people's code. For some reason that doesn't seem terribly impressive.

    3. Re:But They Can, In Effect, Pirate GPL-ed Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BTW, congratulations to Turbolinux for winning the biggest Linux deal in China, ... ... IMHO, that's what's really worth celebrating!

      Damn right! I'll be partying all through the night on this news.

  4. No surprise here by gurensan · · Score: 1

    They can get it, legally, without paying 3 months' salary. That's why it's being adopted in 3rd worlds countries all over the globe. People like to obey the laws, but if they can't, they won't. Linux gives them a way to do what they need to without 'stealing' anything.

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  5. Linux and open source by npgmr · · Score: 1

    Perhaps I can tell the fact that ppl in developing countries might not even know how to use a computer. But programming enthusiast will like to see Linux grow.

    From programming point of view, it provides massive code for us to learn. From financial point of view, it's cheap.

    But from end user point of view, most of them only want something to be done quickly, and easily. They don't mind rebooting their pc - at least they can show it to those complete newbies they know something.

    Anyhow, I like to free code and I can learn a lot from them. I also like the idea of helping each other. This could be a new economic modal, rather than the current business driven modal.

  6. It's all Ballmer's fault! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ballmer: -Linux is communist!
    Chinese: - Hmmm, communist? Great!
    Ballmer: - No! No! I was kidding! It's not communist... it's capitalist! I assure you!

  7. how could you tell from a users perspective? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just using Linux.. oh yeah, I have to get clearance from the central authority to open my calendar.

    Look, the development process might be vaguely socialistic, but the software is hardly socialistic because that doesn't make any sense.

  8. verifying a rumor by Saeger · · Score: 2

    first post

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