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Bluetooth stack for FreeBSD
Dan writes "Maksim Yevmenkin announces that another "bluetooth" engineering release is available for download. This release features several major changes and includes support for H4 UART and H2 USB transport layers, Host Controller Interface (HCI), Link Layer Control and Adaptation Protocol (L2CAP), Bluetooth sockets layer and more. Maksim has subsequently provided followup patches for this release."
Bluetooth is great and all... if you happen to have a Bluetooth machine and Bluetooth peripherals. What I want to know is: when (if it doesn't already exist in CVS somewhere) can we see a fully functional IR stack? Part of the reason that I had to switch my corporate laptop away from FreeBSD is that I was not able to use the IR port on my phone while on the road.
(en tea)
Yes, let us indeed keep to the facts and the numbers, but let us not omit one of the more important numbers.
100,000 copies of a BSD-based OS were purchased, not downloaded but actually paid for on the 23rd of August this year.
That OS is Mac OS X, and it seems to be very much alive, don't you think?
You must be new here. Welcome.
Better than being GNU here.
But if you're GNU, someone wants you.
I just heard the sad news on talk radio. Troubled OS FreeBSD was found dead in it's garage office. Anonymous officials stated off record that the little daemon was bloated and covered in feces, it's body was surrounded by empty beer cans. There were no further details. Truly a big loss for all dilletante-dabbler troll hobbyists.
Erm, "*BSD" means "any_text + BSD"; it's a wildcard. So as lame as that troll is, your answer of "Mac OS X" countering it isn't true. Never mind eh?
On a similar note, Microsoft has included various bits of code from FreeBSD in NT. Does that make another 70 trillion BSD-based operating systems rolled out?
Get a grip. Mac OS X is cool, but it's so far from the BSDs that we know, you can't class them together.
[ed note; in the following text, former FreeBSD developer Mike Smith gives his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD]
When I stood for election to the FreeBSD core team nearly two years ago, many of you will recall that it was after a long series of debates during which I maintained that too much organisation, too many rules and too much formality would be a bad thing for the project.
Today, as I read the latest discussions on the future of the FreeBSD project, I see the same problem; a few new faces and many of the old going over the same tired arguments and suggesting variations on the same worthless schemes. Frankly I'm sick of it.
FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.
It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.
So I'm leaving core. I don't want to feel like I should be "doing something" about a project that has lost interest in having something done for it. I don't have the energy to fight what has clearly become a losing battle; I have a life to live and a job to keep, and I won't achieve any of the goals I personally consider worthwhile if I remain obligated to care for the project.
Discussion
I'm sure that I've offended some people already; I'm sure that by the time I'm done here, I'll have offended more. If you feel a need to play to the crowd in your replies rather than make a sincere effort to address the problems I'm discussing here, please do us the courtesy of playing your politics openly.
From a technical perspective, the project faces a set of challenges that significantly outstrips our ability to deliver. Some of the resources that we need to address these challenges are tied up in the fruitless metadiscussions that have raged since we made the mistake of electing officers. Others have left in disgust, or been driven out by the culture of abuse and distraction that has grown up since then. More may well remain available to recruitment, but while the project is busy infighting our chances for successful outreach are sorely diminished.
There's no simple solution to this. For the project to move forward, one or the other of the warring philosophies must win out; either the project returns to its laid-back roots and gets on with the work, or it transforms into a super-organised engineering project and executes a brilliant plan to deliver what, ultimately, we all know we want.
Whatever path is chosen, whatever balance is struck, the choosing and the striking are the important parts. The current indecision and endless conflict are incompatible with any sort of progress.
Trying to dissect the above is far beyond the scope of any parting shot, no matter how distended. All that I can really ask of you all is to let go of the minutiae for a moment and take a look at the big picture. What is the ultimate goal here? How can we get there with as little overhead as possible? How would you like to be treated by your fellow travellers?
Shouts
To the Slashdot "BSD is dying" crowd - big deal. Death is part of the cycle; take a look at your soft, pallid bodies and consider that right this very moment, parts of you are dying. See? It's not so bad.
To the bulk of the FreeBSD committerbase and the developer community at large - keep your eyes on the real goals. It's when you get distracted by the politickers that they sideline you. The tireless work that you perform keeping the system clean and building is what provides the platform for the obsessives and the prima donnas to have their moments in the sun. In the end, we need you all; in order to go forwards we must first avoid going backwards.
To the paranoid conspiracy theorists - yes, I work for Apple too. No, my resignation wasn't on Steve's direct orders, or in any way related to work I'm doing, may do, may not do, or indeed what was in the tea I had at lunchtime today. It's about real problems that the project faces, real problems that the project has brought upon itself. You can't escape them by inventing excuses about outside influence, the problem stems from within.
To the politically obsessed - give it a break, if you can. No, the project isn't a lemonade stand anymore, but it's not a world-spanning corporate juggernaut either and some of the more grandiose visions going around are in need of a solid dose of reality. Keep it simple, stupid.
To the grandstanders, the prima donnas, and anyone that thinks that they can hold the project to ransom for their own agenda - give it a break, if you can. When the current core were elected, we took a conscious stand against vigorous sanctions, and some of you have exploited that. A new core is going to have to decide whether to repeat this mistake or get tough. I hope they learn from our errors.
Future
I started work on FreeBSD because it was fun. If I'm going to continue, it has to be fun again. There are things I still feel obligated to do, and with any luck I'll find the time to meet those obligations.
However I don't feel an obligation to get involved in the political mess the project is in right now. I tried, I burnt out. I don't feel that my efforts were worthwhile. So I won't be standing for election, I won't be shouting from the sidelines, and I probably won't vote in the next round of ballots.
You could say I'm packing up my toys. I'm not going home just yet, but I'm not going to play unless you can work out how to make the project somewhere fun to be again.
= Mike
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Bluetooth is great and all... if you happen to have a Bluetooth machine and Bluetooth peripherals. What I want to know is: when (if it doesn't already exist in CVS somewhere) can we see a fully functional IR stack? Part of the reason that I had to switch my corporate laptop away from FreeBSD is that I was not able to use the IR port on my phone while on the road.
Am I teh l33t???
I have a bluetooth-enabled device (my cell phone), but neither of my PCs support it. Is there a USB Bluetooth device I can buy? Does anyone know of one that works with FreeBSD (or failing that, Linux)?