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Cold Laser Advanced As Carpal Tunnel Treatment

Rio writes "A local6.com article tells us about how the constant pounding away at the keyboard is a literal pain for millions of people. According to an official, the cold laser technique is a medical device that will soon be used by more doctors to treat carpal tunnel syndrome. The procedure involves the use of a cold laser beam that pierces the skin and stimulates white blood cells to come to the inflamed area to reduce pain and swelling."

18 comments

  1. This was good to see by SLot · · Score: 2

    "We just started trying it on rheumatoid arthritis and, so far, the results we've had as far as pain ... it's helped," Smith said. "

    As I've recently noticed the beginnings of arthritis, I'm hoping this works. Now I have no excuse to stop staying up late playing games! :)

  2. seeing red syndrome by Lepruhkawn · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would like to use a laser on my cube neighbors that pound their keys like they're attempting to push them through the desk.

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  3. making holes to help pain? by voisine · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't it be cheaper to visit the local
    acupuncturist?

  4. Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    More technology to relieve the ravages of another technology... This is what modern Western culture is good at; creating problems and then trying to solve them.

    Why not getting a different type of work? How about working less?

    1. Re:Wow. by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, I don't know about you, AC, but I'm not particularly interested in pushing paper or digging in the dirt for a living.

      If you're so against technology being used to solve problems, then I think you need to give up your modern conveniences, medicine and other services, otherwise you might be considered a hypocrite.

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  5. Cold Laser?! by TRACK-YOUR-POSITION · · Score: 2

    ICE BEAM!!!!!! yeah, that's right, after reading this post, you will now associate marvel vs. capcom (specifically Ice Man) with Carpel Tunnel Treatment (cold laser)! OPTIC BLAST!

  6. How does this help? by Sgt+York · · Score: 1

    Inflammation is a result of an immune response in an area. "White blood cells" normally refers to immune cells (T's, B's, PMN's). So how does recruiting MORE inflammatory cells to an already inflammed area help anybody?

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  7. Fighting Carpal Tunnel Through Information by Gwyndolyn · · Score: 1

    It is also important to note that patients recieve treatment as well as councelling regarding "posture and stress-reducing relaxation techniques" This knowledge may be as important if not more so in treating workers with this disorder.

    With the millions of dollars spend each year on worker's compensation claims, a mere $45/visit seems a blessing to insurance companies everywhere. Hopefully this is a treatment that works over the long-run.

  8. theory behind treatment by !splut · · Score: 3, Informative

    Mabye my immunobio knowledge isn't up to snuff, but I don't see how recruiting white blood cells to the site of an inflammation response would help to reduce swelling and pain. White blood cells ought to end up at sites of inflammation anyway.

    Local6.com not being helpful in the explanation department, I checked out http://www.coldlaser.com/, only to learn the following:

    "Certain wavelengths of light have the ability to penetrate high-water content material such as animal tissue. This penetration allows the process of photobiostimulation on animal cells is similar to photosynthesis in plant cells whereby light sets in motion a chain of chemical reactions. In human tissue the resulting photochemical reaction produces an increase in the cellular metabolism rate which expedites cell repair and the stimulation of several systems: the immune, lymphatic and vascular."
    (http://www.coldlaser.com/services.html)

    Which strikes me as silly and poorly understood. On the other hand, the treatment only costs $45, is covered by insurance, and also involves patients "learning proper posture and stress-reducing relaxation techniques," which we know from years of clinival use to be helpful, so, hey, whatever. If Dr. Smith enjoys shining lasers into his patients' wrists, power to him.

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    1. Re:theory behind treatment by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      It seems to me the only mechanism involved might be merely the beneficial effects of heating tissue! I bought a paraffin bath for my father to use on his arthritic hands; after a few minutes of use he can then move his hands without pain for a few hours.

    2. Re:theory behind treatment by mr_teem · · Score: 2, Insightful

      White blood cells ought to end up at sites of inflammation anyway.

      External inflammation treatments are designed to get more white blood cells to the location to speed their effect. In that sense, the cold laser treatment would work for inflammation. So would ice and heat. So would ultrasound. (I've used all of these.) Maybe the cold laser is more efficient in luring white
      blood cells because it could localizes the effect.

      Patients are said to notice a difference in 3-5 visits. Well, so did I with icing myself for a couple of weeks. Since I apparently have my cynical cap on today, this "report" strikes me as a thinly-disguised advertisement offering chiropractic treatment for carpal tunnel sufferers. Not that that's bad--I see one today but for very well-defined reasons. But I'm not going to pay--or have my insurance company pay--for him to point a laser at my wrist when an ice pack will do for the pain. (But, as always, one's mileage may vary.)

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  9. Painful Memories... by greenhide · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the spring of 2000, I started to develop what I believe was the beginnings of CTS in my left wrist. It was bad, too--there were some times when I had to lie in bed, cradling my arm because of the pain.

    What I found extremely useful was physical therapy. My physical therapist manipulated my shoulder, which was tensed up and pinching the nerve that ran down my arm. He also provided helpful exercises for strengthening and stretching my arms and back, which was responsible for my bad posture. Really, he ran the gamut -- exercises, forced stretches, massage, electronic accupuncture, etc.

    Since then, I have had occasional tingling in my arm, but no more pain.

    If cold lasers work, that's great, but much of the work in my case had to be done in my shoulder, back, and posture. Without the manipulations on my shoulder and helpful advice of exercising, I probably would have reverted back if my treatments had been local to my wrist.

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  10. Cold Laser??? by cachorro · · Score: 1

    Better keep that cold laser out of the wrong hands.

  11. tai chi by slevin · · Score: 1

    Myself and several other people have had bad CTS that just got better and stayed better after picking up tai chi. It is good for the body, good for the mind, and good for the soul. Mix in the prospects of becomming a kung fu master and you really have a can't lose situation.

    1. Re:tai chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good for mind, body, and soul, eh? Sounds like a tea commercial. Of course I think stoking up a nice bowl of cannabis is good for your mind, body, and soul too.

  12. Physical conditioning and posture are best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The thing that helped me the best was taking up raquetball and working out. It took about 3-6 months for symptons to clear up.

  13. Or you could solve the actual problem... by beatbox · · Score: 1
    If you're having chronic pain problems of any kind that won't go away even after physical therapy, and after doctors start saying "well... you should be better by now but you're not... so.... try more physical therapy!", then try reading this book.

    The Mindbody Prescription: Healing the Body, Healing the Pain by Dr. John Sarno.

    This worked wonders for me, for my friend who pointed me towards it, and for 3 or 4 other people I've sent copies to.

  14. hoakiness vs. unknowns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I think that the self-labled "scientific community" has done so much to harm real advancement in the understanding and practical application of things that could be the equivelent of pasteurizing and anisceptic methods. I say self-labled because I doubt the scientific professionalism of anyone who lets personal ego get in the way of the proper application of logic and reason coupled to scientific methods in order to grow the knowledge base of any subject. When people get all upset and begin the patronizing statements relegating anything they can't understand to witchmedicine or any other BS, their reactions are anything but scientific. After all, radiation was once thought of as evil spirits, or punishment from living a bad life. The scientists of those days (not called that of course), chose not to look behind the curtain of superstition but rather throw up one of their own filled with condescension and ego. It took real scientific minded people to unearth the relevant facts that give us much of the knowledge we have today about particle and EM radiation.

    I can't explain many of the odd mystical sounding things that seem to work for so many. However, I understand that even where it not for the oddness that is Quantum mechanics, there is a factor of unknowns that should be embraced before jumping up and yelling 'simpleton.' Perhaps it is a primal fear covered up in buzz words and condescension... who knows. I would really like to see the medical community begin to do serious research into these phenomina. Even if it is all found to be mental, that in itself is a great tool they should learn to use. Get rid of your ego and your irrational fear and start being scientific.