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Software Solution to DVD RPC2 Region Locking?

Martin writes "I just saw the DVD Region-Free utility, the other day. 'It allows you to watch all region DVDs on any DVD drive (especially RPC2) even if it has been locked. You don't need hack DVD drive (flash firmware) which is sometimes dangerous, useless or unavailable.' This seems really significant to me, yet I haven't heard anything about! Is this the first software based solution to RPC2?" Of course, it should be stated that the software mentioned above is for Windows only. Are there other similar pieces of software for other platforms?

45 comments

  1. Re:Ask Slashdot by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 2, Informative
    If it was up to a Slashbot CUNT, we'd be all watching Open Sources Bollywood shit. Worthless entertainment from a worthless culture.

    I know you're a troll, but I'd like to nevertheless point out that it's 'Baliwood,' and they make more movies over in India than we do here.

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  2. Re:Ask Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    And there's more wasted fucking open sores projects on Freshmeat than there are quality pieces of software from real programmers.

    Quantity does NOT equal Quality, you child molestor.

  3. Re:Ask Slashdot by seann · · Score: 0

    I hate to burst bubbles
    but keep up with the times
    "bollywood/hollywood" is a movie

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  4. Eff you. by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If I buy a Japanese DVD, and find I can't play it on my machine, and I try a utility like this one to be able to watch something I purchased, am I stealing? Some movie companies think so. I strongly disagree with them. What about you?

    1. Re:Eff you. by seann · · Score: 0

      yes...

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    2. Re:Eff you. by arcadum · · Score: 0

      We should never have stopped at Hiroshima.

      Hiroshima was the begging, NAGASAKI is where we stopped.

  5. Re:Ask Slashdot by maunleon · · Score: 0

    It is actually Bollywood, not Baliwood. See google.

    Bali is in indonesia. I thought everybody who even turned on the news lately would know that.

  6. Re:Ask Slashdot by wotevah · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Apparently Australian and New Zealand legislation already makes it illegal for companies to restrict the parallel importation of their products, and the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission is poised to take action against DVD regionalisation. So if other places, including Europe, follow the lead, Steve Ballmer could find himself threatening to stop selling Xbox virtually everywhere...
    ( Quoted from: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/27790.html )
  7. Re:Ask Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Alas, my comic irony is lost on everyone. Actually one poster who accused me of being a child molester and said that quality != quantity almost understood what I was saying.

    I was joking at the troll parent by being silly (I wonder how many factually incorrect people try and use this as an excuse). Ballywood makes crappy movies.

  8. To the retards who think this is stealing... by AntipodesTroll · · Score: 5, Insightful

    RPC encoding has *Nothing* to do with piracy. Its about enforcing market manipulation and price-fixing.

    Disabling RPC is all about being able to play a disc you bought legally in a different region, on your own player. Such as me being able to visit the US and play a new R1 DVD I have bought, on my laptop, on the way home. Which according to the movie mafia, should only play R4 discs.

    Anyone with a brain knows that a home-made pirated disc (as opposed to a lot of the mass-pirated stamped discs out of asia) wont even have a region code on it, and the region lock wont matter a bit. As for the mass-pirates in asia, I dont want that crap. I am paying store prices, so I demand the genuine article. Most mass-pirated discs arent dual-layer anyway, AFAIK.

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  9. stealing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IANAL, but stealing means taking someone's property without paying for it or otherwise obtaining their permission. It seems to me that you bought it, so it cannot be stealing. Now, the question is, once you buy something and it is your personal property, do you have to right to do whatever you want with it. In general, the answer is yes, as long as you don't break another law in so doing. I don't know whether breaking region encoding violates DMCA or other laws. If it does, then you are breaking a law, albeit a stupid law. Does anyone know what DMCA says about region encoding?

  10. In the spirit of the last post by arcadum · · Score: 0
    For those too busy to look...

    THIS IS NOTHING NEW

  11. For Macs... by Analog+Penguin · · Score: 4, Informative

    Region-Free Firmware. They also have tools for changing regions on another page.

  12. I'm so freakin' tired of saying this... by shepd · · Score: 1

    Breaking one random law does not mean you are a theif.
    If you break the DMCA, you are in violation of the DMCA.
    If you break copyright, you are in violation of copyright.
    You are not stealing until the law/dictionary say so.

    Neither say using something you bought in any way whatsoever (wether it is illegal or not) is stealing, unless you are committing fraud, which the DMCA, AFAIK, isn't all about.

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  13. Misinformation by AirLace · · Score: 0, Troll

    Rubbish. I've decided to give up modding of this thread to make this reply. A (-1, Overrated) wouldn't do this post justice. What you're saying is pure misinformation.

    You think that some unspoken law gives you the right to ignore the contract you made with the DVD distributor when you purchased it? Fair trade applies to firms, not to individuals. If you've agreed to buy that DVD, you've almost certainly done so on their terms, which state that you're only allowed to watch it in your region. It's a contract, and you have to follow it down to the word.

    If you're having difficulty understanding this, think of software licensing. The GPL says you have to release the sources of your program if you link to a GPL'd binary -- there's no law that states it, but it's part of a legally binding contract. Similarly, Microsoft licenses that say you're not allowed to release benchmarks of their products, no matter how ludicrous, are legally binding.

    Like it or not, disabling RPC has *everything* to do with breaking the law, until you manage to change the law or the contract you entered.

    1. Re:Misinformation by cheezehead · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's a contract, and you have to follow it down to the word.

      In my household, my 5-year old son buys all the DVDs (he gets a big allowance). AFAIK, he cannot legally enter into a contract agreement. He generously allows his parents to watch his DVDs.

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    2. Re:Misinformation by AntipodesTroll · · Score: 3, Informative

      No misinformation. You're just making assumptions about law.

      First, I am Australian. The DMCA dosent apply to me when I am at home, regardless of wether I imported or bought an R1 disc home with me. When I am in the USA, according to your theory it is perfectly acceptable for me to play an R1 disc in my laptop, while I am in the United States.

      If I region-hack my dvd player in Australia, I havent broken US law. If I play US discs in the USA, I havent broken any law or agreement, and if I play a R1 disc at home, I havent broken any Australian law, and it is a big leap of faith to assume the shrinkwrap contract applies at all. And if my player just happens to adhere to RPC1 instead of RPC2 when I travel to the USA, that is a simple technicality. (I dont think DVD bogo-licences yet state that PRC1 players break the licence, do they?) As to how well the shrinkwrap "We just assume our bogo-licence applies everywhere" restrictions apply, that is for courts to decide.

      Its people like you who simply assume that onerous shrinkwrap licencing should apply as law, globally, without it being tested by a court, that ruin it for the rest of us by giving mass support to the corporations who want to take away our rights.

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    3. Re:Misinformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I region-hack my dvd player in Australia, I havent broken US law.

      No, but you have violated a contract that's legally binding (i.e., that has the force of law over its signatory parties) in Australia. You aren't committing a crime, per se, but you could be sued for breach of contract.

      it is a big leap of faith to assume the shrinkwrap contract applies at all

      Wrong. A contract is binding, no matter what the terms or circumstances, until a court says it isn't. You did enter into a contract, and you are in breach of that contract. If your violation of the contract ends up in front of a court, the court may choose to declare that the contract itself is invalid, and therefore unenforceable. But until that happens, the contract is binding.

      Its people like you who simply assume that onerous shrinkwrap licencing should apply as law....

      Contracts do apply as law. This is a fundamental tenet of contract law, shared by all countries that base their civil courts system on the English tradition of equity law. That includes, obviously, the UK, its former holdings, Commonwealth countries, the EU, and the United States, as well as most of the rest of the world. Essentially only Shari'a countries broadly reject this basic legal premise.

      And, in case you were wondering, as a matter of fact I am a lawyer.

    4. Re:Misinformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, that is pretty much true. On the otherhand, there are some points you are missing.

      1) Since he is a kid, technically no one has to sell him a DVD.

      2) While he can not be held to the contract, you probably could. This is because first of all, he is only 5 and you are giving him the money. So you are argeeing to let him buy the DVDs and therefor you could probably be held to the contract.

      3) Prove that your son bought the DVDs and not you. Afteral, he is only 5. Do you really think he would have purchased them, or are you lying? Seems to me you are lying. And any jury would think so too. So if it was in court, you commited purgery.

    5. Re:Misinformation by cheezehead · · Score: 1

      All reasonable points. I was being a little facetious. However, substitute "5-year old" with "16-year old", and you may see the point that there may be some legal problems with enforcing the contract.

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    6. Re:Misinformation by WeaponOfChoice · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, but you have violated a contract that's legally binding (i.e., that has the force of law over its signatory parties) in Australia. You aren't committing a crime, per se, but you could be sued for breach of contract.

      Honest Curiosity:
      Australia has legislation to specifically prohibit corporations from attempting to control the import or use of their products from other locales outside Aus. Surely the contract itself would be illegal (and unenforcable) by Australian law. IANAL but I would have thought it was very wasteful to have to challenge an illegal contract in court to render it non-binding (or to use the inverse I don't like the implication that I could be held in breach of an illegal contract simply because I lack the legal muscle or money to force a challenge.)

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    7. Re:Misinformation by Insanity · · Score: 1

      "You think that some unspoken law gives you the right to ignore the contract you made with the DVD distributor when you purchased it?"

      Back up for a second. I just purchased a DVD. I opened the shrinkwrap, put the disc in my dvd drive, and watched the movie. At no point did I sign a contract. At no point did I even get a clickthrough license agreement of questionable legal validity.

      I purchased a product. It is a shiny plastic disc in a box. This purchase was no different from purchasing a box of fruit.

      There are laws that govern my use of that fruit. I can't distill alcohol from it. I can't throw it at some random passer-by.

      My use of the dvd is governed by certain laws as well, but I signed no contracts that in any way supersede those. I can't make a copy of it and sell it for profit, and I can't distribute copies of it to other people, because there are laws that say so. If I lived in the USA, I couldn't legally defeat region coding, macrovision, or CSS. In some places, the laws that govern my use of that disc don't make those restrictions.

      It's all about the laws in the country. There are absolutely no contracts, signed or implicitly agreed to, in the purchase of a dvd.

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    8. Re:Misinformation by Phaid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're wrong about this. When a consumer buys a DVD disc, they do not enter into a contract with the manufacturer or distributor or retailer which prohibits them from disabling region coding on their player. There is nothing on DVD packaging which says anything about it, and the consumer is never notified that such a restriction exists. It is by definition impossible to enter into a contract that you are not aware of.

      Your blurb about software licencing is off the mark. When you buy a Microsoft software package, you are told that opening the shrink-wrap constitutes acceptance of the licence inside. There is nothing of the kind on DVD media packages.

      Manufacturers of DVD drives and DVD players are under contract with the DVD consortium which gives the manufacturer the right to produce DVD player devices but which requires them to produce only region-locked devices. Manufacturers of DVD media are under contract with content owners to produce DVDs of this content, and that contract usually includes a provision requiring the disc to be region locked. The consumer is under no contract at all.

      Copying a DVD is a violation of copyright laws. Decrypting a DVD with an unlicenced DVD player is a violation of the DMCA in the US and equivalent laws in some other countries. But disabling region codes on your DVD playback device in order to otherwise legally play a DVD disc is perfectly legal.

    9. Re:Misinformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I enjoyed your troll very much. By your low userid, I can see that you have been doing this for a very long time. Someday I hope to write a comment that is even half the troll that your was. I truly hope you make +5.

    10. Re:Misinformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bollocks.
      Where is the meeting of minds, negotiation etc? When am I informed of the details of this contract? Fuckwit.

    11. Re:Misinformation by belroth · · Score: 2
      It's all about the laws in the country. There are absolutely no contracts, signed or implicitly agreed to, in the purchase of a dvd.
      Even if there were a contract in most countries this cannot override the law of the land.
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    12. Re:Misinformation by HuskyDog · · Score: 1
      Question 1 - If party A wishes to enter into a contract with party B are they required to show party B the terms of the contract first?

      Question 2 - When one purchases a DVD is one shown any contract terms (apolgies, but I have never bought one)?

      Question 3 - If some "none-signature" action constitutes acceptance of a contract (e.g. opening shrink wrapping) why have several US states found it necessary to introduce legislation such as UCITA which specifically enables such contracts?

      Question 4 (only applies if answer to Q1 is "No") - What stops me from applying my own contract to the supplier without their knowledge or concent (e.g. every time that I tell someone how great your movie is, you owe me $1000). I presume the answer to this one is that, like so many laws, it only applies when rich corporations are trying to screw over poor consumers?

      Since you are a lawyer, I look forward to your well informed answers.

    13. Re:Misinformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      3) Prove that your son bought the DVDs and not you. Afteral, he is only 5. Do you really think he would have purchased them, or are you lying? Seems to me you are lying. And any jury would think so too. So if it was in court, you commited purgery.

      You stole my $50 million, and I'm going to sue you for everything you own, everything your family owns (because it was obviously bought with my money), and I'm going to see you and all your relatives either mopping floors or stamping license plates in jail until I get my $50 million back out of you. Prove me wrong. It'll be hard since any jury will assume you and anyone you bring to speak on your behalf will be lying to protect you. You're going to jail, lying sicko, unless you come up with my money.

    14. Re:Misinformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      And, in case you were wondering, as a matter of fact I am a lawyer.
      It shows. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

      I bet you made your parents sign contracts restricting them from collecting interest from you before you took your lunch money from them.
  14. I could be wrong on this, but.. by omega9 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I find it interesting that they've chosen to display the "Designed for" logo on their product page. IIRC, that logo is used as somewhat of a certification. IE. you're only granted use of that logo after you pass certain requirements from Microsoft.

    I'd find it hard to believe they actually have official support from Microsoft for a DVD region hack utility.

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    1. Re:I could be wrong on this, but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's doubtful that they're actually approved to use the logo. They aren't listed in the product catelog at MS and it's doubtful a small time operation like that would pony up the cash for doing it. While someone pointed out that the requirements are openly distributed, you still have to pay MS for the certification and to even submit something, you need a class 3 code cert from Verisign for a couple hundred bucks.

  15. Who cares about regions.... by sICE · · Score: 1

    .... since it's a software based solution! yet another post TASPTDEE ("there's a problem that dont even exists!").

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  16. Linux/BSD style port by rjw57 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well of course anything which used libdvdcss under *nix already gets RPC2-agnostic CSS software-decoding. I, personally, have never set the region-code on my one-year-old drive and watch films quite happily using the wonderful players available.

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  17. You are wrong on this by MadMirko · · Score: 4, Informative

    The "designed for" logo does not mean that Microsoft supports a given product. The logo is given to software (or hardware) that meets certain requirements which are freely available.

    In short software needs to fulfill requirements in Windows compatibility (Multi-Tasking, Fast User Switiching, etc), Installation / Removal Requirements (use Windows Installer, the Windows packet manager), Data and Settings Management (stores application relevant data in the registry and so forth)

    For those to lazy to read through the documents, here a short summary (for the designed for WinXP logo):

    1. The software does run on Windows (I'm not kidding).
    2. It does not kill your OS, or your data (at least not as a "primary function")
    3. Any kernel mode drivers must pass a compatibility testing (e.g. not cause blue screens)
    4. Any device drivers must pass the HCT (Hardware Compatibily Test)
    5. Perform Windows version checking
    6. Support Fast User Switching and Remote Desktop
    7. Support Multi-Tasking and not prevent Multi-Tasking
    8. Use proper mechanism to add/replace dlls
    9. Allow migration to newer versions of Windows
    10. Doesn't replace other dlls with older versions
    11. Do not require a reboot inappropriately (only required when installing a Windows Service Pack or a GINA)
    12. Install in the proper folder by default
    13. Install any file that is not fit for side-by-side execution in proper locations
    14. Support "Add / Remove Programs" controll panel
    15. Support Single User / Multi User installs
    16. Support Autorun on DVDs or CDs
    17. Store configuration data in the registry and user created data in a proper location
    18. Support running with limited credentials (do not require admin privileges unneccessarily)
    19. Handle missing rights gracefully (don't crash)

  18. Bah by Phaid · · Score: 2

    Personally I prefer just going to one of the DVD firmware and utilities site, like The Firmware Page, and looking up which models of DVD drives can be painlessly modified to be region-free. I did this when I decided to upgrade to a new DVD drive; I bought a LiteOn LTR-163D 16X dvd drive with RPC-2, ran a DOS RPC-1 utility which safely disables RPC-2 without reflashing the drive, and everything works.

    You don't really have to do this: as someone posted above, if you use a libdvdcss-based player, you can set the DVDCSS_METHOD environment variable to "title" and libdvdcss will usually be able to read the disc anyway. This isn't guaranteed to work, however, so I decided to disable RPC altogether in the drive.

    In any case, with a little research you can do all of this for free, which beats giving money to some company that's profiting off of an already bad system.

  19. DMCA and region coding by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    The DMCA doesn't say anything about region coding. It would be up to the court to decide whether it is a mechanism to protect the rights of a copyright holder.

    It's kind of vague on whether it applies to mechanisms that prohibit use that is legitimately granted under fair use. It's quite likely that the court would decide that the law only applies to technological measures that prevent illegal use. In the case of DeCSS, the MPAA did actually make the case that it can be used for illegal purposes.

  20. MPlayer by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 2

    I seem to recall that MPlayer uses software for decryption and is unaffected by region coding. At least, there have been one or two mail threads on the mailing list from people commenting that they haven't had to change the region on their drives but mplayer plays disks from other regions anyway, and wondering how it accomplishes it...

  21. Yamakawa players by Animats · · Score: 2

    I've been very impressed with the Yamakawa 218, one of the lowest-priced players around. I paid US$79 at Fry's. Reads DVD, VCD, SVCD, miniDVD, MP3 on CD, and CD audio disks. (Very few standalone DVD players will play miniDVD, which is about 15 minutes of DVD format on CD media. This one will. I authored a miniDVD, with Premiere and DVDit, and it played fine, menus and all. Convenient for demo reels and previewing work.) Converts NTSC to PAL and vice versa. All the usual stuff: 5-channel audio, S-video, digital out, etc. Press Setup/Mute/Stop/Zoom for "all regions".

  22. It is stealing, but not from who you think... by Domini · · Score: 2

    It's not the production house, or the DVD manufacturers that you are stealing from, but from your local movie houses that are denied the oportunity to have first showings of the film.

    Saying this, I do however agree that region locking is not the way to do it... I have bought films like "Tron" that are RPC1 (I am in RPC2) even though this film is ancient. (Disney maintains the right to re-release it on cinema or something? Pha!)

    For instance, there is the problem that some of my favorite movies are plainly just not available locally! What to do? Do I import the from amazon.co.uk rather at about 2 times the price of the already ludicrously high $ rate?

    It's no win for me otherwise... thank god for non region-locked DVD players!

    RPC coding was the biggest reason for me to rip to DivX initially, so that I would be ensured to be able to play my movies with future DVD players.

    My 2 cents.
    Me.

  23. Linux CSS implementation by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2

    I remember a while ago, someone mentioning that the Linux libdvdcss implementations have three modes.

    The first two are "normal" and require the hardware to cooperate.

    The last mode brute-forces the key by using a known-plaintext attack - Most DVDs start with a small amount of black screen, which encodes predictably with MPEG2. From this, it's possible to bruteforce the key. (I could be wrong about the basic details, it's something I remember from a /. post)

    In short, any Linux player capable of playing encrypted DVDs should have no problem with region coding. It might take a bit longer if your drive doesn't cooperate, but you should be able to play the discs.

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  24. Use DVD Genie instead by Arthur+Dent · · Score: 2, Informative
    This stuff is too expensive. C'mon $40 for setting a registry key?

    Save your wallet and use DVD Genie instead.

    1. Re:Use DVD Genie instead by frankosee · · Score: 1

      DVD Genie can't make DVD drive region free!
      I have an Advent 6413b laptop which has a region locked Matshita UJDA710 DVD player, DVD Genie can help me, but I'm region freeeeee now with the help of DVD Region-Free.