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ps asks: "In light of our recent discussions, does anyone know of an IPv6 capable ISP? DSL, cable, dialup even? Googling for this only shows one ISP in Japan that has IPv6."
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Google: ipv6 isp
I'm suprised. Not much there.
A speech...
For those of you about to ask why anyone would care about IPv6... well, we've all heard the answers, mostly larger address space (sounds surprisingly familiar to the 32-bit / 64-bit bickering we hear). If you're really interested, though, and want to see why it matters to you as a developer or IT person, I think IPv6 Essentials is a good, though not great, read. Developers will be disappointed but educated; sysadmins will be pleased and educated.
I've had this sig for three days.
It's true! Haven't you ever heard of "6bone"?
By which I mean, with all the tools including the slightly less common ones e.g. traceroute, ping nslookup etc. etc.
Anyone?
-WolfWithoutAClause
"Gravity is only a theory, not a fact!"I think currently there are only tunnel brokers who have a good eye on the IPv6 implementation for use by the general public. You may find that some of them do IPv6 native dialup, which is what the one i help run is considering providing.
Most ISPs will allow you to use gif tunneliing, or another form of tunneling so you can have tunneled ipv6 access via a tunnel broker, but beware, if your ISP bans vpns, they may take this as a vpn also (totally out of context) and stop all traffic.
Someone else on this story mentioned Oreillys IPv6 Essentials, which i also recommend. Its ISBN number is: 0-596-00125-8. It covers all you need to know, and more, so by the time you start actually using ipv6 rather than jsut running it alongside ipv4 on your lan, it works a treat.
Disclaimer: I help run ipng.org.uk, a UK ipv6 tunnel broker.
After the last /. article, I took it upon myself to learn more about IPv6 and maybe possibly start using it inside my private network. Well, what I found out was that I could use it on the *public* network, with hardly any hassle at all.
There's this really great feature in IPv6 that lets everyone with a (publicly routable) IPv4 address get 2^80 IPv6 addresses. Your IPv6 network is 2002:xxxx:yyyy::/48, where xxxxyyyy is the hex equivalent of your IPv4 address.
It's a system called "6to4" and basically involves the OS encapsulating all IPv6 packets into IPv4 and sending them through a tunnel to the "anycast" IPv4 address 192.88.99.1. This IP address is not that of one individual computer, but rather, the closest router actually on an IPv6 network. This router will then unencapsulate your packet and send it off into IPv6-land. Because your IPv4 address is embedded into the IPv6 address, every router on the IPv4 network knows how to reach you, given an IPv6 packet destined for your address, so you aren't tied to a particular tunnel endpoint like you are in some other schemes.
The best part about this is how easy it is to enable in OSX. Assuming you aren't behind NAT, to enable IPv6, just type:
sudo ip6config start-v6 en0; sudo ip6config start-stf en0
Of course replace en0 with whichever device you're using (en1 probably if you're using airport). All done! Now try something like "ping6 debian.ipv6.lcs.mit.edu" to make sure it's working. There's also traceroute6, and telnet works as well.
Unfortunately, ssh for OSX doesn't appear to be compiled for IPv6 yet. If it were, "ssh -6 host" should work. Also unfortunately, none of the browsers I've tried can resolve IPv6 DNS for some reason. However, at least Safari does work with explicit IP addresses, so http://[3ffe:501:4819:2000:210:f3ff:fe03:4d0]/ will work.
Have fun.
Like other ISPs using Cisco gear at the core, I definitely can't roll out IPv6 support until this matures, which will take a few years on Cisco's release schedule. I'd expect to see much more IPv6 availability then.
Aaron
What is Jupiner?
IPv6 is NOT experimental. Maybe in Linux, but the fact that its in STABLE in FreeBSD means it is NOT experimental.
Windows XP its experimental, until Windows XP SP1 where it is now officially supported by Microsoft and is no longer experimental or a developer feature.
Get your facts straight, bub.
And yes, i use FreeBSD too.
D.
You can tell how powerful someone is by the magnitude of the crime they can commit and be able to get away with.
Actually FreeBSD is my OS of choice... i run FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE, 5.0-RELEASE, and also run about 10 or more other FreeBSD boxes for various friends, servers, and other stuff and what not.
So don't make stupid assumptions.
And FreeBSD has included IPv6 as standard since 4.0. I wonder why...
D.
You can tell how powerful someone is by the magnitude of the crime they can commit and be able to get away with.
IPv6 is the wave of the future.
I thought that IPv6 standard isn't fully complete yet. What I've heard is that there is something going on with mobile IP that isn't decided yet. Anyone has any information about this?
You don't know what you don't know.
Use http://www.freenet6.net to get yourself a free tunneling link to the 6bone. They'll also give you a /48 subnet if you tweak a few bits. ;-)
Plenty of clients available too. In Debian, simply apt-get it from your closest mirror
You don't even know what Juniper is, and you are talking shit about IPv6. You are the fool here, ass. Espousing about IPv6 and not knowing about Juniper. HAHAHAHA.
The crux of Internet2 and IPv6 is stemming largely from the efforts of Juniper, www.juniper.net, the makers of the world's finest routers.
Loser. And Juniper's "IOS", JunOS, is based on FreeBSD. What a little bitty kiddie you are.
in austria you can use ATnet who seem to offer IPv6 since 1999. Their homepage is ath tml
http://www.atnet.at/produkte/internetzugang/ipv6.
I'm using it here for some months.
There seem to be very few ISP's. Although I'd loved to see a large and quick take-up, the change-over will probably take many years and probably a decade or decades. There is a good concise article summarising the advantages of IPv6, Understanding IPv6 from PC Network Advisor [PDF], which I think every1 should read. The Google cache has a HTML version .
Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley
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OK, I use these guys. I'm happy with them but obviously biased.
Check their NG archive : here and see what you can find.
In summary, not only will AAISP happily set you up with a v6 alloc (being a RIR) but they and their users are getting quite clued up on IPv6. AAISP's bias is towards Linux, so you may be happy in their company.
Their v6 is tunneled to your site, because of limitations in the BT backhaul (a ATM cloud owned by our local monopoly) but this may change with SDSL + local exchange unbundling within the next 12 months.
Of course, one's often quite limited in delivering v6 direct to hosts on your own net' party due to IOS inconsistencies (and I'm not certain Cisco or anyone else has complete v6 across their products) - but these NEC v4+v6 router - switches look very attractive IMO.
Just some idle random thoughts, but I'd rate Andrews and Arnold as a "IPv6 Friendly" ISP. There are many other was to get yourself an allocation and tunnelling to peers or the 6bone however.
At this time our networks does not support IPV6. We have discussed doing this in the future however nothing is in place.
I suppose that Speakeasy is at least talking about it is a start.
This sig no verb.
I contacted the technical support departments for Telus(ADSL) and Shaw(cable) with regards to their support for IPv6. Telus and Shaw are the two major broadband providers in the province of British Columbia, Canada.
Here are the results:
- Telus: Technical support rep. actually knew what IPv6 was and said that I was the first person to ever ask him that question. His response (after talking to supervisors) was: "Telus will deploy IPv6 within two years".
- Shaw: Technical support rep. did not know what I was talking about, escalated me to second level support, who then put me on hold for a while. Their response: not supported and there is no schedule to deploy IPv6. He said that Shaw "would do it when we start running out of IPs".
I didn't bother to contact any small ISPs in town.
Jupiler is a good belgian Beer I'm just consuming
(brought it from FOSDEM).
And IPv6 is also standard in OpenBSD and has been
for years.
My Karma isn't excellent, damn it! (And
At least, complete enough. Heck, the Internet as it stands does not use the complete IPv4 specification.
The important part is htis: There are many operating systems out there (and routers) that can talk ipv6 just fine, natively, and all communicate together, with no problems.
When you say "all the tools"... none of the tools you mentioned are part of ipv6.. they are just that, tools. Not a single one of them is required for ipv6 functionality.
Yes, we need more apps in ipv6.. but they won't come until more people get on ipv6. Hence the reason for asking for isps that support it natively.
You can even get this tunnel when you only have dialup/shell with them but a fixed IP on for instance a cable modem.
The best thing they did is making their binary newsserver newszilla available (read-only) for IPv6 users worldwide. This is the way to get people to try to get IPv6 working.
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Haha.. someone needs to see a doc about tourettes...
Woah, calm down, Mr. Tourette!
See http://aa.nu/ - on their ADSL service at least, you just check a box to get an IPv6 allocation alongside your IPv4 addresses.
Hurricane Electric, at he.net will give you IPv6 colocation if you like (not sure what kind of use you have for the connection). They also provide 4to6 tunnels.
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listen bitch. you dont run aything. i know you have seen the messiah, and he is FreeeBSD, but you are to faggoty and lame to have every operated that Unix.
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I know FreeBSD included ipv6, which you nothing about.
i supposed you like pinging: 3ffe:2500:321::1 instead of a normal ip or some shit, or whatever fucker. dude, ipv4 is enough for now, and puke motherfucker who cat nat or some shit "need" it
so what if you put up the i6 stack. no one cares. i have it running, BFD. you are a fag. the NSPs would use it anyway, not you the users. shit piss licker. you think eveyone needs to go out and set up v6 on consumer oses or something, fag?
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